I've been fighting to the top of a certain keyword that high very strong competitors. Its taken me about 2yrs now and I currently bounce from 2rd to 5th place with this keyword. The keyword is supposed to get roughly 6.5million searches per month says Google adwords keyword checker. I think they have lied to me because I may get about 58,000 visitors a month from this rank. Anyone notice google OVER estimating by a couple of million? seriously!
I assume you are using "exact" keyword search numbers and not "broad"? Are you using the global or local search figure? You might rank #5 in Canada but something completely different in other parts of the world.
Not much to add after mjewel's questions, except that it is true on the flipside too: http://yoast.com/traffic-estimation-googles-traffic-estimator/ He had the problem where Adwords was telling him there was NO traffic and he ended up getting a lot more traffic than what they were estimating, but that was a case where no one was bidding on that keyword.
Nope. Its a global checker and it shows the average. US & canada are usually 5th. The google adwords tool was just being a BIG LIAD. Now my site is close to being topped out for profit meaning I am stuck sitting here thinking of what to do next.
And you are choosing "exact" match? For a keyword like "web hosting" there are 6.1 million broad searches, but only 1.2 million exact. A #5 rank could expect about 59,000 visits a month using a 4.92% average click through for a #5 rank.
Yes, an exact match. A ONE word keyword, for example "CARS". and I think that after an estimate of around 6.5million being down to 4th to 6th place would not give you only $60,000UVs. I would assume that you'd get at LEAST 10% of the full number. What is amazing?
10% is way too high for a 4th to 6th place ranking. You would be lucky to get 5%. I doubt you would be ranking globally for such a broad keyword. Each google geographical region returns different results based on the IP of the person who is searching. "Global" refers to searches from all countries and languages. I would check the local searches and see if 5% is close to what you are seeing. I rank #1 & #2 for some competitive keywords, but 95% of the traffic google sends is from Canada and the US. Obviously I am not ranking high in other countries. Global is also based on a 12th month average, so you aren't likely to see an even distribution for each month.
Yes that's right Google KW Tool shows more keywords then search... But i find some thing from my experience that Google count each and every word search all over. Tell you an example... If you search "wholesale" keyword it shows total number of times wholesale word is search. Mean's it include "wholesale suppliers" , "wholesale directory", "wholesale dropshippers" and where ever wholesale word comes in.. I hope you got my point
Those numbers do not reflect actual search volumes, thinking of them as relative to one another is probably a better way to consider it. Also keyword checker (Google Adwords Keyword Tool I presume) deals with ppc data, and don't consider organic measurements. Not an accurate way to measure possible traffic The only other thing I could think of is: how did you determine you were ranked #5? A query search on google? Rank checking tools? If it was the former, make sure you weren't signed in (I am captain obvious). That's it for now. -E
No, I use keyword trackers and stuff like that. It ranks sometimes 4th other times 6th, but mostly is 5th.
this is the first complain i have heard about keyword tool.i dont think they lie.there are many things that depend like on your site position the result might not have attracted users.the 30 words around that particular keyword were not like by users.or maybe the results above you are so good that users do not bother to see anything else.the chance of this is higher than google lieng.the thing is what benifit will google get by that
I also facing same problem my keyword don't have 6,000,000 searches just have 60,000 searches globally and I am on top 3 for some time now. Just getting around 2000 visitors per month. I think there is some problem with this tool. Confirming that if check results from any other tool they must be different to adword.
I doubt you rank globally for the keyword. How did you determine your rankings in different areas of the world?
I think all of us in positions lower than 3 for any keyword get virtually no traffic, the number one spot is sadly all important.
Theres no guarantee that your site would get clicked on just because it is #1, 2 5 or 10 e.t.c From experience I have found that position 3 works best for my niches... anyhow just by changing your page listing description can return a higher CTR.. I would be interested to know what your site is... Because I guarantee all you need to do is change a couple of words in your description and your traffic would double or even treble for that keyword your ranking high for.
Lower ranking positions imply a serious drop in visitors. A rule of thumb I use is that each position divides the number of visits by 5. Though not exact, in my niches it's more or less true. mjewel has also a point: How did you determine your rankings in other areas of the world? Because if you go for Google.com for this, you are totally mistaken, people in other countries get redirected to the "local" Google, and there you may rank far far behind... Check out this article about How To Access the other Googles. Perhaps it's an eye-opener...
well, if you rank in Canada and US up top, then usually you stand close in the local google searches as well.
Sorry, that is NOT correct! I have a couple of sites that rank #1 in Google.com and fail to appear in Google.ca and other locales for the same keyword on the first page. I need explicit targeting for that. Google performs geo-targeting based on the user locale and location, and the results vary from country to country, EVEN in the same Google! I travel a lot & have experimented this. The results you get (in English) when accessing Google France when in France, Germany or in Spain are close, but not exactly the same. BTW, you do not have to believe me, try it out yourself! For example, in Google.com for the word "cars" I get the following results: 1. New & Used Cars for Sale, Auto Dealers, Car Reviews and Car ... 2. Cars (2006) 3. Disney/Pixar Cars - The Official Site 4. Images for cars 5. CARS.gov - Car Allowance Rebate System - Home - Formerly Referred ... In Google.Ca the same keyword provides the following results: 1. Imágenes de cars (using a Spanish locale) 2. Cars (2006) 3. Pixar - Cars 4. Cars - Página oficial de la pelÃcula. Una pelÃcula de Disney / Pixar. 5. VÃdeos sobre cars Note that for google.com I get the "standard" feed, but in Google.ca I get a localized/geotargeted version (I'm right now in Spain). The results are NOT the same! car.com, which in Google-com ranks #1,, in google.ca ranks #7! If you want to target your particular keyword world-wide, you need also to perform some geo-targeting, my dear Laceygirl. I insist, read the referenced article.
5th position usually gets only 2-3% of the total searches. So I think your figures are not too off. And most of the time you maybe ranking worse in other countries. Add your site to Google Webmaster and check it's actual rankings and CTR