Questions , Need Fair answers .

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Cyb3rKing, Jun 28, 2010.

  1. #1
    First Question :

    Are people who post hatred content for years paid to do this ? or something happened to them in ther life like uncl died in a train explosion :) ?
    Honesty please or ignore it .

    Second Question :

    why do mods. apply forum rules on muslims if they are attacking anybody , while if an atheist or whoever attacks them then it's ok and no problems even if he insults directly .

    Third Question :

    Are people so dumb to keep posting hatred content and make us hate each other , why is that ? where is the shared respect ? everybody is free to believe whatever he believes in and you have no rights to attack anybody's belief weither you are an atheist or a muslim .

    Fourth Question :

    why don't people discuss Buddism , Hindusism , sikhism , etc .. ( not sure if I got the right spelling ) .

    Fifth Question :

    Why don't people answer questions directly , yes or no and then explain but not turn to other points or talk too much ?



    Open Minded people only are allowed to answer , Idiots or Non-Educated please click on back button in your browser .
     
    Cyb3rKing, Jun 28, 2010 IP
  2. alexispetrov

    alexispetrov Peon

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    #2
    First Question:
    People are often hateful. Here we have hateful people of every religion, from Atheism to Islam and everything in between. People post "hateful" things because they hate what is going on in the world. Like when some crazy little loser from Leeds says hitting women is OK, we feel angry that person is allowed to live when he is just a time bomb who will one day rape and beat women. (I am referring of course to thegr4 who believes raping a woman to make her pregnant should be legal.) Also, the fact you posted a smiling face talking about anyone's loved one or family member dying in an explosion speaks volumes about your intentions.

    Second Question: Mods here are great. They enforce the rules fairly in most cases. I have received infractions here and I am an Atheist. The reason you receive infractions is because you make posts without meaning. Trying to call someone a prostitute is considered harassment as it adds nothing to a discussion. You were warned prior to making the post, then continued - so of course a mod will give you an infraction! They had specifically and publicly warned you prior to your post.

    Third Question: You do this. I do this. Everyone here does this. Why do YOU do it? It's probably the same as why everyone else does it, too.

    Fourth Question: They do. It's just less common because there are less people from these religions starting threads. People start threads about current news a lot, which often involves terrorist attacks, people being sent to jail for kissing in Saudi Arabia, children being married and recently a 13 year old girl who died after being married off; her husband literally raped her to death. She died from internal bleeding. This was of course an Islamic marriage. Stories such as these invoke a strong emotional response - mostly of disgust and anger - so are discussed frequently.

    Fifth Question: A lot of people do answer directly, however others wont. If you refer to thegr4's threads, you will notice that he frequently ignores questions until asked multiple times. Other people, like awinsjclarke/menj will say things like "I don't have to answer you!" which defeats the point of posting in this forum as it is for discussion and debate.


    I will briefly address your last line as well - you can't say who is and isn't allowed to answer in any thread here - just so you know.
     
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  3. Cyb3rKing

    Cyb3rKing Peon

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    #3
    First of all , Thanks for taking time to answer . But I have some notes about your answers , First is that you shouldn't mention members' names , I'm talking in general and they see you the same .

    Comments : Answer #1
    Well I've never seen you posting any bad things about Christians , Jews , Atheists as if they are all innocents and never committed a single crime , Crimes don't express the religion , Terrorism is political not religious , don't mix between them ! they just use religion as a tool like the crusaded had done .

    Answer #2
    I guess it's less common that mods give infractions to non-Muslims even if they go offtopic and attack members like you did now in your reply to my topic .

    Answer #3
    We don't , we defend ourselves and call you for peace and understanding speech , If some groups of us are stupid that doesn't mean all are, same applies to you . Instead of posting that hate stuff we can get closer towards each other with Ideas and comprehensive speech and not insults and Draws of what you claim draws of prophet Muhammed peace be upon him , why do you make it ? to make Muslims hate you more ?

    Answer #4
    Well extreme cases don't express the religion , and you have extreme cases in your societies .. check any crime update site if you want to see , But too much to post for you .

    Answer #5
    why do you keep attacking other members by name ? maybe because one of them had beaten you in some speeches before .

    And I'm allowed to say who answers and who not , I don't want the thread to be spammed by Idiots coming to argue here .
     
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  4. GeorgeB.

    GeorgeB. Notable Member

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    #4
    Extremism is as extremism does sir.

    Conflicting religious and ethnic beliefs can be so powerful as to cause most if not all of the hatred you see on this and other forums.

    Ask yourself those same questions from the standpoint of someone on the outside looking in (an agnostic viewpoint perhaps? :D) and I think the answers will be pretty clear for you.
     
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  5. Cyb3rKing

    Cyb3rKing Peon

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    #5
    Extremism is on both sides sir lol , Everybody here (most of them ) think from one view because of hatred content posted . If there's no hatred content posted we'd be able to discuss religion more freely at a higher level with shared respect based on evidence .
     
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  6. alexispetrov

    alexispetrov Peon

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    #6
    My answers did mention members by name, as an example - it was very broad if you'd care to reread that section, and you will notice it was purely an example of the greater scenario.

