Feedback Infraction Happy mods - scare away good members

Greetings, DP

Ive been a member on here for a while now, i admit not as long as others. However i have noticed a lot of DP members who used to be every day DP surfers are no longer going onto DP. Ive accumulated over 18 friends who have been on DP, and so far 15 of them have left DP for only a few reasons:

Moderators are Infraction Happy
The amount of spam and middle east spam ( bad english spam )


In the past 12 hours i have got two infractions.

One for saying thank you, and another for having a thread in apparently the wrong area.

Come on, infractions are easy to give out - warnings are even better.

Dont try and scare your members off digitalpoint - Get them back.... Your only scaring people off by handing out infractions like a kid high on sugar handing out news papers.

I hope you see my point, because im sure a lot of other people are seeing friends on DP leave.

 

I've had 9 infractions at once, but guess what, I never got scared away I deserved it.

 

Yep, some are ban happy, and trigger happy, oh well they must show they got some power, it makes sites go down but you can't do nothing about it..

Who even owns this site?

 

The guy with the sites name as his username (duh) who just posted in this thread!

 

You can't just say or accuse that they're trigger happy or ban happy mods IMO not unless of course you're really making yourself a subject for the ban gun bullet!

Mods would always have the reason why members get banned - it might not be detailed or it might be, still everything that we do here in this forum has corresponding consequences may it be just a small infraction or THE ban.

 

I find this funny...

You're complaining about infraction-happy mods.
You're complaining about spam.

Thus, you don't want the mods to give infractions, and you don't want them to allow spam.

How would that work?

They've got to give out infractions to keep the place clean, and everyone rule-abiding.

Usually infractions are well deserved, but if you believe it isn't, contact a mod privately and get them to explain it to you.

 

I have to agree with the original poster. Particularly in the Buy/Sell/Trade section the moderators are way too prone to giving out warnings that are NOT necessary. Sure I have no problem with warning people who are blatantly defying the rules but it just seems as if the mods have nothing better to do all day than pick up on the tiniest little issues that are most likely an accident in the first place. I even remember the last time I posted a thread in this part of the forum about this issue, I got a negative rep and a smart ass comment which was obviously from a mod. It's a shame but I think a lot of them are stuck up, over step the line and take their authority on the board too seriously. It's also friggen annoying to get multiple warnings when the moderator is obviously bored. It's like they give you one infraction and then go back through your old posts to give you more out of spite. One possible alteration you should make: Put a time limit on warnings. If you didn't get one within 45-60 days of the post then you shouldn't ever get one unless it's a VERY serious breach. Putting the moderators name on the infraction might also help with accountability (at least with users of 100+ posts) and stop them hiding behind the cloak of anonymity.

 

How many infractions does it take to get temp banned or perma banned anyway? I been only part of DP for a little bit over a month and i got an infraction for a referral link and one for saying i signed up in a post. I don't think you'd scare away good members only but also members who just joined. Giving infractions for a post saying i signed up in responds to the topic starter does sound a little trigger happy to me.

 

You better believe that's what I do. Chances are if someone can't be bothered reading the rules or doesn't think they apply to them then they probably have a bunch of posts needing cleared up.

As for the spite part... no, not spite but it can be very annoying having to repeatedly move threads because someone couldn't be bothered finding the correct forum, deleting the duplicates because they think they're speshul and can make the same thread over and over again or they have posted 25x 'pm sent.'

10 points but different infractions have different point-levels and expiry times.

You wouldn't be saying that if you had to scroll through hundreds of 'interested' type posts in every thread. Trust me, before these rules were introduced, that's what was happening.

 

in addition the whole topic got deleted, don't you think a yellow infraction would be plenty of an warning to a fairy new member?

Is that yellow infraction given out anyway?

 

Not with affiliate links. If anything, new members shouldn't be doing stuff like that because they've read the rules.

Sometimes but not that often.

And remember, the red infraction IS only a warning... a gentle push for people to pay more attention to what they're doing and not repeat it.

 

Maybe infraction should be renamed warning?

 

While I don't disagree with OP I don't believe he understands the difficulty in running a forum of this size. It's extremely difficult to have proper policies that both stop spam and doesn't turn away members. It's just going to happen that some people will not like the rules or how they are applied.

DP does have a problem with being too popular with those in the middle east (India in particular) and it turns off a lot of westerners. Their English is often terrible and there is a cultural divide as well. My guess is that you and many of your buds have moved to sites where noobs from India trying to make $10 aren't as common. The level of good participation here is extremely low. But that's DP and you have to sort of accept it. It's just how the site has evolved. And don't take my statements as being anti-anything. I'm just expressing the truth. I really don't care who the members are here but I am observant.

 

Infraction happy ? I would not think so . I might even say that the forum is understaffed . I like to read the Google section of the forum and the amount of threads that make your eyes bleed is appalling .

I used to admin a 4000 member forum for a gaming community . We had about 500 new post per day . I've found out that the most effective method was to delete the idiot topic and give out 3 day bans . DP had indeed a problem whit the quality of the posts . And if the language problem is not addressed you might end up whit something horrid like viprasys(.)org .

Personally i would use the old stupidity test . A test of math , a test of English and the usual anti-spam check . My written English is not perfect by far , but using a automatic spell checker is just decent commonsense .

 

The marketplace is a very delicate area, it involves money, deals, transactions or any sort of monetary payments which is very serious matter that is why the mods should really be serious about it. Moderating a marketplace which involves money isn't a very easy job. I can't blame the mods if they get aggressive in there.

The least thing we would really want to experience is being scammed. If security was so simple like a security guard who's sleeping on the job then expect more people complaining how rubbish and how the marketplace is filled with scammers.

 

He is the Guy WHo Owns The Forum , The Cool One

And On to the Topic, I just have a Suggestion, Dont Give Infractions as a Bunch! And Show Mercy When they are at the brim!

Like, before 2 months, i had 6 Infractions, And on a day, i got 1 infraction..! and In 10 Mins, 3 More infractions

Thats not fair!! Once if you infract someone, dont search through all his post for the cause of giving him infraction! while you read among threads, and if you see something bad, Infract them! thats the way.!! Just a suggestion anyway!


~ExP~

 

Well that would be the point of giving infractions, you'll never know what post the members in DP are posting. If you have been infracted, you are a subject for investigation. That the way it is and will ever be and it is more easier to track crap/unwanted posts that way. Moderating a very huge community forum isn't as easy as saying ABC.

 

What isn't fair about it? There's no way we can read through every thread and honestly, who would want to?

 

I was referring to the infraction for saying i signed up, and then the whole topic got deleted but i still got an infraction for it.

I'm not to worried since 10 is alot of points to get i think.

Just a few post up i'm pretty sure an infraction was suppose to be a warning, digging up old posts with the only intention to give maximum infraction points is not a warning but simply looking for a way to get rid of the person.