Why do women have to wear hijab

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by thegr4, Jun 22, 2010.

  1. 1234nasir

    1234nasir Well-Known Member

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    #21
    Actually for Muslims it is the order of almighty Allah.
     
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  2. ChaosTrivia

    ChaosTrivia Active Member

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    #22
    Allah is not almighty. Actually, he's a pussy. He can't even beat thunderf00t's little finger ;)
    Here is the proof:
    [video=youtube;CPJP2Q6MqtE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPJP2Q6MqtE[/video]
     
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  3. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #23
    Good! That is a much better placement for your condemnation. Now can you bring yourself to condemn the many acts of brutality and terror being committed worldwide in the name of Islam?I do find your repudiation of the Ayatollah over the sunni/shia divide a little strange, do you condemn the violence in Iraq committed between those two sects of Islam, or is it ok in your book for sunni to kill shiaa?

    I'm better traveled than some, worse than others, but I've spent some time in Muslim countries and experienced it first hand. Now how does a casual traveler run into it first hand if it isn't common? By the way, Google is an equally legitimate way of obtaining the same information. Just because the facts don't align with your opinion doesn't change their factual nature.
     
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  4. 1234nasir

    1234nasir Well-Known Member

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    #24
    Dear it is a matter of religion. I says only for Muslims that hijab is an order of our Lord "Allah". We should have to talk with cool mind and not says bad to others.
     
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  5. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #25
    Do you follow all orders of Muhammad?
     
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  6. arabSquad

    arabSquad Well-Known Member

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    #26
    The most childish closed-minded thing i've ever seen.

    Obamanation : Yes of course, Those who commit terrorist acts are indeed terrorists, And many muslims aren't happy with what they're doing. And of course not, It's not OK for sunni to kill shiaa .. Shiaa do have their strange beliefs but at the end they're still muslims.

    Where did you run into it first hand, in a community similiar to the rednecks in the US ? And those who do that are simply ignorant .. and not " Following the instructions of islam " as you may think, Those who agree to do such thing are either ignorant or in extreme poverty .
     
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  7. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #27
    And yet, the U.S. of Israel, the so-called "most civilised country in the world", also has the highest number of rape statistics in the world as well. No Muslim country has topped that list yet!

    As usual, nothing to back the statement. But let's take a closer example, i.e. Israel. How is the sex trade in Israel doing these days?
     
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  8. alexispetrov

    alexispetrov Peon

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    #28
    Rapes go largely unreported in Muslim countries; both because the victim is frequently persecuted, sometimes even forced to marry her rapist - and also because such backward countries refuse to acknowledge that a man forcing his wife to have sex is also rape.
     
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  9. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #29
    And did you cook this up out of thin air, or yet another silly Islamophobic statement of yours regarding the Muslim world? If you don't live here, don't talk about it. You were exposed pretty badly for saying "women are not allowed to drive" (only to backtrack later and say that you were referring to "certain" countries :rolleyes:). Shall I pull out the daily newspaper here and provide the news cuttings of the various rape reports here?
     
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  10. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #30
    Muslim Girl Imprisoned, Beaten And RAPED For Not Wearing Hijab

    [video=youtube;Kgd45hyFsh8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgd45hyFsh8[/video]

    It appears that the answer to the question in the title of this thread "Why do women have to wear hijab" has been effectively answered.
     
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  11. arabSquad

    arabSquad Well-Known Member

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    #31
    So according to you, Every woman that is not wearing hijab is beaten and raped in the muslim world.
    This is starting to get funny.
     
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  12. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #32
    So you are denying this? What's your argument? That she's an actress and being paid to make this all up?

    Or do you just not give a damn about the pain of a woman, because women are beneath consideration?
     
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  13. ChaosTrivia

    ChaosTrivia Active Member

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    #33
    Who called the US the most civilized country in the world? And if you had to name the most civilized country in the world. let me guess... u'll go for Saudi Arabia, or ... indonesia?

    Same tactic again. Why its useless to talk with you on anything. Israel is not related to the discussion "why do women wear hijab". But since u've mentioned, Israel is another western country and as such, exploit of women exists. However, because Israel is also an enlightened country, this is considered a crime and the police are after these people. In some islamic cultures, killing a woman by her brother is not only criminal, but is considered to be "honor".
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/abu-ghanem-women-speak-out-against-serial-honor-killings-1.213846 here. from Israel. I hope you see how my culture (=western culture) is far,far better than the culture you defend - the inferior Muslim one. This will NEVER, EVER, EVER happen in non-muslim (=civilized) places. So stop trying to make us confuse A with Z. You can continue to look for "statistics" that prove nothing.
     
