NY-based Aid Activist releases new video evidence of the Flotilla massacre

So now you call that propaganda piece "hard salient evidence"?
Why they didn't showed the momment when Israelis started to shot?
Every single thing what happened on that boat is even filmed or photographed yet we only saw fragments which supports official Israeli story. Hard evidence my ass.

 

israeli lies have been exposed. All their propaganda videos were all lies, as has been dissected by the video analysis of their supposed "evidence".

-- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW2R4Iw5afc

Please, please see it.

 

That was a pretty desperate please, please, please

So I saw it.
and my repose is: LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!
I didn't see any Israeli shooting in the vid, did you?
Sorry dude. this does not match the "hard salient evidence", where you do actually see in great abundance of terrorists brutally beating up IDF soldiers armed with toys, cutting off iron pieces from the ship in preparation for violence, and expressing own death wishes, as well as calling : "go back to auschwitz" in radio transmission etc'. These are the facts. Your video does not show undisputed facts. Not even a single one.
But the beginning of the movie is particularly funny: Normal people, when shot at, would go to the floor or run to the lower decks. I least I would ! (speaking from personal experience.....)
But on the other hand, we have to remember that these are self-proclaimed martyr wannabes...... oh, I mean, peace activists..... so you just can't know


Here is what happened gauearuhaer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vCIR2N7V6c . This video is based not on allegations and "testimonies", but on facts. If you can't match it with raw footages as the IDF did (and the stupid terrorists who photoed themselves preparing the weapons...- Darwinism in action.....), stop wasting our time, and go back to the barbaric country from which you hailed. (saudi arabia?)

 

All I can say is: LMAO! You want us to believe that those "radio transmissions" aer actaully authentic?
Seriously, get back to IDF propaganda school.
It's funny how you simply refuse to comment why didn't IDF showed everything. They have something to hide? I believe so.

 

. The hate clearly displayed on the flotilla deck does not fit with a "go back to Auschwitz" chant in the radio. But I know that this line of reasoning does not impress you. For you, the evidence (interviews and interviews of relatives and personal histories) clearly show that they were humanitarian aid workers and peace activists, right? People whom you would let your kids play with. After all, they declared themselves as jew-haters, so this makes them automatically your friends.
Anyway, even if the tranmission is a fake (never seen on the official IDF you tube channel - prove me wrong), it doesn't matter, as they are the absolutely least important piece of evidence. (do you under the 'scientific'/'legal' meaning of the word evidence?, because your Muslim friends here clearly don't)

What is it that you still need/want to see?

 

Seriously, what makes you sure that those are authentic? Because IDF told you that? You already forgot how you called me an idiot for another lie coming from IDF and which you blindly followed? You have no arguments so,as usual, to get back to old Israeli whine tactis: they all are terrorists, you hate us yadda yadda yadda.
If they were terrorists why they didn't kill anyone? You want me to believe that a terrorists, who are happy in killing civilians, missed the chance to kill israeli soldeirs? Yeah riiiiiiiiiiight!
I guess these kind of reasononing doesn't impress you at all. You have your IDF story and you will stick to it until they change (again) their story.

Everything. Is there any reason why they showed only few minutes of actually violence on boat?
What they have to hide? Did (or will) they provided all vids and photos to nay independent organisation in the world? That what would everyone sane do if they have nothing to hide.
This way we only see what IDF want us to see.
Let them show complete footage of violence on boat if they have nothing to hide.

 

Sinking the ship would likely have saved lives, prevented injuries to Israeli soldiers, and prevented future endeavors. I'm all about saving lives.

Now now, lets be fair. You sent "protesters" to deal with an army, not the other way around. The arrmy(more accurately the navy) was there long before the "protesters" arrived. I agree it is about as idiotic as playing on the freeway and expecting not to get hit. I see the concept is escaping you which makes you a bit of a genetic outlier for having survived so long.

LMAO. Dude, we have had statistically relevant numbers of people in our society buying into bullshit since the moment our nation was created. Our shared core values for freedom of speech, and rights of the individual are what hold us together regardless of race or heritage. Those same values are why we support Israel over Hamas. Your opposition to those values are probably the reason you do not.

