Answering Allegations about Islam - !!! Come And Join Us !!!

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  1. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #121
    I think it was answered a number of times but incase you are not able to read ---- anyone who ISN'T a muslim = infidel
     
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  2. Postingpays

    Postingpays Well-Known Member

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    #122
    heathen: a person who does not acknowledge your god (source :: google)

    No, As Quran mentions this as well, Quran is NOT the word of Any Human. Its the word of Muhammad (PBUH) and its till the open challange by Quran that come with any verse made by you that can be better than Quran's ..

    For more info regarding Quran see the Public Dabate Between "Dr. Zaakir Naik" and "William Chambel" in which the Award winner William Chambel accepted that all the errors he made in the Quran was not as such and he agrees to many of the Bible contradictions and Errors.

    If you want that Debate contact me.

    Was there any Bible before Moses ?? a silly Q'n ...

    The rules are Just the rules depending on the situation of the Prophet that came ... A simple exapmle for you ::

    This was permitted to marry with the sister during the times of Prophet Adam (PBUH) why this is not in Christianity and Jewism ??

    This is based on time man but the words and belief of the God is same.

    There is No God but Allah alone

    Well, I don't think you still answered my questions and to which Q'n you are reffering ?? ...

    1. Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?
    • God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)
    • Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)

    2. In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?
    • Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
    • One million, one hundred thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

    3. How many fighting men were found in Judah?
    • Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
    • Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)
    4. God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?
    • Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
    • Three (I Chronicles 21:12)


    Answer these than I will move to some other topics as well. I will be there Inshallah to answer each of your Q'ns ...
     
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  3. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #123
    Welcome back 'muslim' but weren't you banned under the name 'muslim' for duplicate accounts?

    hmmm.... summer will have your hide LOL
     
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    Cyrus255 Well-Known Member

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    #124
    Stop encouraging postinpays, just ignore him. Muslims get bonus virgins in heaven for lying to infidels. Haha.

    Oh, how nice your "all you have to do to enter Mecca is say Mohammad is the messenger of God" wow, so you all you have to do is be a MUSLIM "one who has submitted" or get killed?

    Wow! How nice, you give us Kafirs a choice of convert or die! So nice!
     
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    #125
    He still wont answer my question, which is what this whole topic is about.
    And who cares if the word "provoke" in the contridiction hes refering to was incorrectly translated from hebrew. Its not like one word matters, if your intelligent you can still make sense of it, its not like it doesn't make sense if you think about it.
     
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  6. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #126
    We believe that Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, etc. were Muslims. There was no Qur'an then and the Prophet Muhammad was not born then.

    - MENJ
     
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    #127
    I would really like to see where in the Qur'an does it say that Muslims will get "bonus virgins in heaven for lying to infidels". What sura' and what ayaah does it say that?

    On the other hand, you should not be proud of yourselves when your Bible teaches that you should gangbang with Egyptian whores, and enlargen your one-eyed monster (I really shouldn't be describing this, since I am fasting, but you push me to it) which is as big as a donkey's and emissions as much as a horse's (Ezekiel 23).

    - MENJ
     
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    #128
    Infidels are "those who consciously reject the truth". Not all non-Muslims are infidels, and not all infidels are non-Muslims.

    - MENJ
     
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  9. debunked

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    #129
    I will have to assume that you got that from some muslim website trying and I mean trying to make the Bible say things it doesn't. Because if you read that passage you wouldn't have wrote what you did. What you wrote isn't at all close to what the passage says. Go read it for yourself, and not an edited version by a imam who hates Jews so much he will lie about what the Bible says, it is hard to rewrite something that so many people have a copy of.
     
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  10. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #130
    And there were no Muslims or Islam then either.:eek:
     
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  11. Ibn Juferi

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    #131
    I do my research about Christianity all by myself. The result is what you see in the sig.

    Oh I think we very well know what the passage says. See especially Ezekiel 23:20.

    - MENJ
     
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    #132
    Well we believe that they were Muslims, and that they adopted Tauhid...proto-Islam.

    - MENJ
     
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    #133
    You are trying to make the sins of 2 women that God despised as something other are to do?? I just don't understand how you get that? It is talking about sin and the consequences of it and how unclean they were and how the lifestyle led to dissatifaction and dismay.

    You are absolutely rediculous to say that God wants others to do the same. The bible has stories of sin throughout and the consequences thereof. All His prophets are IMPERFECT humans, that HE chose to use, that is why it is known that Jesus ISN'T just a prophet.

    Try again....
     
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  14. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #134


    Odd that history does not agree with you isn't it?
     
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  15. Ibn Juferi

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    #135
    So are you alleging that Adam, Abraham, the Patriaches, David, Solomon and all of the Prophets including Jesus (peace be upon them all) before Muhammad were polytheists? That would be an odd claim because as far as history tells me, it is in total agreement with that these great Prophets were monotheists, i.e. proto-Islam.

    But hey, you're free to say whatever you want.

    - MENJ
     
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    #136
    By describing the scene in such a lewd manner that I would be ashamed to even read the passage in public. Perhaps you can.

    Because I certainly won't.

    - MENJ
     
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    #137

    Interesting, since you just published in public with pride. You dwell on it and for some reason you just can't get away from it.

    So a couple of descriptions that seem lewd to you are what make you believe that the Word of God isn't?

    Who made men and women? Who made sex? then ask who sins?
    (hint: the first 2 answers are different than the 3rd)
     
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    #138
    So, you're an infidel now. Don't worry, Christians won't slaughter you ;)
     
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    #139
    Who ever said they were polytheists?

    (You sure get some weird info from your leaders and websites....)

    GOD is one - there is only one GOD and He is NOT the moon god allah because GOD is the only God so there is no moongod.
     
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    #140
    Sorry, was not even addressing you in the first place.

    Whoever said that I got "some weird info from your [my] leaders and websites...."?

    Oh yeah, that moon god polemic again. Its amazing how Robert Morey's lie could read even to the darkest corner of the WWW. You might however be pleased to note that this silly polemic was refuted not too long ago in a paper that I co-wrote with several others:

    http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/Allah/moongod.html

    Always glad to be at your service. No need to thank me :D

    - MENJ
     
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