Hello guys Short version.... "Some guy need video creation service. Ok, I take the job!...I did 3 versions of the same video but with differents qualities. The guy told me about the last version "Nice job, where I can send the payment..." Ok, the price was $40, that was his first offer. Ok, I sent the video and the guy tells me "I only have $30" due to Paypal issues, I'll send you the rest the first days of June. Ok..All good. But, after 16 days, he don't answer 4 PM sents and 1 profile message. And today he said "He man, stop bother me, you got lucky that I paid 30 for the video, it was not good enough good and not clear enough...Give me iTrader and you will get one also" That means "If you leave me one negative iTrader, I'll do the same" Of course I want to leave negative itrader, this dude visit this forum almost everyday and he wait 16 days to say that "Give me iTrader and you will get one also" ? (I tell him he don't want to reply my messages I'll leave a negative iT) and this is was I get "You will get one also" Basically said "Leave negative, you'll get negative iT. I don't want and I don't deserve to have negative for this. It's not my fault! But I'm sure if I leave one, I'll get one negative back. I think that was the idea over the iT, show the rest how we work. He's 92% iT user, I'm 100% iT user. I dont have any negative user comment in my visitor's page. This guys have 2 saying about "payment late, not PM response, etc". The question is: Can I remove that negative ITrader if this guys do that? Honestly. I think is not fair to have a -IT in your profile if you don't deserve it. Thanks for your time guys. PS: I have this "bad quality video" if somebody wants to see it And all the PM's.
That means if some st*id user give negative iTrader for nothing, there's nothing you can or want to do about it?
I am still un-clear about one thing here. If iTrader is "non-moderated" area then why is a Report button () there? Is it useless? Or Mods are using this statement to not to involve in this matters?
Sure, Report Bad Rating...Good question SW. I think is not so easy leave negative iTrader "Just because I want" like the user I said
Are you guys for real there's no way to get a negative iTrader removed? I had a guy I never dealt with -- a random person -- leave a negative feedback. You're saying I can't have that loser's neg taken off? And if that's the case, why is there a system for reporting feedback ratings? Sometimes I think this whole forum is an experiment to see how much bullshit a user will endure before they just say "Screw this" and leave.
There are surely ways to do that if it is a random iTrader. Just use that report button and Mods will do it. I am still waiting for a reply from Mods regarding my last post. Please do not ignore that.
Not from what I'm seeing. They banned a guy, didn't remove the negs he left. Apparently the mods on DigitalPoint never heard of the concept "fruit of a poison tree". I think if someone is challenging a neg, the person who left the neg should have to provide proof that a trade occurred. At least one PM showing that you talked about a trade. Otherwise, why even have a feedback system? The feedback system as it exists is an embarrassment.
It can actually be done on Smf boards so I believe the Itrader on this board can be moderated even though it is not an Smf board
We know it can be moderated. I mean, it's a LAMP stack website. Worst case scenario is you go right into the DB and change it. The problem is that the policy of this website and its admins and mods is to encourage scumbags to leave false feedback. And they won't fix it even when the person admits to leaving a fake feedback. In short, the mods don't give a shit how embarrassingly bad the feedback system is abused.
I love this site, this is my chance to offer my services and I thank you guys for this, honestly. But I'm sad because I want to leave a negative iTrader to that user but I can't because I don't want to have -iT back and I'm not the cheater here. I don't break our deal. That's the sad point. I'm thinking we can't remove negs iTraders and that's a bad sign here. Thanks for your time.
I think what Shannon meant is that Mods/Admins of DP is not involved in disputes due to the trades occurring. This is because they can't be sure and it will probably take too much hassle (seeing the size of DP's membership database) and time to solve each and every complaints about the itraders. So if the deal took place gone sour for any reason despite the fairness or not the Mods/Admin team can't/choose not to do anything about it. So to play safe is to do safe trades with those you trust only and take the safety precautions to ensure a fair trading BST zone. About the The report button is only used to report those giving itraders for trades not occurred. Example lets say for instance "wisdomtool was surfing some thread at BST and was reading a sales thread, then up came along deluxedon and thought it was funny to give the wise wisdomtool a shock by giving a red itrader. wisdomtool received the itrader without no trades occuring with deluxedon so he used the report button saying so and with the details. The mod that day eg: Katy saw the report alert and found out that indeed no trading took place may take action by referring this to Admins (I am not sure if the Mods are given the power at the itrader zone). Lets say the Mods are given the rights to moderate the itrader zone can remove the itrade done to wisdomtool and action will be taken towards don" - This in some ways is also relevant to how the rep moderation zone is handled. That sums pretty much and no, the story above was fictional and is serious related with either those who live offline nor in the digital world. Thank you ^^
iTraders mmmm.... Always read the user profile first, believe me and then check the iT! But sometimes anybody can leave iTraders for nothing, users like the scammers, the cheaters, etc. That happens to me and there's nothing I can do about it because if you leave a neg iT, you can have a neg iT too...And the funny part is...You can have a -iT for nothing
There had to be a thread for leaving Itrade, so make it a point to put all the details in there so that people can see what happened ... you know, if they care enough to look at your rating, surely they will take a look at the sales thread that the negative itrader took place - if they are bothered by your red rep, that is. I did read on DP that abusing the ITrader system will not be tolerated. Now that is an old thread from some time ago, but I think there was a point in that message.
This happened to me too! I got a very bad iTrader referring to a deal I was never involved in. I never even knew about the thread, had never opened it and never spoken to that user before. And out of the blue comes an iTrader painting me as a scammer when there clearly is another person postin in the thread that he is the one who bought a domain. I had no deal in this, what so ever. Either a mistake happened, usernumbers got mixed up, or someone is just giving out false iTraders just for the heck of it. This needs to stop. For a deal to be able to render iTrader, it should be that both seller and buyer would need to click a button "start deal". Like you do when you place a bid, a sign comes up saying you enter into a legal binding agreement. If the "start deal button" isn't clicked by both parties, the deal is nulled. And afterwards only those two can leave iTrader. As it is now, anyone can leave iTrader for any random user, just give any random deal thread and DP will just say they do not get involved. In all fairness, people who were never part of a deal shouldn't have to live with extremely bad iTrader. The random user was banned and is proably already back with another nickname, ready to do more trouble. For those of us who care about our nickname, we who only do safe deals, use the same nickname on many boards - it's slander to be painted as a scammer when in fact I'm not. Please consider defending innocent parties!
I am also a victim of this, and it does not help that I am a new trader on the forum, the PM's between the wrong-doer and I prove that the feedback left is false, yet for some reason, the complete fallacy of the negative feedback can not (sorry, WILL not) be removed. What on Earth is the report button there for, or hell, even a bloody feedback system in the first place, if it can be abused like this. Bloody ridiculous, I don't think I will be trading here anytime soon, and I encourage others not to as well. The staff here obviously do not give a care in the world about the situation
Forget about it SW. I'm pretty sure they will do nothing about it regarding the negative iTrader. Actually there's no use in crying about negative itrader whether it's legit or not, because most people here in DP can easily identify if someone is a scammer or not. Having 1 or 2 random/not legit negative itrader doesn't really matter. You just have to move on if someone is messing up with your itrader.
Yah, I agree. Many people just leave a negative iTrader just for fun. And Mods are just not taking any action also. I wonder, how will this work then?