Duplicate content penalty what happens if you are a portal

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by balugaa, Sep 23, 2006.

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    This is the thing, i was speaking to a search engine professional dude, who said that my site was not ranking well in the search engine because of duplicate content.

    My site is about news of the financial kind, I have tonnes of sources, and thousands of story. these appear on other places yes, but the whole point of my website i bring it all together .. pretty much like what googlenews does, but in my case very specific i.e. only financial news ..

    So currently i need to get the site ranked for some of the keywords, and was wondering how if possible i could go about doing this ...

    I have incoming links from a number of high pr sites too,
     
    balugaa, Sep 23, 2006 IP
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    hmilesjr Active Member

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    I have a few questions. What is the url? How old is your site? How old are your backlinks?
     
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  3. balugaa

    balugaa Peon

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    Hi the back links are about 2 months old,

    I even have one from business.com (paid ofcourse) The site itself is 6 months old.
     
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    balugaa Peon

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    I cant seem to be able to post the link here ..

    its financialrealtime.com
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    That's because you're new.
     
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    how are you getting the news source, are you just copying directly other sites? how much info are you giving on the first page? do you replicate the style in each page(titles /links / etc?)?
     
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    I assume your using rss feeds to get your content. On your home page you have a broad mix of feeds displayed there. This mixture may help you not get hit to hard with a dup content filter. But your inner pages may get hit harder, unless your mixing feeds from differnt sources for each category.

    But don't take my word for it. I just remember reading a post where they recommend mixing feeds.

    Cool site though
     
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    hmilesjr Active Member

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    IMO, you are not ranking because you are new. You are only showing 70 pages indexed in Google and no backlinks in Google. You need to continue building quality backlinks. I am wondering how you are getting your content on your site? It appears that it is done through some script and being dynamically generated. Is that correct? Do you have licensing rights to use their content?
     
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  9. balugaa

    balugaa Peon

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    I pull the stories from the news providers and some blogs

    All the feeds are paid for, so yes they are fully legit, I have even more in the pipeline, am kinda hesitant to go ahead and add them, because of the penalty issue, thinking being, if i add more I will simply sink deeper.
     
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  10. balugaa

    balugaa Peon

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    Hi, The stories are sourced via feeds, some rss some newsml a whole variety really, admitedly there is similarity in the secondary pages, but then given what i am trying to do it is difficult to make them any different, other than the titles and the descriptions
     
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    balugaa Peon

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    Also I forgot to add,

    I actually blocked the indexing to the detail of the stories, I was told to do this by some SEO dude, im not sure it was a good idea, his idea being, that it reduces the duplicate element

    Any thoughts on this?
     
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    hmilesjr Active Member

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    I don't believe the use of the RSS is an issue. RSS was created for this particular reason. Many large news sites get stories from Reuters, AP, etc so I don't think it is an issue. What I do think could be an issue is if you are not adding original content yourself. Even if it is nothing more than writing a unique summary of news items.
     
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    I can't see any duplicate issues without looking into it more.
    As your site is still relatively new I'd guess at the moment the ranking problem is down to the fact your still sandboxed (or just coming out now) and simply don't have enough links to rank for the keywords that I checked - Financial News, (Financial Blogs ranking 51, allinanchor-36)

    Really your SEO should know all of this
     
    MattUK, Sep 26, 2006 IP
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    balugaa Peon

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    I dont have a SEO (yet), I have spoken to a few though, its something i need to get done either myself or get someone to do it for me
     
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    If you can spare the time it's worth learning about. If not make sure you get good references, examples of their work and are comfortable that they know what they're talking about.
     
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    balugaa Peon

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    Thats one of the reasons i a decided to check here first ... learn about it ... hmmm i would not know where to begin, information on SEO is somewhat vague if you ask me, everyone seems to be able to write about it in one page, but no one provides specifics ..
     
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    I think that learning it yourself, applying some things, experimenting, etc. will give you a good base to use before hiring an seo. This will make it easier to find an seo that knows what they are doing.

    Learning yourself will take a fair bit of time. As you improve your seo skills and slowly improve your rankings, you could then hire an SEO to continue the work.

    Unless you have a decent budget and find a good SEO that can consult with you to increase your learning curve and acheive the better rankings faster. Have them create a SEO plan that identifies keywords (beyond the obvious ones), recomends on-page seo elements, and a backlinking strategy for off-page seo. You then take their plan and impliment it yourself over a few months. But you may need to drop about $500 to $1000 to do so. Plus your link buying budget.
     
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