No. The PLO defeated themselves by seriously considering the idea of peaceful co-existence with Israel. Hamas destroyed them for it.

 

Next time, try to think before you write. You can't win both ways, namely, have no terrorists killed when the soldiers decided to pull the knee guns in self defense as well as have Israeli soldiers killed. you need to pick one outcome. The better outcome is what we saw. One soldier had to undergo 3 complicated brain surgeries that week (first one seen rolling off the chopper). He is a plant now because he experience a lot of peace and love. The Israeli commandos are supernatural, their training is 3 years and they learn crazy things. Only 1 out of 100 volunteers make it to the end of the training. (combat pilots: 1 out of 350). Its not that easy to kill these people, especially not if you are a low life terrorist who can't even turn off the ship's security cameras that frame you.

Yes there is. You are a smart person right? you tell me the reason.


Moreplayerz.com, meet your new friends and heroes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOvxNSlmMQU . America is proud of you dude. And let me remind you another fact you hate to remember: the mavi marmara did not carry humanitarian aid of any kind.

 

Hmmmmmmmm more fairy tales coming from you... I'm not suprised thou. At least 3 of yours "supernatural,whos training is 3 years and they learn crazy thing", were down and IF they wanted to kill them they would be dead. Don't tell me, you didn't saw pics published in tirkish news paper!
One of them shows "supernatural" israeli commando whining. Well, if he is one of 350 than we can only imagine what kind of "supernaturals" are the rest 349...
But the main point is: at least 3 of commandos were defeated and IF anyone on that boat wanted to kill them they would be dead.

I can only asume that they won't show everything beacuse they have something to hide like how some of people on boat have been killed. If someone attacked me with deadly weapon and I shooted him in selfdefence I see no reasons not to show vid of that event.

Those are friends of your mommy. Go ahead and ask her.
Yup. on Marmari there was only WOMD which they got from Iraq.

 

Terrorist actually believes that they by killing innocent people saving lives of their own peple,nation or groups.

Actually Israel was aware of the situation and you now dancing around the fact that Israel send commandos and equiped them with paintball guys! That fact shows us that Israel was aware of possible violence and yet they decided to send military instead of elite forces they have to deal with protestors (and they have mor ethan enough of those!).

All I can say on this is LMAO. Yeah, I'm against apartheid and that's why I am against Israel. I know you share say values like apartheid is with them. Not so long ago you had apartheid in US, didn't you? Btw it's funny for me to see someone supporting Israel and coming from US. US and Israel shares same values only on paper. Please, tell me, where in US you have apartheid? Or where in US a person is not allowed to speach? Do you know that Israel few weeks ago didn't allowed a clow to enter Israel? LOL I doubt that's the value you guys from US supports.

Anyway, I would be worried if 45,000,000 of people in my country supports Hamas. Think about it if you can.

There ya go.

 

Give it another shot. If you'll be wrong again, I will have to "reveal" you the obvious answer. Obvious just for some of us, I guess...

bah, I am a bit shocked to see that you took offense from my remark about your friends. Fact is, 100% of your remarks on the flotilla event contained criticism of Israel and no criticism of the blood-thirsty terrorists at all. Wouldn't it be natural to conclude that you consider them to be a positive factor, perhaps even friends?

Israel just wanted to make sure there aren't any weapons on board. The threat is not theoretical, we already apprehended several weapon ships. You acknowledged in a previous post that Israel does have the right to prevent weapon smuggling to Gaza. So what is your case actually? why are you making a fool out of yourself, even more than you really are?

 

Yeah, obvious only to israelis and their ass kissers...

Why the soldier who killed two innocent woman isn't "blood-thirsty terrorists"? And why "blood-thirsty terrorists" didn't killed anyone? Why don't you call them criminals? Double standars perhaps?

The guy who took time to debunk article from the onion calling me a fool!?!
Now I heard everything on DP!

 

simple. because they were given orders to go there to protect their country. They did not "dream for this moment and hope to get lucky and kill or die". Were the US soldiers in Vietnam "blood-thirsty terrorists"?

WHY THE FUCK AM I WASTING MY TIME WITH YOUR WORLD CLASS STUPIDITY?
enough is enough...I'm signing off...

