Answering Allegations about Islam - !!! Come And Join Us !!!

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  1. mahmood

    mahmood Guest

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    #221
    Hey guys who oppose this muslim, do you know that according to muslims you are the enemy of God and any muslim in the world will be rewarded by God to:
    • Find you and destroy you
    • Click attack your adsense account
    • Hack you site, spam you email ...
    • Break your window and burn your car
    • ...

    Now are you going to pay the price of you ideas...?
     
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  2. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #222
    Do you know him?
     
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  3. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #223

    He's not a Muslim. He's just an agrumentative poser.
     
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  4. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #224
    Does anyone follow the situation of peaceful muslims in Dafur.
    They have annouced to start a jihad if international troops would move in. It's under control from arabic horsemen. France is pleading to move in without permission. They are right. These culprits are not supposed to rule.

    300000 to 400000 people are slaughtered in this country of only 6 million. From October onwards will be an additional problem, - starvation.

    Where the hell is the religion of peace? The culprit is islam and muslims.
    ALLLLLL!!! and with its real face. So Beware

    Because the world doesn't pay the attention needed means for islam that they can do what they want?


    Now, can you answer this???

    He is a muslim of the finest sort and works in the tactical department Butterworth to the border to Thailand.
     
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  5. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #225
    This has already been answered in the following Qur'anic verses:

    "And from among His Signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Prostrate not to the sun nor to the moon, but prostrate to Allah Who created them, if you (really) worship Him." (Qur'an 41:37)

    "They ask you (O Muhammad) about the new moons. Say: these are signs to mark fixed periods of time for mankind and for the pilgrimage." (Qur'an 2:189)

    And that is all to it.

    - MENJ

    This is a question which has a complicated answer and I am afraid that I have no real solution to the problems you have posed. Yes, I agree that there are Muslims who are upset with the United States, that is because of the current US administration's current foreign policies and its favouritism towards certain States in order to impose its own worldview and global domination upon the rest of the world. Blowing people up is not a common incidence in the Muslim world, it only happens in conflict areas such as the Middle East or Afghanistan where the US is almost always involved.

    It is already bad enough that this is happening, but it gets even worse when your media stereotypes us Muslims and makes us out as though we are terrorists and that we are, ipso facto, violent.

    - MENJ

    These sites has already been refuted by here, here, here, here and here.

    - MENJ
     
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  6. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #226
    It's about the half moon and not new moon and has nothing to do with fixing time periods.

    As I said before: the quran is taken from bits and peaces of everything.
    You said it was even taken over from the ottomans, and I can't see a logo with a clock on it, it just doesn't work.
     
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  7. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    If you are referring to me, then I think you are talking from the hind leg of a donkey. I am not staying in Butterworth, and for another, it takes about 4 hours to travel from Butterworth to the border.

    - MENJ
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #228
    Can you answer this?
     
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  9. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #229
    It is the same thing.

    - MENJ

    I do not know what is going in Darfur and all the information I have about it is hearsay. Therefore I reserve comment until the time when I have sufficient information to actually comment about it.

    - MENJ
     
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  10. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #230
    You deny this genocide commited by muslims on non muslims? Ahaa!
    So, everyone is wrong about it.
    What sufficient info are you waiting for? - mission completed? no more infidels in that country?

    or perhaps you and your buddies are working out new excuses for to sidetrack reality.
     
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  11. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #231
    In other words. US bad, Terrorists Good. Terrorists only around because Bush around. No Terrorists, no hate for US until Bush, oh and that there Fox News.

    With each new post from you all I can think of is [SIZE=-1]neo-maxim-zoom-dweebie.

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    If the US is involved, I'm sure you will have plenty of negative comments on the subject. :rolleyes:
     
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  12. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #232
    That's what he is telling us between the lines all the time.

    - with donkeys, yes.
    Currently you have moved to Kuala Lumphur I know that too. Maybe it was to hot for you up north?
    Your buddy zarul has called you into this board.

    There was a strange concentration of malays to the border of Thailand just days before 12 bombs went off in Hat Yai and these guys were talking all the way long about freedom fighters in Thailand.
     