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  14. masterrio

    masterrio Well-Known Member

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    #34
    Actually you are right about certain facts, u don't under stand some other logics for why a woman is raped and man gets away with it

    usually the men who commit these crimes are with higher powers (respected to being rich r influential), and these women r locked up as slaves, you can directly commit to declare women are slaves for them.
    They are born only to have sex and do house hold work, they have no right to oppose men. They are thrashed if they do and their options are very limited due to the religious rule in those parts, you don't find govts. supporting women in an closed environment,
    the other reason is women are illiterate and they have little to no knowledge on the outside world as they are locked indoors, they don't get to view the liberate channels like we do, the only channels in certain part of the gulf countries are Muslim channels, which are totally religious and its not going to help them a bit about the other end of the life.

    well, I don't think so all women raped, there are both good and bad people every where, but in gulf nations, women don't have the power to go against the men
    most of them are slaves and they are forced to do any command of her husband r head men r wat ever u call it in your region
    women need to get independence this is not going to happen with the aristocratic religious leaders commanding/ influencing the nation and the govt. with their thoughts and beliefs
     
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    alexispetrov Peon

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    #35
    You truly are ridiculously stupid at times. If you read the original statement, you'll notice it did not claim NO Muslim women can drive. Nor did it claim women in YOUR area can't drive. Just read it - it is SO simple, yet you fail to do so.

    Now, if according to your logic, the fact that I do not currently live in an Islamic country means I can't speak about it - then you need to STFU about the West. If not, you are just one fat hypocrite :)
     
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  16. arabSquad

    arabSquad Well-Known Member

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    #36
    LOL, because it's a one case, Of course I am .. There's hundreds of thousands of women who are NOT wearing the hijab and aren't " beaten nor raped" .. matter of a fact they are treated normally like any other.
    All the beating and the rape because she was protesting, leading the protest actually .. generally speaking in the middle east when you lead a protest for any reason = thrown to jail, getting raped whether you're a dude or a girl that's not wearing hijab.
     
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    masterrio Well-Known Member

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    #37
    Actually its truth mate, I am aware its difficult for you to digest this fact.
    Rapes are mostly un-reported in muslim nations, just b'coz women don't have the freedom/independence to report in general

    I am not referring to all sortta people in those nations (like malaysia) but just a higher majority of population, I guess you might be from Malaysia, Malaysia is a far different muslim nation compared to the arab countries.

    I am not trying to degrade but its a proven fact, rape doesn't directly indicate a forced sex to a un-known r un-related girl, but forced sex towards ur partner is also considered to be rape
     
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  18. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #38
    Of course.
    Reminds me of ahmadinejad saying that there are no gay people in iran.
     
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  19. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #39
    Wow, the ad hominems certainly show your desperation. Calling me names like "stupid" and such simply shows your immaturity, girl. That "driving" thing must surely be getting to you, which is why you are bitter about the fact that I do drive. Plus, I own a car to boot.

    I really pity you folk for making such a leap into arguments like to assume things. Didn't you know that when you ass-u-me, you make an ass out of u and me? How do you know that I have never been to the West before? Hint: my father was British, silly.

    So go ahead...I am still waiting for the miracle evidence whereby women in Muslim nations are being "raped every day and yet no reports were made about it". In case you haven't figured it out already, not only is rape considered a serious crime from an Islamic view, even pre-marital intercourse is strictly forbidden.

    Thank God that I am not air-headed like you.
     
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  20. alexispetrov

    alexispetrov Peon

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    #40
    Premarital sex is a crime in Islam - yup. What about when a man rapes his wife? Is this a crime?

    You didn't answer my question; you told me because I currently don't live in an Islamic country I can't speak about it - how can this be the case if you feel you can speak about the West?

    Answer it, or admit you can't and you are a hypocrite :)

    Oh, and here is why people don't often wish to report rapes in Muslim countries.

    Also this, and this, and this, and THIS.

    Thank god I am not a supporter of child rape, followed by giving said child to the rapist, like you.
     
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