United States Heading towards a Depression?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by decoyjames, Dec 27, 2007.

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  1. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #5061
    I wasn't promoting Julian's allegations. MiA's financial status is not really in question. He could be pulling down a cool million a year, or living on welfare (though I doubt the latter is true). What I was commenting on was Julian, a self proclaimed Marxist, trying to denigrate someone based on financial status. First he calls you poor, then says you are a piece of sh*t because you are poor. He sounds more like a guy who uses financial status as his only measurement of a person than a marxist. What a hypocrite.

    Never heard of Eminem? We have more trailer park millionaires than you can imagine in this country.
     
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  2. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #5062
    Definitely not.
    1. Everyone starts somewhere.
    2. Wealth is something that some people work towards. There's no shame in working towards a completely different goal, as long as you do it with integrity. Problems only arise when people seek the fruit of wealth without putting forth the labor to plant the trees.

    I remember when I was attending a university and working a janitorial job on the campus. I was involved in student government and one of the student senators saw me cleaning the glass doors of the student center. He was the son of wealthy liberals from the Pacific northwest. He was shocked. He said "Will; aren't you ashamed to be seen here, working like a common laborer?" I said "Of course not. This is honest work and I am proud to be doing it." He really didn't see the value of productive contribution through earning a living. He only saw the benefits of trying to live off the wealth built by the productive classes.
     
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  3. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #5063
    I don´t call sitting in a trailer park drinking beer, collecting welfare and waiting to win the prowerball starting somewhere but other than that you are right and people should work for their goals.

    I didn´t know high school dropouts can go to university, which university accepts students without high school diploma? Were you taking artistic liberty and added the part about studying in the university just to make it more interesting story than just working as janitor?
     
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  4. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #5064
    Seriously, are you so incredibly ignorant that you've never heard of the G.E.D.?

    Show up more of your ignorance little man! :p
     
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  5. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    Are you saying that you finally got your G.E.D? I thought you said that you didn´t care that you were high school dropout since you were already working as the president of BT. Anyway if it is true then congratulation for getting your high school diploma for dummies.
    May be you should start an advisory service on how high school dropouts can become head of large corporation so mia can become your vice president. ;):D
     
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  6. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #5066
    I think you're turning into a muzzie -- Gworld bin Drinkin.
     
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  7. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #5067
    LOL. :D:D

    Is this the best you can come up with? Calling me a Muslim. No wonder every piece of "your blog" in fort shitty is copy& paste from other neo-con sites. Don´t you think when you copy & paste from other people sites, it would be nice to put a link to them instead of pretending is your writing? ;)
     
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  8. Corwin

    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    I don't know what you mean by "common social knowledge". I think that you made up that phrase. What is the source of this "common social knowledge"? Is it a convenient phrase you made up in the hopes of inventing credibility where you have none?

    But let me directly address your above statement - see, I've come directly from the corporate world.

    I worked for a company with over 15,000 employees. I was a marketing manager. Now, large corporations are like high school. That would be easy to accept because social dynamics are the same anywhere. Maybe somewhere there is a society where everyone behaves in a mature, responsible manner and everyone is treated with respect. If that society exists, it isn't on this planet.

    Within three years I was making a six figure salary and I did it based on three, and only three, princples. You are going to think I'm making this up but I'd like to hear earlperl's opinion on this.

    These are my three principles:
    1. Always do what you say you are going to do
    2. If you can't meet the customer's schedule for a deliverable, tell them as soon as you know for sure.
    3. Reward loyalty


    Look, most people don't mature - they just grow taller. Most people behave like adult children. They say they will do something, then don't do it, then make lame excuses like a teenager excusing late homework. If you are completely responsible for something, then do what you say you are going to do, no self-excuses. Most people don't do this. Like gworld, they blame others for their own failures and point fingers rather than take personal responsibility for their own lame behavior. Just look at gworld - to him, it's always someone else's fault and someone else's responsibility. And, if someone is down, gworld will kick them. That is a loser's behavior.

    I mean, read this:
    gworld writes at a 4th grade level, and that's doing a disservice to 4th graders. Is this the writing of someone you would trust? Or if you absolutely had to rely on gworld, would you consider him a pathetic liar? There is no integrity, absolutely noting to trust in him. Success and Integrity have a writing style, and it's not in gworld's writing. He rants like a frustrated loser with a focus on poverty. His words have no focus or intent.

    As far as #2, customer is waiting for a deliverable. Deadline passes, no deliverable. Customer calls the 30-something-year-old executive that owes him the work and gets voicemail for three days. He finally speaks to the executive who mumbles out that the work will be one month late. This happens all the time.

    I'll call my customer two weeks in advance and tell them we're going to be a month late. Customer is shocked and awed that I gave them advance notice. They move their schedule back a month and make a note to give me more business because I can be trusted.

    And loyalty - hey, that's how you make friends. Shit happens, and when someone stands up for me I remember it.

    Most people are children. Do these things and be successful.

    But, if you really want to make the big $$$, you have to slip out the back door of the corporate world and innovate, innovate, innovate. Make something new. That's how to become a millionaire in less than a year.

    There's also a fourth principle - give back to others. That's why I wrote this post.
     
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  9. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    The 4th principal of your "success"must be lie, lie and more lie. I can promise you that I am more successful than you will ever be and I don´t kick anyone who is down. The only people that I kick is the neo-con losers who live in their trailer park and hope to win the powerball one day while being a big mouth hateful Republican and the only reason that I do that is because I hope to wake them up from their dream so they can join the rest of us in real world.
     