    Answer 1: You are very, very new here. Just because you haven't seen any posts from me about different religions that doesn't mean I haven't. I have. In fact I've said negative things about almost every religion here - except for Atheism because it isn't a religion. You can't judge all Atheists in the same way as one can judge religious people because, for example, Christians all (more or less) believe homosexuality is wrong - Atheists don't have things like this they must believe. Half might believe it, half might not. It's different to a religion as our beliefs are all different - so it can't be judged the same way - does that make sense? One Atheists beliefs could be total opposites to another persons, only both believe there is no god. Totally different thing to a religion.

    Answer 2: I didn't go off topic - I answered your question and provided an example. Normally when answering questions in P&R we provide examples. That was not something that I would get an infraction for because it wasn't against the rules.

    Answer 3: You say you defend yourselves. The truth is plenty of Muslims post hateful things and plenty of others do too. Maybe others are defending themselves as well - maybe they are offended by your views, as you are by theirs. NO ONE is innocent here and NO ONE is simply defending themselves sweetly in a corner. For example, you calling me a whore and saying you'd fuck me - that was hateful and offensive. It wasn't a defense of you - it was an attack. It's fine, we ALL do it, me too - but don't pretend to me innocent. No one is. (Also I haven't made a picture of Muhammad, but when it was done it was in protest of free speech after Muslims threatened to kill someone for drawing one. Basically. I think you know this though.)

    Answer 4: Extreme cases do not mean everyone of a religion or group is like that, no. I think everyone here knows that. But when they happen they make people angry and sad and so we talk about it. Muslims here post lots of things against Israel, because right now there is lots to post - it is the same thing. There is no right or wrong, only discussion, debate and opinions.

    Answer 5: I think you're confused. We use each others' names frequently here. By using examples, you can understand my responses without saying; "I don't believe you. Who does that?" - it is not an attack. If it were I would be obvious about it. The people I mentioned have never "beaten me in some speeches before" - no one normally "beats" anyone here.

    And while you can write that people are not allowed to answer, I'm just letting you know that they are still allowed to answer and it isn't up to you. I just mean, don't expect anyone to not post here because you say they can't. It isn't like they will get infractions because this is free forum.
     
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  7. Cyb3rKing

    Cyb3rKing Peon

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    #7
    Well
    Answer #1
    That's very very uncommon , I see it's all targeted attack on Islam and on Muslims , And I wouldn't have called you a whore if you showed respect and real statistical information about Aids not just from your brain .

    Answer #2
    I don't mean you , you didn't go offtopic yes but I meant you attacked some people here in the topic .

    Answer #3
    Drawings of prophet Muhammed makes Muslims angry , and that's your point in it .. So All you want is more hatred between us . I don't hate atheists , agnostics , jews , christians in general but can be personal hatred . I've read many atheistic topics and It didn't make sense for me .

    Answer #4
    Quite right , so I can say I agree with this , But we should also post good points .

    Answer #5
    ok , I don't really care for attacking other members I was just pointing it out .

    And thanks for talking less aggressively and more open minded than before .
    I'm new here and I got bored from these discussions , So I'll stick out at other sections better .
     
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  8. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #8
    You seem to repeatedly contradict yourself. Maybe you need to sit and decide what you believe in and then post.
     
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  9. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    Dude, the use of the word "whore" was so over the top it is ridiculous. Your quote above is like the apology that usually follows a wife beating. For the record, I can tolerate a lot of name calling, but when you direct that kind of language at a woman, its going to piss off every civilized man on the forum.
     
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  10. Cyb3rKing

    Cyb3rKing Peon

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    #10
    Already said that , It's wrong and unacceptable to attack other members .. But It's not my main point to care about .
     
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  11. Cyb3rKing

    Cyb3rKing Peon

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    @Obamanation
    Every civilized man believes that whores do an honored job and like any other job , are you non civilized ? :p where's the insult it's like calling somebody a Doctor is it an insult ?:)
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    Did you just justify calling her a whore?
     
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  13. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #13
    You have zero credibility when you say the later because you already said the former. Got it?
     
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  14. alexispetrov

    alexispetrov Peon

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    #14
    I just had the hugest most uncontrollable smile. Seriously.

    Today has been a fantastic day for me on DP - the last few have, actually - I've seen so many fantastic posts from the men here; one after another, day after day. I always do, but this has been a bit different than other weeks.

    I love how you all are - it makes me feel happy.

    That, and I'm a sucker for a gentleman - totally. ^-^;
     
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  15. Cyb3rKing

    Cyb3rKing Peon

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    #15
    Again I didn't call her a whore as an attack , She was attacking Muslims and I defended , I guess I called her babe , so she said : that means you want to fuck me , so I said why not how much money do you want ? .
    I didn't attack out of myself , read the topic and you understand .

    @obamanation
    why not ? can be another justification , It's same like calling you Dr.obamanation LOL :D
     
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  16. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    Oh, my apologies. I did not realize you were defending Muslim honor when you called her a whore. Well, if it was in defense of Islam I guess any behavior is acceptable.
     
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  17. Cyb3rKing

    Cyb3rKing Peon

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    #17
    Incase you don't get the being a whore isn't bad or an insult , It's a legal profession like being a doctor .. So where's the insult here ?? point it out please !
     
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  18. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #18
    You are so full of shit.
     
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  19. alexispetrov

    alexispetrov Peon

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    #19
    Me response to this;
    His to that;
    Just thought condensing some of this may help. You whine about being disrespecting other members and the like, yet you seem to do so frequently. You even PM'd me;
     
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  20. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #20
    I think browntwn has summed up everything that needs to be said right there.

    Cyb3rKing is just trolling.
     
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