How to convert an Athiest to a Muslim

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  1. thegr4

    thegr4 Well-Known Member

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    #241
    Its talking about the battle ground, read the whole chapter. By giving only this verse translation again and again, you are just proving that you are a moron.
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #242
    Well, the reality is that Muslim world considers itself at war with everyone so it is a distinction without a difference.
     
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    thegr4 Well-Known Member

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    #243
    Battle ground means those people who have weapons against you and are directly involved in war. It does not include people sitting at home and watching CNN. Or in other words, its not what you did to Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
     
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    mi25 Active Member

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    #244
    This is a video of Muslim terrorist kill 14 children trying to go to school. Education for children and their books is considered battleground in Afghanistan. The Muslim terrorists consider knowledge and books as a very big threat to Islam and is punished by death. It heartbreaking to see these little children holding hands just before the suicide bomb that was detonated right next to them.


    [video=youtube;4qLXEfRiLIs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qLXEfRiLIs[/video]
     
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  5. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #245
    Or for that matter: Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya, Kashmir, Bosnia, Kosovo....the list is endless.
     
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  6. mi25

    mi25 Active Member

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    #246
    Bosnia and Kosovo was helped by America so get your facts checked. There are plenty of people in Iraq and Afghanistan that welcomed America there and are sporting USA now. If your idols are the terrorists than that is a different story.
     
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    swiftsaves Well-Known Member

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    #247
    if you give some one money and tell them look camera is rolling come in front of it and say it what we want you to say .every one goes after it .afghaniztan is worlds poorest country .some parts of iraq also specially shia areas .

    But Time is not far when america leave these countries and run .LOOK at he European economics Look at the American financial satiation .AND FOR FULL DETAILS BESIDE JEWISH MEDIA WATCH LATEST HOLLYWOOD MOVIE UNTHINKABLE . YOU WILL GET ALL QUESTIONS ANSWERD OR DONT FORGET TO SEE HARDLOCK ALSO .
     
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    mi25 Active Member

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    #248
    Both governments in Iraq and Afghanistan support America and their soldiers fight along side NATO forces against the very few terrorist Muslims compare to the rest of the population . I don't understand why all the Muslims in this forum are in love with the terrorists so much. America will eventually withdraw all the troops from Iraq and Afghanistan and the quality of life will improve greatly in both countries as soon as all the terrorists are whipped out. Both the Taliban and Saddam regime has treated its own people like dogs. How could someone other than terrorists them self's support the Taliban and the dictatorial Saddam regime ?
     
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  9. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #249
    "The history of the past one hundred years shows us that atheistic ideologies can sanctify more and bigger atrocities than Christianity or Islam ever did. The casualties inflicted by Communism and National Socialism vastly exceed many hundredfold the casualties inflicted by theocracies. In some cases (Mexico in the 1930s, Soviet Russia, and the People 's Republic of China) , there has been appalling persecution of theistic belief by politically empowered atheists, exceeding any historical atrocities against unbelievers and heretics."

    David Ramsay Steele, "Atheism Explained: From Folly to Philosophy", Preface, xi
     
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    mi25 Active Member

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    #250
    Although communism has killed millions of people that has nothing to do with being atheist. Atheists simply believe there there is no God. There is no book that the Atheist follow to brainwash them to hate and kill other people. The communist dictators killed they political enemies and anyone else that was threatening their power.
    You could say that communism has killed more people than all the other religions. Most people under communism were still very religious. They just didn't have the freedom to practice their religion.
     
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    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #251
    Communism is the product of being an atheist. Or one could say, they are made out of atheists. Trying to absolve Atheism of all these atrocities done doesn't change the facts.
     
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    robjones Notable Member

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    #252
    LOL. That's about the silliest statement in the thread. I know athiests that are hardcore capitalists. I'm pretty sure becoming an athiest doesnt lead to an automatic turn away from being a capitalist or a believer in any specific form on non-theistic government.
     
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    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #253
    Not my problem if you don't think Stalin and Mao Tse Tsung are atheists....facts say otherwise.
     
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    robjones Notable Member

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    #254
    I suppose if you see a couple of blue cars with flat tires you'll decide that blue paint causes flats.
     
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    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #255
    Oh noes! I'm about to become a Communist! :p

    Really -- Communism and Islam are both totalitarian regimes which place no value on individuals. There's not much difference between the two and I'm not about to embrace either one.
     
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    alexispetrov Peon

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    #256
    If I lift my shirt, will I cause an earthquake?

    Ah.... Boobquakes. It only goes to support your blue paint-flat tire theory.
     
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    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #257
    Straw man arguments from the Three Stooges as usual.
     
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    alexispetrov Peon

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    #258
    Lame assed responses from the he-she yet again :)
     
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    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #259
    I don't give a rat's ass as to what you think.

    Going back to the thread topic, if I were someone looking for a "new" religion, I certainly won't choose Atheism. Judging from the militant behaviour the Three Stooges display here, I think Atheism is something someone can do without.
     
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    #260
    Indeed this is correct. Islamic scholarship divides the world into us and them -- dar al-Islam and dar al-Harb. Between the two, no real peace is possible, only the temporary truce of Hudna.

    Pausing to reload isn't "peace".
     
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