Find out why Al-Qaeda issuing a 60 million dollar bounty on this coptic priest

Outside of your nonsensical rambling about western nation, including Israel, having religious leadership or carrying on a holy war, I do think you make a couple good points.

1) Essentially, you consider Jihad of Moses, David, and Solomon against disbelievers a right and proper course of action
2) You consider those who respond to jihad with violence are carrying out Justice.

Now you just have to reconcile those beliefs with your constant whining about Israel thinking they are the "chosen ones" and their alleged "holy war" against Islam. If you think holy war is good, why do you whine about it? If you think violent response to jihad is proper, why do you complain about bombs falling in Afghanistan and Pakistan? By your way of thinking, Israel should just absorb Palestine and call it a "Jewish state". By your way of thinking, we (the US) should just carpet bomb the countries hosting people who promoted the Jihad that created 9-11. We could start with Afghanistan, but move on to Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Palestine, Syria, Lebanon,.., ... . You get the point. All good in your book right? I don't want to hear any whining.

Of course this isn't what you really believe. What you really believe is that the one true faith "Islam" has every right to wage jihad against unbelievers (Especially Jews). Jihad by any religion other than Islam is violent oppression of the poor, innocent, peace loving Islamic people. What you really believe is that any violent response to Islamic jihad by Jews(or anyone else) is an excuse for more violence. It further confirms my belief that being a hypocrite comes first and foremost if one wishes to convert to Islam.

What you are saying gives evidence to something I think Sadaam Hussein understood very well. Muslims not only understand but also respect rule by brutal violence.

 

Yes, of course.
Even your hypocrit country believe the same thing by the way. This is why they support Israel.

Had your governments refused the right of Moses, David and Solomon, peace be upon them, to wage a war against other people in the name of God, and taking the land from them in such jihadist manner, it would not support Israel at all.

Note: since you are narrow minded thing, and you are fast in judging other than youself as hypocrits, I need to clarify something here.

You justify this way the jews first entered Juresalem to justify their today's occupation of the holy land.
You are not true believers in God, but rather true dogs for Israel.

We Justify that way the jews first entered Juresalem because it is God's land, and we believe that we all must worship Him and follow His Rules, and since it is God's land, He gives it to whom He wishes.

God wrote it for the Israelis since they were the only people (in that area at least) who worshipped God, while the Canaaniates were disbelievers having no right in the holy land.

But when the jews disobeyed the Commandments of God, God forbade it for them, too, and caused them to be lost in the desert. Thus, the rules of God is obvious. This land is for His obedient slaves.

We don't support the former jews because we are americans or dogs for the current jews, we support them for they had the truth and they were the obedient slaves for God.

Now jews are His enemies who are against His prophets, peace be upon them, such as Jesus and Mohammad. They are no longer obedient slaves of God, yet they use that excuse (i.e. God wrote it for us).

We justify only the believers who struggle (do jihad) for the Truth, not the criminals who spread falsehood and try to destroy the Commanments of God and His right in Ruling His Earth and His creatures.

No. They are practicing an expected work, eventhough it is wrong. Criminals ususally resist the police who make Jihad against them, but we don't say criminals have the right to do so.

Moses, David, and Solomon, peace be upon them, were truthful, while Paestinians were wrongful people.

Today, Palestinians are truthful, while jews are wrongful, so the jews are to be destroyed and driven out of the holy land.

One by one. This is justice, not Obamanation's charachter (i.e. hypocricy).

 

For those of you playing along at home who happen to be unmarried, let me assure you, he didnt get any that night. Just take my word for it.

 

So if I am understanding you correctly:

• Jihad by the Jews was ok when you considered them gods people, but now that you consider them not to be gods people, it is not OK
• Now that the Muslims are gods people Jihad is ok for them and them alone
• Resisting Jihad(fighting back) by the unbelievers(non-muslims) is not OK, but expected
• God deeded the holy land (The area around Jerusalem) to his followers, who are the muslims(according to you)
• We know all this to be true because god(allah) said as much in Qur'an and Hadith

Did I leave anything out?

 

Thought I'd boil that down.

Most of your post was prelude, its only purpose, attempt to rationalize the line where you admit favoring genocide.