 

Well, keep us showing your true colors. Sooner or later you will show them in full and then by by hater.

 

Chaos, moreplayerz is just another provocateur. Don't let him get to ya.
It is indeed frustrating to see such dishonesty and ignorance, though.
Moreplayerz, still afraid to comment on that thread about muslim education?

 

You just described all Israelis in R&P section of this forum.

 

Nah, I never got the vibe that you get frustrated from the posts made here. You seem to enjoy it. One of those "I'll disagree just for the sake of disagreeing" people.

 

Dishonesty and ignorance doesn't frustate me at all you,and other Israelis, can keep up good work.

 

If Israel has nothing to hide about the flotilla incident (as many believe in this forum what Israel did is right) they why don't they release all the videos they captured from the passengers of those ships. It will clear their name if Israel's sides of the story matches with the all the videos taken by the passengers. Its just that simple.

If Israel is innocent, It shouldn't be hard for them to release all those cameras, cards, laptops with data intact to clear their name.

 

MOreplayerz, I have to agree with Chaos on this one. Your stupidity is world class. Fortunately for you, I have more patience than him so I'll give you some more of my time and try and use small words.

Wonderful! You now speak for terrorist beliefs! Actually, I think you've made that clear on many other threads so it really isn't a revelation. Now could you quote some terrorists, other than yourself, who can explain this belief?

I know you are easily distracted by shiny objects, so let me bring you back to the history of this conversation. You claim Israel sent the military to deal with protesters. I pointed out the Military was already there enforcing a military blockade(duh, who else would enforce a military blockade). You respond here by again saying the Israelis sent the military to deal with protesters(Do you think repeating the same thing makes an argument?). You mention a useless and tangential fact that Israel has forces specifically trained to deal with protesters. So what? Israel has forces trained to deal with domestic abuse. Should they have sent them out to deal with the Muslims abusing their wives on the boat(The one trying to break a military blockade)? Israel has forces that deal specifically with pedophiles and child abusers. Should they have....

Well, I won't go into it, but most rational people get the point by now. As entertainment, let me predict your response to this:

"MorePlayers: Yah but Israel sent the military to their military blockade deal with protesters! The peace loving terrorists on that boat were trying to save lives and this is how Israel responds?"

Sorry if my prediction is wrong, I have only your historical responses to go on. Please respond with the real entertainment.

Sure! I'm against criminals! That's why I hate Mexicans! I'm against pedophilia, that's why I am against all Muslim states! Weren't you just mentioning something about generalizations? My little quip is probably not sinking in for you, and I know I promised to use small words so let me boil it down for you. I just pointed out you are a hypocrite.

What, are you referring to having one set of rules for Muslims, and another for everyone else? That kind of Apartheid? Intolerance of the religion of others, unless they pay a tax that only those under said apartheid have to pay? My little quip is probably not sinking in for you, and I know I promised to use small words so let me boil it down for you. I just pointed out you are a hypocrite.

Ignoring the scurilous and hypocritical accusations of apartheid you are hurling at Israel which I already addressed above, I would direct you to UK immigration, who refuse to permit Geert Wilders to enter. Every country makes their own decisions about who to allow to enter and who not. It seems I've seen you hypocritically arguing the other side of that argument on other threads. Again, refer back to the several other spots in this post where I pointed out you are a hypocrite.

Another source of frustration for Chaos. You see, I already addressed those people in my earlier post. I won't address them again here because you have my earlier post to refer to. Simply ignoring what I wrote and reiterating your point makes it seem you are mentally challenged.

I just pointed out several times how you ignore the facts presented to you in the course of these conversations, but I thought this was a particularly excellent example, so I'll go into it. You literally clipped off the entire history of the PLO and took a single word from the sentence as if it substantiated your position. You could ask the question, "Was Hitler defeated because the Jews fought back during WWII" to which the response might begin with the word "no", and you would clip that word out and apply it to some ridiculous argument about how the Jews should not have fought back. Now obviously that type of argumentation does not have any validity, but I have to wonder if you actually believe it yourself. So explain it to me please. Is it your own stupidity, or your assumption that everyone who reads what you put to print is stupid? Which is it?