Why is polygamy illegal?? Really...

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Lovage, Aug 14, 2010.

  1. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #61
    I can't think of a relationship of any type that worked over the long term where one party was truly dominant.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #62
    They have invented a new pill called Viagra, give it a try and may be you can deal with it. :D

    Define "work", with divorce rate at over 50% the monogamous marriage obviously doesn´t work either.
    Most relationship and marriage is in form of one dominant and one follower which can depend on the level of intelligence, education or income. To find a totally equal partnership is more of an exception than rule.
     
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    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    #63
    @Will. You didn't answer the question...and in fact avoided it. I suspect that means you have seen polygamous marriages(relationships) work wherein there is a dominant person and a subserviant person.

    That is my point.

    @GWorld. so what, I'm divorced...and its a good thing too. Oooooh that one would have been worse than WWII if there had been polygamy on top of that screwed up relationship. LOL.

    I didn't say "follower" I said subserviant. I perceive that as a substitive difference.

    BTW: As to legality questions and all the theory that is flying around...its all bs in my book.

    Its what I've experienced, and its what I've seen in so many other relationships.

    You want polygamy...go live in a land such as Saudi Arabia...a place that promotes a backwards perspective to mankind in general. In places such as that its as if the incredible human freedoms that the world has experienced over the last few 250 years or so never occurred.
     
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #64
    Absolutely agree, EarlPearl:)

    I thought you might like this story. Even women in Saudi Arabia sometimes fight back, as much as they are capable of. Nadine Bedair is a Saudi journalist that caused a great deal of controversy writing an article "My Four Husbands and I". It was published in an Egyptian newspaper, and begins with "Allow me to choose four, five or even nine men, just as my wildest imagination shall chose. I’ll pick them with different shapes and sizes, one of them will be dark and the other will be blonde. Tall or maybe short, they are to be Chosen from different denominations, religions, races and nations. And I promise you there will be harmony. Create a brand new positive law for me, or may be a divine one. Make me a new law under the umbrella of the fatwa and fantasies, those which you unanimously agree on suddenly and without any advance notice..."

    This story was on Muslimah Media Watch, where it explains she is an advocate for monogamy, but wrote the article as an attempt to make men feel what women feel.
     
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    Helvetii Notable Member

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    #65
    EarlPearl, why should someone have to go live in SA to exercise their freedom with regards to polygamy? Cause you don't like it?

    I have the same question for you which I had for rebecca (which she avoided answering).


    1) Do you support free will and freedom of choice?
    2) Should women be banned from wearing burqas even if they do it willingly and police have the power to arrest the ones who do?

    Go ahead try answering them or just expose yourself as another hypocrite.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #66
    Since you are divorced then we can say that your monogamous relationship didn´t work according to one interpretation but I am still interested to know what do you mean by "work" in a marriage.
    In regard to Saudi Arabia, the brother of the king is in Spain right now and believe me that most the English, American, Swedish,... will jump on a chance to become one of his wives and shop in Cartier, LV, Gucci,.... but the Saudis don´t marry them and just use them for fun. Marriage is many things and as I explained for Rebeca, marriage for love is still a minority case in the world. Even in USA or Canada, women don´t marry the person that they are madly in love with, they marry the guy that they can get.
     
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  7. earlpearl

    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    #67
    @helvetii:

    Do I support free will and freedom of choice? Yes. But its application is conditioned. I can't go walking around a crowded street shooting up everyone if its "my free will".

    2. I don't know about burqa's. Haven't thought about it. Basically that question is tied to questions of Islam in a Western World, not necessarily Polygamy.

    BTW: I used the example of Saudi Arabia because its a nation that supports polygamy, not because its an Islamic nation.

    GWorld: "work" in a relationship. okay...I basically think if 2 people marry they do it out of love/affection directly with one another. Once in that relationship, and assuming they are treating one another as more or less equals rather than one superior and one subserviant...than they work through issues and problems that come through life.

    (my quick off the cuff suggestions)

    If they can't work through that stuff..with some compromises coming from both sides it doesn't work. If they can deal with the issues together than it "works".
     
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    #68
    Are you really comparing 3 people willing getting into a marital arrangement together (which harms no one) to shooting people in a crowded street?

    If a member of a particular sex wants to marry and live with more than one member of the another sex or even the same sex why should they be stopped? Or asked to leave the country? Because you think it'll not *work*? Or because Rebecca thinks that marriage should only be for love and that one person can't be in love with two people? Who are you people or the government to dictate such things and restrict (oppress) people's freedom of choice with regards to their OWN life which doesn't even concern anyone but them?
     
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  9. Will.Spencer

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    #69
    "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others." -- Thomas Jefferson

    Shooting people in a crowded street is not a consensual act. Consensual marriage between two or more consenting adults is not in any way comparable to mass murder.

    Shooting people in a crowded street violates "the equal rights of others." Marrying two or more people does not violate the equal rights of others. Using the force of laws and arms to prevent group marriage does violate the equal rights of others.
     
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    #70
    Polygamy mainly the outcome of boredom.
    It can happen when you are married and really bored with your partner or just don't feel that emotional attachments that bonds you.

    Every country has their own law on polygamy. It actually depends on the culture of the country.
     
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  11. Will.Spencer

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    #71
    National cultures are so passé.
     
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    #72
    wiki:When a man has more than one wife, the relationship is called polygyny; and when a woman has more than one husband, it is called polyandry.
    wiki:In Islam, polygamy is allowed and practised under certain restricted conditions. Muslim men are allowed to practise polygyny, that is, they can have more than one wife at the same time, up to a total of four. Polyandry, by contrast, is not permitted.

    So, this thread being about open-mindness, I think bringing muslims as an example is totally wrong. They have serious issues on how women are treated there. But polygamous relationships are about loving, about learning to not have inferior feelings like jealousy, egoism etc. And it's not about making YOU become one, just admit that not everything that's beyond our understanding is wrong. And I guess group marriage would've been the best term: a group of both women and men forming a family, not a 'boss' who has more partners.
     
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  13. Will.Spencer

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    #73
    Nice post. Too bad there's no Thanks button here at DP.
     
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    #74
    Where are the anti-polygamy people now? :confused:
     
    Helvetii, Aug 23, 2010 IP
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    #75
    Browsing www.jeevansathi.com
     
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    #76
    In the majority. :p
     
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    #77
    Better than Swinging and Swapping lifestyle IMHO.
    If they chose it, there is nothing wrong in that and they can live with that.
    Having said that, a Dedicated server is always better than shared hosting. :p
    That's just my opinion.
     
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    #78
    You have put it very well. I can support such an open attitude. Not a very common phenomenon, though.
     
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    #79
    Ain't load balancing/server farm better than single Dedicated server?
     
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    #80
    LOL - Had to reply to this, I'm literally laughing so hard right now - not sure why I found that so hilarious, but thanks all the same! :L :L +rep :D
     
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