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  10. Blue Star Ent.

    Blue Star Ent. Well-Known Member

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    #5070
    If it is a new phrase... no big deal. Common social knowledge is similar to saying it is "culture" . I will answer you on that one since I would like to be "sociable", but I would rather see ( as I believe you said ) adults act like adults. I would like to interject when I can about the TOPIC of this thread... the US and a depression. I believe it is a done deal. Since you have corporate experience, you know that if a corporation was operated like the economy of the USA, it would have already been declared insolvent and dismantled by the bank. But... instead they talk about things like "buying debt" ?? I am not interested enough to want to study that, but it just sounds wrong.


    Anyway, the economy is not a two-party problem. Both sides get money from the same people... therefore the money trail leads higher than D or R
     
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  11. Will.Spencer

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    Corwin:

    That's a great post. It's good to see people putting forth the effort to contribute quality posts to the conversation.

    I've worked with large companies where talented people could rise quickly, and with large companies where time in position was an official requirement for promotion. I even worked with one large company which used a system of temporary promotions -- after serving their time in management people cycled back into individual contributor roles.

    "Time in position" companies do appear to be "common social knowledge" in many areas of the globe, but they don't tend to perform well unless supported by taxpayer funding or a government-backed monopoly.

    gworld:

    Those of us who have been around DP long enough remember your pathetic attempts to be an online pimp in Canada. We also remember your miserable failures to promote luxury cars, yachts, and homes -- caused by your inability to communicate on the same level as people who can actually afford those things. We see that pretty much every project you've been involved with is 404.

    Currently it appears that you're living in Spain by mooching off Pomy's hard work and Catherine's web skills. Living off of women who are gullible enough to believe your lies doesn't make you a success, it makes you a mooch. Before you waste your time starting up with a whole new series of lies, you might want to take a moment and consider actually trying to do something with your pathetic and miserable life. It's the only life you are going to get and you are letting it slip through your fingers with nothing to show for it but shame and depression.

    And Helvetti, is this really the kind of scumbag you want to pattern your life after?
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    LOL. :D:D

    It is good that all the BS that I gave to DMOZ people still lives on and you still know nothing about me. On the other hand how is your Arab wife? Do your neo-con Republican "friends" still laugh at you for that and the fact that closest you have ever come to a gun is to the guns owned by your muzzie wife? ;)

    You still have answered my question about the all copy & paste in fort shitty that you pretend is your writing? When are you going to stop stealing other neo-con works and give them credit? :rolleyes:
     
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  13. Will.Spencer

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    gworld:

    Lying is silly. Everyone who has been here for a few years knows the truth.

    The lies you told at DMOZ were that you were a woman. If you're going to continue to lie, you have to learn to keep your lies straight. One of the advantages of telling the truth is how stress-free it makes your life. If you start telling the truth, you will only have to remember one story and it will be easy to remember because you actually lived it.

    My Arab wife is just fine and my neo-con friends think she's wonderful. She and I don't go shooting these days, as we care currently living in Singapore. We are considering relocating to a more gun-friendly environment. My gun handling skills are quite adequate; thank you for your sincere concern. :p

    And, of course, the FortLiberty blog has not received a single complaint of plagiarism. Such amusing stuff you dream up! It must be the liquor talking again, or do you hear the voices even when you're sober?

    Tell Pomy "Hi" for me. :p
     
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    #5074
    Something is not quite right when the minority party, becoming so through deception (Iraqi) and mismanagement (national debt since Reagan - ever increasing per Pug) is proselytizing on the subject of personal success in lite of a nation left by them in shambles. And an even greater pity is their constituency of radicalism is no different than their leaders.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    LOL. That is news for me since I never said in DMOZ that I was a woman. It is good that you moved to Singapore, the losers in KKK who have black mistresses should learn from you and move to Africa.

    You have good neo-com friends who don´t complain you copy& paste their writing in fort shitty but if you like I can post the links to the original and the copies in your fort shitty.
     
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  16. Will.Spencer

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    It's cracking me up that the site for which you are named is one you are now claiming you just made up as a lie to tell the people at DMOZ. I'm sure you registered it for 12 years as part of the prank. :p

    Domain Name: GENTLEMENWORLD.COM
    Created on: 15-May-02
    Expires on: 14-May-14
    Last Updated on: 15-May-10

    Administrative Contact:
    Caine, Julian
    Gentlemen's World Corp.
    6075 South Eastern Ave
    Suite 1
    Las Vegas, Nevada 89119-3146
    United States
    7788921460 Fax --
     
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    If I find his comments funny then he must some sort of role model for me..yeah right. :rolleyes:
     
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    #5078
    I am not referring to the single quote above, but to a recent pattern of sycophancy you have been evincing.
     
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  19. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #5079
    You really believe a tax cut is "welfare"? I hope you do not represent the average Canadian.
    BTW, my long time offer to help pay for your head doctor still stands.
     
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    #5080
    I just heard a couple of asshats talking the same way on the television news -- talking about how people were greedy for wanting to keep their own money.

    When any civilization hits that level of moral turpitude, it's done for. Theft is now considered moral. Evil is now good. Black is now white. Death is now life.

    The United States is adrift without a moral compass to steer by.
     
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