For all israeli people and for all who hate islam

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by moorafun, Jun 26, 2010.

  1. trustedfire9

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    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #43
    I'm not going to waste a lot of effort debunking yet another charlatan. Follow the links at Harun Yahya to find some real data on the con artist who is Adnan Oktar.

    There was an entire 11 video series on YouTube, Debunking Harun Yahya, but it appears that it was removed due to a fake copyright complaint.

    Richard Dawkins has his own 4 video series debunking this idiot.

    [video=youtube;FPxGDXSJZfc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPxGDXSJZfc[/video]
    [video=youtube;uyzPpJazwY8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyzPpJazwY8[/video]
    [video=youtube;rFZJsz8aJq0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFZJsz8aJq0[/video]
    [video=youtube;uxT8qhP1v7Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxT8qhP1v7Q[/video]

    Clearly, a lot of good people have devoted a considerable amount of time and energy to cleaning up problems caused by this pathological liar.
     
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    robjones Notable Member

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    #44
    My favorite miracle of the prophet is in the site the OP offered: http://www.rasoulallah.net/v2/document.aspx?lang=en&doc=286
    I'd like to stay and chat, but I've got a hot card game going with an oak stump in the backyard and it's my deal.
     
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    thanks for the links , but you make me waste my time for nothing !

    This still doesn't make it fact
     
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    trustedfire9 Active Member

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    So Israel in your belief = the prophet Mohammad in my religion ?
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    Not at all. Your avatar says you don't like Israel. A picture of Mohammad with a bomb in his hat says you think Islam promotes terrorism. You and I can argue the merits of either claim, but complaining about the picture is just silly. By the way, ChaosTrivia was also right when he mentioned a much better comparison would be to have an irreverent picture of Jesus or Buddha.
     
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    oh man you make me laugh , you can show the avatar about mohammad in your

    country but can you show my avatar about israel in your country ?

    if you do that they will kick your ass in the jail lol !

    oh about chaos's avatar it is nice see my opinion here http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1851457&page=2
     
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  9. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    I hate to break this to you, but there are muhammad pics all over the Internet. Let's recap. You start stalking Chaos, harassing him by PM every other day because you don't like his avatar. Since you never even post in P and R, this is an avatar you could have easily avoided seeing, but you obsess on the very fact that it exists (of course, ignoring the fact that it's already all over the Internet). Then, you create a thread demanding that he be banned from this forum. When that doesn't work, then you start this thread in here, letting us know we're all going to hell. Then, when no one really gives a shit about your thread, you click bomb the website of a respected member of this forum. What is funny, is that I'm guessing somewhere in your twisted little mind, you actually believe your making Islam look better. LOL.
     
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    so what ? what is about you ? do you think you make islam look worst now ?

    please this is P & R forum not The bullshit forum .
     
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    If I wanted to make Islam look bad, actually, I wouldn't need to do a thing. You're doing a great job of it, all by yourself.
     
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    i don't think so , read before comment .
     
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    Yes. I can wear a t-shirt with it. I can make a bumper sticker and drive around with it. If some assh*le decides he doesn't like my x'd out Israeli flag and threatens my well being based on his dislike, he will be charged with a crime. I know this type of personal freedom is a foreign concept to you, so disbelief won't be surprising. Let me ask you, now that you know people here can't be threatened for speaking their minds, and that child marriage wife beating are illegal, in your opinion is that a reason to hate us or like us?
     
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    oh man you make me laugh again wear a t-shirt with it and make bumper sticker and drive around with it , so you can prove that ?

    upload video on youtube about that ( in your usa by you )

    about "Let me ask you, now that you know people here can't be threatened for speaking their minds, and that child marriage wife beating are illegal"

    i can do that here now lol .

    i don't hate you or like you , you seem opened mind that is good with me , so tell me you hate Islam or hate Muslims or both ?
     
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    I don't post personal information on forums. Too many would be Jihadis making threats and starting trouble. You don't need my Youtube video anyway. Read the wiki. Not only can I drive around with an Xd out Israeli flag, I can burn it. For that matter I can burn the American flag. Granted, it wouldn't make me to popular, as most people here love this country but it remains legal.



    You can do what? Beat your wife?

    I try not to hate anything, but lets just say that Islam as an ideology I strongly dislike. Muslims themselves I have no issue with, so long as they don't beat their wives, promote the beating of ones wife as an acceptable practice, persecute non-Muslims, threaten me for exercising my rights as an individual, molest children, arrange child marriages, promote terrorism, promote ignorance over the advancement of science, yada yada yada. Take from that what you will.

    My question about like/dislike wasn't really about me individually. It was about the individual freedoms possessed in my nation which I am acquainting you with(Freedom to X out the Israeli flag, or draw Mohammad, or say your government or your religion sucks, or a woman's ability to refuse sex to her husband or divorce her husband). It was about the restrictions in our government, such as inability to beat your wife, or have child marriages, or to physically threaten someone when they do something you find offensive which is not illegal. Do these things make you like America more, hate it more, or no difference?
     
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    @obamanation , I already understand what you meant and gave you my reply that assuming or predicting differs from generalization that groups are characterized by such qualities . I hope i's you who understand .

    I don't think you went to college like 45% of the Americans , so why should I bother myself talking to lower educated people ?! All you do is Copy n Paste copy n paste to Spread hate . My advice to you is that that increases the attention to Islam , You are doing Reflexive promotion .

    Anyway , My English isn't good so don't keep taking words on me .
     
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    #57
    True, but on the bright side it's as good as your logic, math, understanding of women, and general sense of human decency.
     
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    I don't think you know anything about my Math , lol I'm in Faculty of Engineering so do you expect I entered it with bad math or physics or chemistry ? What education did you receive ? I guess just high school like 45% of your population , just a guess.
    And understanding of women , I don't think you ever lived with me to understand my beliefs about women , Short line don't prove a shit .
     
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    Actually my degree is in Finance, which is why I frequently laugh at the misuse of stats in this place.

    Fwiw, if your math were passably decent you wouldnt have stated that since 45% of a population hadnt attended college then you might generalize that to suggest that all were uneducated. Using that figure if you generalized you'd say that all were educated. Good luck on your next math test.
     
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    @robjones , Check the stats from your official sites ,and Ask your people if they went to college or not if you don't believe your stats , They will tell you Education is expensive , loans , study , etc ..
    Google it to see many lists of stats for you .
    And this generalization is more accurate than yours , If 45% of Americans aren't well educated then lets say Americans are ignorants .
    Same as you generalize that 0.00000001 percent of Muslims are terrorists then all Muslims are terrorists .
     
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