Nice try at a dodge, but that verse very clearly commands Muslims to fight "those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth" -- i.e. everyone who isn't a Muslim. And fighting until when? Until peace is declared? No. There can be no peace with Islam except under two conditions, death or dhimmitude, "until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low." Islam demands that war cannot end until the non-Muslims are either living as conquered dhimmi's or dead. And some (ignorant) people ask why other people don't like Islam...
You have been brainwashed by watching programs on CNN and BBC. Ever wondered why they call it program, because it programs your thinking. I am a Muslim, I know Islam, I live Islam, you cant tell me what those verses mean by your own interpretation. Those verses are valid for a battle ground. Read the whole chapter.
Yeah, thanks kid, I have the whole book in front of me. I don't need some jackass kid on the web to read it to me. It says what it says, not what you want it to say. What you want isn't reality. Deal with it.
Is that CNN's version? Go to http://www.pakquran.com for a real Quran. English translation is available there.
The odds are too low for me tbh, that's why I'm a Satanist. If I sacrifice goats and stuff I get tortured less than youz guys, cool right?
Gee thanks, I never would have been able to find the Quran online without your help. Oh... and hey look... a command from Muhammad to enslave or murder little old me: 29. Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, noracknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of theBook, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselvessubdued. Are spaces between words makruh in Pakistani Islam?
This is the same verse I quote you earlier. Its revealed for battleground. You seem to be a very old man. How many times do I have to repeat to youuu!
Where does it say it is for the battleground? Other than your assumption, do you have anything that backs it up? And what do you have to say about the fact that Muhammad (with Allah's apparent message in a dream) married and consummated the marriage to a nine year old girl?
Hey, it was you Islamist kids who wanted to switch to your preferred Quran, like my Quran wasn't good enough for you. Both Quran's clearly state that Muslims must enslave or murder all nonbelievers. All else is taqiyya.
Killing of a single human being is as if you have killed the whole humanity that's what Islam teaches us. Islam prohibits killing of an innocent human being regardless of there religion. You call verse of Quran as taqiyya! take out half of the verse from a complete sentence and interpret it and call rest taqiyya! I think you are disappointed that CNN told you a lie. Don't worry CNN in a few years will also tell you 911 was an inside job. Don't know whether you'll be alive to see that as your an old man with your feet in the grave already.
CNN will tell us 9/11 was an inside job when the Islamic Congress announces to the world that the Quaran was just a fairytale designed to spread fear and enslave the masses. Until then we can all keep guessing about the life Muhammed lived and what caused his followers to use the same symbolism the Catholic church has adopted from ancient Egypt. Those who guess may hit it right. Those who fear their own guesses can continue trying to convince others.
That's a load of bull. Muhammad murdered many innocent victims and he had his thugs murder many more innocent victims. You might as well stop with the retarded lies -- no one is stupid enough to believe you.
Symbolism has nothing to do with worshipping. Islam is not like buddhism or hinduism or any other ism where they bow down to man made sculptures. Is that not clear enough for you. We only worship one God and his name is Allah. If you still have doubt then read the Holy Quran and find a single verse that says bow down to moon or sun or any other thing but Allah. That's my open challenge.
Here, let me Google that for you. "Quote with reference" yourself. We're not on this planet to wipe your ass for you.
I could not find any reference for that. You can not find any reference for these bullshit stories. Let me tell you an event which is a part of valid history, you can find this in any book of history. When Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) went to Madina, he signed a treaty (agreement) between the people of Madina (Jews and Christians), that who ever attacks Madina from outside, all the tribes of Madina, regardless of there religion will act as one to stop the agression. Who ever breaks this treaty shall be executed to death. That was a mutual consent between the tribes of Madina. During the battle of Uhud, many Jews betrayed. So after Uhud battle was over, as all tribes were agreed to this treaty, the Jews to whom it was proven that they betrayed were executed. It was a law that was broken and the penalty of breaking that law was death.
