What is he doing? Is this Right?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by sleung, Aug 5, 2010.

  1. #1
    This guy goes to me and say I bet I can make you one first page for the terms affiliate program and affiliate network by December.

    I go ok, he might be able to do it in 6 months since both are very competitive terms
    We were not showing up at all in Google for affiliate program and 179 for affiliate network

    One week luster for affiliate network we went from 179 to 19 to 11 to 10 in 4 weeks
    And affiliate program we went from not being listed to nothing to 23 to 17 to 14 in 4 weeks

    I’ve been doing SEO for awhile and never seen this

    What is he doing?

    Even if he is doing mass links it will take at least one update to see that movement, there are very competitive terms.

    I assume black hat

    Any thoughts?
     
    sleung, Aug 5, 2010 IP
  2. 3glogic

    3glogic Peon

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    This is not believable....if this is happen then let us know what the guy did on your site..we also very keen to know the magic..
     
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  3. sleung

    sleung Member

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    serious i can not belive it myslef i have the rank checker reports to prove it

    here is the excel of the rank checker

    the first colum is google, than google.ca, yahoo and bing

    affiliate network

    191 67 - -
    120 98 - -
    120 98 - -
    112 94 - -
    111 94 - -
    112 94 - -
    114 97 - -
    112 96 - -
    115 99 - -
    - 93 - -
    177 124 - -
    179 128 - -
    179 126 - -
    19 19 - -
    11 15 - -
    10 14 - 176

    you see it went from 179 to 10 in 4 weeks

    affiliate program

    - - - -
    - - - -
    - - - -
    - - - -
    - - - -
    - - - -
    - - - -
    - - - -
    - - - -
    - - - -
    23 42 - -
    17 17 - -
    14 13 - -

    you see it went from nothing to 14 in 4 weeks
     
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  4. 3glogic

    3glogic Peon

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    outstanding, i am just solute to that guy who have done this magic, may it be black hat but given you the hot seat...so enjoy of your rankings..
     
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  5. lukeg32

    lukeg32 Peon

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    Without the website in question, this is meaningless. 99.999999% of all stats are made up..... :p
     
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  6. sleung

    sleung Member

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    http://www.sellhealth.com

    idiot

    why would i make this up

    im not the one doing it i want to figure out how he got to this position
     
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  7. rhinocl

    rhinocl Member

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    Getting there is only half the battle. Ask him if you will stay there in the rankings or if he is doing anything that might later get you sandboxed.
     
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  8. monfis

    monfis Well-Known Member

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    Yes good solid SEO work - is this done with pure link building, or is there on page/site optimization involved?
     
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  9. sleung

    sleung Member

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    i have no idea how this person did this

    i checked the links and they is not rise in google webmaster links or the yahoo explorer links
     
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  10. lukeg32

    lukeg32 Peon

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    Of for god sake, grow up.... *sigh* I dont know why i even bother helping people that clearly cant grasp 'the internet', find your answer from someone else...... idiot.
     
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  11. monfis

    monfis Well-Known Member

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    #11
    You should know if he changed something on your pages, or asked you to do so.
    Concerning links, yes they don't need to be visible, I do that too when I serve competition (SEOs who outsource) to hide how I work. :D
     
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  12. JoomlaDesigner

    JoomlaDesigner Active Member

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    #12
    This seems interesting... If there is nothing in links then how can a website get popularity? I just checked backlinks and you got 122 Google backlinks. It's quite a good figure.
    Ask him for how much time, this position will be there? Is there any chance to get sandbox??
     
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  13. psharma

    psharma Prominent Member

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    #13
    The million dollar question:
    How Much you paid for it and what is his email address.
     
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  14. monfis

    monfis Well-Known Member

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    Very few chances to get sandboxed, but the site may fall a bit, just a bit, back when he stops working.
     
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    monfis Well-Known Member

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    Not interested in his email, but I'd like to know the prices too.
     
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    psharma Prominent Member

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    And what when you know the prices? :p
     
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  17. sleung

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    the backlinks have not changed

    i have been keeping track

    no new links shown up on webmaster or yahoo explorer

    i dont know if i will get sandboxed which is what concerns me if this is black hat

    remember these terms are very compeitive and i have never seen rankings rise so fast before
     
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  18. simpseo

    simpseo Active Member

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    #18
    I would never instruct someone to perform SEO for me unless I knew their methods beforehand. As someone already posted, it's one thing to get a good position but another to stay there.

    There are a number of reasons why the links may not show up in YSE. This can happen when you build low level links to a site (I refer to things like forum links or syndicated article links here).

    But really, when you drip feed the info to the forum or withhold certain information, it's hard to get an idea of what the guy is doing. The fact that you weren't confident that he could achieve these rankings means that you probably didn't pay him much, or at least you didn't pay him upfront, so I'd suspect that he built a large number of low level links to the site with some sort of automated software, placing the link building efforts firmly in grey hat territory, at the very least.

    Of course, someone has the answer to your question. Have you tried asking him?
     
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  19. peterzeller

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    #19
    Google Webmaster and even Yahoo will show just a fraction of your backlinks, and it usually takes time. So just to let you know:

    You have currently:

    2,270 backlinks to your homepage
    24,001 backlinks to your whole domain

    Please let us know when Google will remove your site from their results. How do you like these "Pro Solutions Pills" backlinks BTW?

    Ah ok I'm just jealous :p But I really think this is risky IMHO, I prefer relevant links...
     
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  20. HighRollerT

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    Sellhealth has over 150 pages, 17000 backlinks and is over 6 years old!

    Those are the building blogs for a high ranking site!
     
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