United States Heading towards a Depression?

Are you asking because your facebook friends increased dramatically after they heard you have started giving virtual BJ?

 

You certainly do act your age.
So what does this have to do with the topic?
Post padding again?

 

No, Mia, gworld has admitted that he's surrendered this discussion. See, by his own admission, gworld is a shining example of the failure of the communist philosophy. HIS OWN BEHAVIOR tells us what communism stands for - oppression. Anyone who disagrees must be oppressed - and that was the story of the failure of the USSR.

Go ahead, gworld, show us more. Teach us, by your own disgraced example, what communism really stands for. Please, be the example you have always been.

 

LOL.

I showed what a full all of you are and the best you can do is to post a bunch of nonsense and claim victory. Losers in life, losers in a discussion forum. The only difference is that in the real life you dream of becoming rich one day while in this forum, you are hoping to come up with something intelligent and witty in your posts.

 

For some reason I just went through page 126 of this thread to see if the above was true. Gworld started calling people stupid, then idiots, then started to say really rude things to Mia... but, I also saw a point in his communist teachings.


The "American Dream" is like the "carrot and stick". Capitalism presents you with a dream and then keeps you from experiencing it at the same time. To crawl up the ladder and make it to where the "rich" are requires twenty to thirty years in the capitalistic system, on the average. ( That is changing. ) It also still depends on your social standing to reach the top, as much as on your efforts.



In communism, you take what you are given. What do you get ? Usually, it is similar to what someone under the capitalistic economy has; house, maybe a car, enough toys to keep people amused and busy. One problem with communism is they try to tell you what you can and cannot do in that house you live in. The house, whether you paid for it under capitalism ( the "thirty year plan" ) or it was provided for under communism, is the man´s "castle". Superior governmental systems seldom tell a man what he can and can not do in his own dwelling.



Thanks to Freedom, and the Founding Fathers, a man could become an American and have self-respect in his own house. When something ( such as a house ) is worked for, it has value. When something is given to you, it actually has less value in the eyes of the receiver. You destroy a house under communism, you get another. You destroy a house in the capitalistic economy, you had better have insurance and a good lie.


Conduct ( character ) tells the world which system a person adheres to; self respect through working with your own hands ( which is good and right ), or simply expecting to receive something from those whom you allow to rule you. As always, there will ever be two forms of government; think and decide for yourself OR let others think and decide for you.


Is this way off topic or what ...

 

No, its pretty on topic considering where the OP's topic has been dragged.

The key difference I see between both systems is Opportunity. One presents you with a choice, the other does not. The other difference is, one deals with the economy, the other does not. And yes, Gworld is pretty rude.

 

Unfortunately another one who has no idea what Marx was discussing in Capital and Communism as the next stage in production form. Do you guys ever read anything or just believe everything that you see in Rambo movies?

 

Thanks, I guess. At least you did not call me an idiot, eh ? But continuing, and Rambo was nowhere near my thinking, the results of communism are pretty much represented by the old Russian flag; a hammer and a sickle with a background of red. There are some flags that use red to symbolize blood. You are the communist expert here... is that true about the "hammer and sickle" ?

If so, why would someone willingly choose that ? If you offer a man freedom and he does not take it, what do you think of him ? He is lazy, right ? Oh well...look at the Chinese, they are hard at work and evidently anything but lazy, they just happen to have a dictatorship running the country. Capitalism and Communism work hand in hand in the land of silk.

 

Communism causes poverty. The United States is implementing Communism; poverty should be the expected result.

It's really that simple. This whole thread should be summarized in that one line.

 

Laziness causes poverty, expecting a handout that costs more than the work you put into it is a communist idea.

 

Have you ever looked at USA flag? It has red and stars in it. I suppose according to your logic this proves that USA is controlled by blood thirsty (RED) E. T. (stars) from planet Mercury.