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  13. mahmood

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    #233
    How are people supposed to show you what is going on in dafur? If you like the news you say "here is the proof" and if you don't like you say it is jewish propaganda.

    Lets say I pay for your plane and all the expenses to go to Sudan and lets say you go there and come back here and confirm that muslims are killing non-muslim, what would be the point? Other muslim wouldn't accept you and would say you are an agant of Isreal trying to dirty Islam or would simply say "Not everybody calls themselves muslim is a muslim, death to America".

    You said everywhere in the muslim world that there is problem because there is a trace of America there, you gotta be kidding yourself. How about Saudi Arabia that women don't have the right to drive a car? How about Iran that women cannot ride a bicycle? How about Pakistan that Sunni and Shiaa kill each other for hundreds of years? Again how about Iran that muslims kill communists? How about Afghanistan that the law was about to execute that poor chiristian? You don't want to say USA ordered the Afghani police to arrest that man or do you?
    How about south of Iraq just before the eyes of British solders that Muslims are forcing women to vail?
    Why don't we talk about Korea? Why don't you compare south and north Korea? How about Germany? Which side was America?


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  14. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #234
    Translation: I know what's going on, but because I'm muslim, I cannot say anything bad about the brutalities going on there. However, if it were Christians slaying muslims there, it would not be hearsay and I would not reserve comment.

    That was the lamest islamic excuse I've ever seen, and I've seen a lot of islamic wussies try to weasel their way through some crap!
     
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    #235
    The guardian New is a much trusted source. :rolleyes:
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #236
    That's the easy way out, as two have taken it so far. However, the point of the source is that they went into detail and covered the verses from the quran/hadith. So to dismiss the source is to dismiss the scriptures as lies as well. That's easy enough for me, since I do not believe in islam, however, it's a bit more challenging for a muslim to note the scriptures are lies. But I'd welcome that ;)
     
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  18. Rebecca

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    #238
    Thanks for your response:)

    "This is a question which has a complicated answer and I am afraid that I have no real solution to the problems you have posed."
    ***I was just curious if you had any thoughts on that. Even the world leaders don't seem to have an answer to that.

    "Yes, I agree that there are Muslims who are upset with the United States, that is because of the current US administration's current foreign policies and its favouritism towards certain States in order to impose its own worldview and global domination upon the rest of the world."
    ***There is truth in what you are saying but it is not all black and white. We actually are not totally bent on global domination. For instance on the invasion of Iraq if we really were in to global domination we would simply keep Iraq for ourselves and make it a colony of the US. But we are going to turn it back over to the Iraqi people. We don't want Iraq. I think the majority of Americans are sorry they invaded to begin with. Bush said he was invading because he thinks they have weapons of mass destruction, no one knows for sure if he really believed that or not. What I do know though is America was in incredible pain after 911. The loss and pain of 911 was undescribable, and there was a feeling that someone is going to pay. With that sense of anger and pain we invaded Iraq. Why would we want to have some control over Muslim countries? Because they tell us how much they hate us and we are afraid. You have the leader of Iran saying that he wants to build nuclear arms and has said he wants to nuke Israel (US would probably be next). So, really we are not trying to control the world, but we are trying to protect our interests.
    "It is already bad enough that this is happening, but it gets even worse when your media stereotypes us Muslims and makes us out as though we are terrorists and that we are, ipso facto, violent."
    ***You are right.I am sure our media just feeds us the perspective that it wants to have. Just like yours does. We all live in our little box and think that the whole world is just like that little box. Thank you, very interesting to hear what someone else is thinking outside of my little box:)
     
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    From what I can tell this is WHY many muslims hate America - it has to do with supporting Israel. You can see how this has scared many liberals in the states into hating Israel themselves and furthering the college-ingrained hatred and abandonment of Israel.
     
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    #240
    Israel must be protected at all costs, its the pearl of the middleast, and the islamic states and attackers are the greedy crabs. Its already a democracy, unlike Iraq, why the heck are we not putting more into protecting its terrortories.
     
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