That's what everybody suspects, except certain politicians in certain countries. You just showed again what ordinary muslims WANT. .....Regulated Jihad .... submitting others to ISLAM. And you have the face to blame us on bashing Islam. (I am surprised the TRUTH TELLERS got Banned on this forum.) The moment muslims get stronger than Israel, she is finished. The moment muslims get stonger than the Europeans in Europe, they are finished. I hope politicians all over the world realize that. Islamists can hardly live in peace with other religions. Fact in past, fact today. I know your answers by heart. Seems like the Divine idea of Love is quite remote to you (I still hope that more muslims will accept it ..... one day.) sunlove
Ya, I know we see Israel killing innocent people everyday, including kids that are not even near military targets whatsoever. They keep going into other peoples territory and blowing up others and themselves. Shoot they even have American money go to their public broadcasting station to teach kids to kill everyone who doesn't believe the way they do. They call their enemies pigs, snakes, satan, etc.. and brainwash little kids to want to kill themselves as they die for their cause ...... oh, woops, that wasn't Israel, now who does those things? Can you answer a simple question like that?
Who cares if Muslims referred to this or not? I asked you not to be foolish and mix the two matters together as if they were one and the same. Denial of what... That Muslims said this, or that Islam teaches this? Question stands unanswered.... Your point means nothing. Sure, SOME Muslims said this. Who cares? Now listen to my point again. SOME Muslims saying this does not justify your rejecting Islam as the final devine revalation to mankind. Tell me how it does without going off topic. Let's end this projected denial you keep talking about once and for all. SOME Muslims did make the mistake of saying this Are you happy now? Now please either clame that Islam also teaches this with proof, or accept the fact that "Muslims saying this" does not justify rejecting Islam. I really hope you realise that every single thing you've ever braught to this forum is about Muslims doing this or doing that, which does not resolve you as an individual from continued study of Islam with an open mind. Nothing was nothing before anything. Please tell me you at least understand what I'm saying here, before beginning to refute something I have no concern for. These are matters of war which are decided on the battle field. I already said you would not agree with my point of view. Hense the need for war! The reason we hold this view is entirely because of it being a religious obligation and has nothing to do with land.
I do and many others do. syriankid did as well, as he expended great effort to deny such. I responded accordingly. It's not a complex issue. Read the thread, read the sources especially the last source I posted. Answered above. Repeating yourself in denial won't help. rejection of islam was not an issue in the debate. Adding more to the simple point that muslims refer to Jews a pigs and apes, followed by overwhelming evidence of such, including curriculum being taught was, is, and will continue to be the point now matter how many red herrings you throw in the mix. Case is closed, move on. Oh, I did mean to ask, is this the kind of racist crap you teach at your school? Nice work, you are no longer in denial. Of course, you don't really give a crap anyway...you are a muslim, we are infidel. Or should I phrase it "we are borg, resistence if futile?" I'm always happy to expose the crimes, hatred and intolerance of islam. How about you? I do not take direction from muslims, although in another thread, I've given you an appropriate response to this. So you've noticed I'm not a muslim and sit around trying to convince the infidels that all the hatred and attacks on infidels is just a "misunderstanding?" I believe you have overwhelming concern regarding Israel, or you would not have exposed yourself in such a manner regarding it. I remind you again, no other entity has more experience in occupying other people's land than islam. Israel was Israel long before a man invented islam. Pretty much rules out that "peace and tolerance" myth. But we both know better, don't we? Far be it from me to get in your way of haterizing on Jews. Can't stand in the way of "destiny" can we?
You know very well that rejecting Islam on the basis of what Muslims said is my only issue with you at this point. Nice job skipping over this one point. Going to read this responce. It's all I really want from you. Since it was the entire point you have been ignoring for so long, looking forward to your responce. Edit: The responce he's talking about can be found here
Goddamn that is so awesome. And in regards to the original topic; I think living in this world with muslims is starting to feel like it would feel if you lived with a severely manic-depressive relative. You never know when they're gonna perceive even the most trivial thing as a slight and go completely apeshit. Must the whole world walk on egg shells for Islam?
the moslems get stronger than israel or europe i will revolt. There will be a revolution against islam,people hate them now-imagine in 10-15 years?
you seem to be very knowledgable in this area. a "common murderer"? anything proving this hypothesis of yours? http://www.islam101.com/science/bucaille.html http://www.answering-christianity.com/sci_quran.htm http://www.submission.org/Q-science.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei#Church_controversy eh, the church asked galileo to take his words about the earth being round back and not to publish his ideas. he wasn't pardoned by the church until much later: http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2001-10/1003105251.Sh.r.html "He who sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed." If this commandment is obeyed, then the four billion people who do not believe in the biblical god must be killed. Exodus 22:20 If you worship the wrong god, God will get jealous and kill you. Deuteronomy 6:15 Destroy the altars, images, and places of worship of those with different religions. Deuteronomy 7:5 God orders the destruction of all other places of worship. Deuteronomy 12:2-3 Kill those of other faiths. Reject their beliefs and do not learn about them. Deuteronomy 12:30 God forbids marriages with those of other tribes. Deuteronomy 7:3 Kill everyone who has religious beliefs that are different from your own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7 http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/www/Bible/Deuteronomy.html
Nothing from the New Testament? Same old thing, no one ever turns to the gospel of Jesus to make their point. Impress me, quote the New Testament.
Couple of things buddy. 1. The church mentioned here and many other places is the catholic church - they do not represent all Christians or even Jesus at times. In fact the catholic church follows many man made laws and rituals that Jesus spoke against. 2. The Bible mentions the earth being round (or at least making a reference to that point) a few times 3. The earth isn't on a turtles back such as a false religions believed 4. The old testament God did tell Israel (Jews) to destroy those who were not believers and to take over land. That was then and was a command for a certain people for a certain time. I suppose you can't understand that... 5. The new testament is just that - the people broke the old testament and through God's grace and mercy we have a new one.
I'd say, everything is written about human natures, when we're without God's Grace and Law, in the old testament. Islam is grounded solely on the old testament and to make things even worse, twisted it.