 

The USA flag represents liberty to me, with all fifty states present and the blood of many soldiers shed to keep my country free. The red is for their blood. I was asking what the red stood for in the old Russian flag. It was my guess it also stood for blood, but the flag has a hammer and sickle and stars. It is a completely different idea.

 

very good, then we look at different flags and make up stories like the one with green, plant trees, red are killers with blood on their hand, blue either can be rich countries or aristocrats, white for peace or countries who do a lot of laundry and present these as indisputable facts about each country.

 

Which, as I pointed out, is what we can take as the personality of Communism. That is why gworld has surrendered this discussion.

Why? Does it take 20 to 30 years just because you wrote it? You wrote that, so it must be true? You write a statement and you expect us to believe that completely? Because you say so?

Gee, if I took that attitude with an investor I'd never have raised any VC cash.

The rest of your post is the same. What do you base this on? Do you have any experience? Have you started a business? do you know how to network with others, to form bonds?

THIS is the difference - when you see Mia and i wrote, we reference our experience. When gworld writes, he writes blindly. Anyone who doesn't immediately believe what he writes, he insults. He surrenders the discussion, he makes no attempt at persuasion or to gently present his point of view. He simply lashes out. Losers behave like that.

Not true. In communism, you only keep what they don't take away from you. But in truth, under communism most people starve.

We just don't believe anything written by YOU!

 

That is the normal way in the corporate world to get ahead, it takes usually 20 years ( + or - ). If you work for a government agency, you try to retire after those twenty years and enjoy the "American Dream". It also depends on who you know and what people think of you. Those considered "miscreants" are not going to get there after 50 years. It is common social knowledge. Hey, when are we going to to start talking again about "United States Heading Towards A Depression ?" ?

 

LOL. Look at mia´s old posts and see how he was thanking Bush for his welfare policies which helped him to buy his trailer and now that he has his "web hosting business", he clears in a best case may be about $1500 before tax.

Do you have similar experience to mia? Did Bush welfare checks put your life in order too? You guys know nothing business and that is the reason for all your "concerns and worrying" about taxes for when you are going to strike it rich by winning the powerball.

 

Julian, do you have anything to say outside of personal insults? I was very impressed to see you quoting Marx and Engles, and post your personal analysis, no matter how f*cked up it might be. Such a change from your normally trolling.

If your beloved Marxist ideas are so great, you should be able to defend them on their merits, without all the idiocy. I find it hard to see your trolling as anything other than a loud declaration of defeat. It is also very curious that you try and use financial status as a means to denigrate a person. Marx would be proud. It seems most who roll out that game haven't got a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of.

 

I don't think Mia is poor, or atleast as poor as Julian makes it look, so this is not directed at him but by yours, willys, mia and corwins logic anyone who actually lives in a trailer park in a capitalist economy where "anyone can become anything" would deserve to be denigrated, no?

 

A blend of Capitalism and Communism already exists and basically is the foundation for most western countries.

Having to work for someone is a necessary evil of capitalism - involuntary production for the state is a necessary evil of communism.

Combining the two with palatable options is simply the best solution. Under democracy polarities emerge requiring compromise, the political parties meant to solve the problems often become the obstacles to solutions. The authoritative gov'ts have certain values if administered properly but generally become repressive due to the individual failings of office holders.

Capitalism and Communism combined with a manageable range for both successes and failure within the same system will eventually be a solution for the present conditions, not necessarily of choice but because of the dynamics that make up society.

 

Another example of someone earning over 250X that the Republicans should not want to raise her taxes on by 3% to pay for their Iraqi war, obviously it would be a burden on her. Just keep the working poor on tab where they are to dream of Whitman while paying her taxes.

Obama is ending the I-war, the end of August. Has he consulted the Republicans for their OK - maybe the Iraqi's should form a gov't first to make the effort have some meaning or......the R's will find something, some reason to remain, in time for them to justify whatever their goal was for being there - there is always hope.