What in the hell? You are too stupid to use Google even with help? Could you please explain just exactly how you failed to find all of these references on the first page of the Google search results? What in the hell is wrong with you? Are you mentally incapable or just pathetically lazy? The death of Ibn Sunayna Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 19, Number 2996: Narrated Muhayyisah: The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said: If you gain a victory over the men of Jews, kill them. So Muhayyisah jumped over Shubaybah, a man of the Jewish merchants. He had close relations with them. He then killed him. At that time Huwayyisah (brother of Muhayyisah) had not embraced Islam. He was older than Muhayyisah. When he killed him, Huwayyisah beat him and said: O enemy of Allah, I swear by Allah, you have a good deal of fat in your belly from his property. Further details about this incident are given by Ibn Ishaq in his Sirat Rasul Allah as translated by A. Guillaume, The Life of Muhammad, page 369: THE AFFAIR OF MUHAYYISA AND HUWAYYISA The apostle said, 'Kill any Jew that falls into your power.' Thereupon Muhayyisa b. Mas`ud leapt upon Ibn Sunayna, a Jewish merchant with whom they had social and business relations, and killed him. Huwayyisa was not a Muslim at the time though he was the elder brother. When Muhayyisa killed him Huwayyisa began to beat him, saying, 'You enemy of God, did you kill him when much of the fat on your belly comes from his wealth?' Muhayyisa answered, 'Had the one who ordered me to kill him ordered me to kill you I would have cut your head off.' He said that this was the beginning of Huwayyisa's acceptance of Islam. The other replied, 'By God, if Muhammad had ordered you to kill me would you have killed me?' He said, 'Yes, by God, had he ordered me to cut off your head I would have done so.' He exclaimed, 'By God, a religion which can bring you to this is marvellous!' and he became a Muslim. I was told this story by a client of B. Haritha from the daughter of Muhayyisa from Muhayyisa himself. Muhayyisa composed the following lines on the subject: My mother's son blames me because if I were ordered to kill him I would smite his nape with a sharp sword, A blade white as salt from polishing. My downward stroke never misses its mark. It would not please me to kill you voluntarily Though we owned all Arabia from north to south. The Myth: Muhammad Would Never Approve of Murder “Kill any Jew that falls into your power!†This was the command that Muhammad gave to his people following the murder of another Jew named Ka’b al-Ashraf. From the nighttime assassination of Asma bint Marwan (a poet and mother of five) to the Christians killed at Tabuk, this is but one of many examples from the Sira that refute the silly idea that the prophet of Islam never approved of murder. Following the gory assassination of al-Ashraf, Muhammad wished to assert his dominance in Medina by instilling terror into the hearts of the local Jewish population. Many of the locals were having second thoughts about allowing the Muslim immigrants into their community, which seemed particularly unwise in retrospect given that Muhammad had already begun killing and evicting the original residents only eighteen months after arriving. Muhammad’s solution was to intimidate the local populace, particularly the two surviving Jewish tribes (the Nadir and Qurayza). Gleeful over the successful assassination of the Nadir leader, al-Ashraf, the prophet of Islam immediately exhorted his men to a random murder spree that would further narrow down the opposition through terror and conversion. Following Muhammad’s mandate to kill "any Jew that falls into your power," a Muslim follower stabbed his Jewish business partner to death. The Muslim's brother was initially horrified by the crime, since they were not only on friendly terms with the victim, but the merchant was integral to their own livelihood: The apostle said, “Kill any Jew that falls into your power.†Thereupon Muhayyisa lepat upon Ibn Sunayna, a Jewish merchant with whom they had social and business relations, and killed him. Huwayyisa was not a Muslim at the time, though he was the elder brother. When Muhayyisa killed [the Jew] Huwayyisa began to beat him, saying, “You enemy of God, did you kill him when much of the fat on your belly comes from his wealth?†Muhayyisa answered, “Had the one who ordered me to kill him ordered me to kill you I would have cut your head off.†This was the beginning of Huwayyisa’s acceptance of Islam… [Huwayyisa] replied exclaimed, “By God, a religion which can bring you to this is marvelous!†and he became a Muslim. (Ibn Ishaq 554) The unbelieving brother is quite impressed with Islam’s ability to influence a man even to kill his own family on Muhammad's order. As such, he accepts the “Religion of Peace†on the spot (assuming his conversion was not out of self-preservation). Becoming a Muslim was, in fact, the only way to ensure that one wasn’t killed by Muhammad’s men at the time. Murder in Islam is defined as a person killing another member of their own class (see the Law of Equality, Qur’an 2:178). Whereas a Muslim is prohibited from killing another (true) Muslim, Muhammad found plenty of excuses to kill non-Muslims over non-capital offenses – as this, the murder of Ibn Sunayna the Jewish merchant, proves. The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism Muhammad set the example for antisemitism. The oldest extant biography of Muhammad, that by Ibn Ishaq as transmitted by Ibn Hisham, is replete with the Prophet's evident hatred of Jews. He had individual Jews assassinated if he felt that they had somehow insulted or disobeyed him. When Muhammad gave the command “Kill any Jew that falls into your power,†one of his followers, Ibn Mas'ud, assassinated Ibn Sunayna, a Jewish merchant. Prophetic Career of Muhammad Ibn Sunayna According to the Hadith (Sunan Abu Dawud 19.2996) and Sirat Rasul Allah, Muhammad ordered that all Jews who fell into his followers’ power should be killed. So, Muhayyisa jumped Ibn Sunayna, a Jewish merchant whom he had had close relations with, and killed him. The death of Ibn Sunayna Narrated Muhayyisah: The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said: If you gain a victory over the men of Jews, kill them. So Muhayyisah jumped over Shubaybah, a man of the Jewish merchants. He had close relations with them. He then killed him. At that time Huwayyisah (brother of Muhayyisah) had not embraced Islam. He was older than Muhayyisah. When he killed him, Huwayyisah beat him and said: O enemy of Allah, I swear by Allah, you have a good deal of fat in your belly from his property. Further details about this incident are given by Ibn Ishaq in his Sirat Rasul Allah as translated by A. Guillaume, The Life of Muhammad, page 369: THE AFFAIR OF MUHAYYISA AND HUWAYYISA The apostle said, 'Kill any Jew that falls into your power.' Thereupon Muhayyisa b. Mas`ud leapt upon Ibn Sunayna, a Jewish merchant with whom they had social and business relations, and killed him. Huwayyisa was not a Muslim at the time though he was the elder brother. When Muhayyisa killed him Huwayyisa began to beat him, saying, 'You enemy of God, did you kill him when much of the fat on your belly comes from his wealth?' Muhayyisa answered, 'Had the one who ordered me to kill him ordered me to kill you I would have cut your head off.' He said that this was the beginning of Huwayyisa's acceptance of Islam. The other replied, 'By God, if Muhammad had ordered you to kill me would you have killed me?' He said, 'Yes, by God, had he ordered me to cut off your head I would have done so.' He exclaimed, 'By God, a religion which can bring you to this is marvellous!' and he became a Muslim. I was told this story by a client of B. Haritha from the daughter of Muhayyisa from Muhayyisa himself. Muhayyisa composed the following lines on the subject: My mother's son blames me because if I were ordered to kill him I would smite his nape with a sharp sword, A blade white as salt from polishing. My downward stroke never misses its mark. It would not please me to kill you voluntarily Though we owned all Arabia from north to south. The Islamic Psycho In Sunaan Abu Dawud (hadith) we read Book 19, Number 2996: Narrated Muhayyisah: The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said: If you gain a victory over the men of Jews, kill them. So Muhayyisah jumped over Shubaybah, a man of the Jewish merchants. He had close relations with them. He then killed him. At that time Huwayyisah (brother of Muhayyisah) had not embraced Islam. He was older than Muhayyisah. When he killed him, Huwayyisah beat him and said: O enemy of Allah, I swear by Allah, you have a good deal of fat in your belly from his property. END OF QUOTE To confirm that a Muslim must kill the Jews when opportunity comes is further supported from the biography of Mohammad. The most authentic biography of the peaceful prophet is the ' Kitab Sirat rasuli llah' written by Ibn Ishak/Ibn Hisham and Tabari. This biography had been translated by Alfred Guillaume (Biography of Prophet Mohammad Published by Oxford University Press). In this book on page 369 Guillaume translates: "The apostle said, "Kill any Jew that falls into your power." Thereupon Muhayyisa b. Masud leapt upon Ibn Sunayna, a Jewish merchant with whom they had social and business relations, and killed him. Huwayyisa was not a Muslim at the time though he was the elder brother. When Muhayyisa killed him Huwayyisa began to beat him, saying, 'You enemy of God, did you kill him when much of the fat on your belly comes from his wealth?' Muhayyisa answered, 'Had the one who ordered me to kill him ordered me to kill you I would have cut your head off.'" The messages from the above sources are enough to prove that a Jew does not have to break any Islamic law or Islamic practice to be killed. The mere fact that he is a Jew is a valid reason for any Muslim to kill him if an opportunity comes.
Only authentic hadits are those by Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim. The rest are filled with unauthentic hadits which have no proof.