Thanks for dropping the mask long enough for us to glimpse the raw racist hatred beneath.

 

The preceeding message was sponsored by Al-Qaeda.

 

The question should be how did Al Qaeda arrange 60 million dollar??? a big cash. how are giving them?

as the whole world know Muslims countries are poor. then who are giving them such a big amount

 

Actually, while the general population in Muslim countries are poor, the leaders remain quite rich, especially in oil states. One might say each and every one of you went with a little less falafel so that we could have 9-11. Much more difficult to pull off in any Democratic form of government.

 

Al Qaeda is quite well supported financially by the roughly one and a half billion Muslims on Earth.

Almost every poll of Muslims shows strong minority support for Al Qaeda -- and that huge minority seems very willing to donate funds and children towards the creation of a global Islamic caliphate.

 

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There is no problem for you when the it is done by the Israelis at the time of Moses, David, and Solomon, peace be upon them, but it is a problem when it is done by non Israelis believing in Jesus and Mohammad, peace be upon them, yes?

I hope one of the christians here would do a favour and bring us the story of David, peace be upon him, in the Bible and what he did against the citizens of Juresalem at that time.

Here is the list of the jews who should be destroyed and driven out of the holy land:
1. Israeli governments except some people I don't wish to say who they are so that the mosad in this forum will not use them against the muslims because Islam forbid their killing.
2. The religious rabbis who inspire their army that what they do of crimes is God's commandments.
3. Those who support the Israeli army with money and defend their crimes because those who support the criminals are criminals, too.

As for the jews who are peaceful, they will be protected by the saying of prophet Mohammad, peace be upon him, "who ever kill a jew or a christian, I will be his opponent in the day of Judgment" May God guide such ones to the Truth and join them to the rightous people in Heaven.

 

polite teen is a fine example of a radical islamist. We can give him credit for spewing his ignorance and hatred publicly rather than hide and be afraid to speak what's really on their mind like most of the muslims here on DP do.

 

And just how do you propose to prove the unprovable?

Heck, I'd just be happy if you could learn to live in peace like the other religions do.

 

I think all muslims are clearly supporting Palestinian people publicaly.

We are confident of ourselves. We are not the wrong doers.

 

I'm not being the least bit facetious when I say, thanks for your response and your confirmation of my correct understanding. What you are saying is logical. It makes sense. It doesn't contradict at all with the things we see going on world wide, and other things you have put to print, which might make you the second least hypocritical Muslim I've seen on this forum. It may be a bit hypocritical in saying only Muslims can wage a just war, since they are god's "chosen" ones, even if the war is one of conquest and oppression of other cultures, but that is not you being hypocritical, it is your book.

As frightening as everything you put to print should be to any non-Muslim world wide, I still prefer it to the never ending nonsensical double speak we get daily from people like Awinsjclarke. The writing is so conflicted from sentence to sentence, I seriously wonder if she has lost her mind.

Anyway, keep it up Polite Teen. Your honesty is refreshing and needed.

 

- My country's closest ally is the UK. We had two shooting wars with 'em to gain/retain our independence about 200 years ago.
- My family tree includes men on both sides of the US Civil war about 150 years ago.
- My country has cordial relations with Japan & Germany. Several of my uncles died in wars against those countries 60 years ago.
- My closest friend is a guy I had several rather brutal fist-fights with when I was in high school.
- My wife and I were separated a few years ago and had seriously heated arguments, but now get along fine under the same roof.

Do I sound like the guy to ask if you're looking for outrage about actions that took place over 2000 years ago?

Get over it already. If you guys weren't mentally mired in the wrong century you might overcome your anger issues.

 

Awesome post RJ.

It reminds me of the old saying "You don't make peace with your friends, you make peace with your enemies." Some blockheads can't imagine making peace with their enemies because well... they are enemies!"

My own thickheaded relatives in Northern Ireland are almost as bad as the Muslims in this regard, but there have been positive moves in Ireland over the last couple of decades.

 

I look at polite teen's posts and I don't see anger issues. I see an eerie calm belief. His book says wage jihad and purge the Jews of the Holy Land. His book says convert the Unbelievers or they pay Jizyah. Like Hitlers men, he is only following orders, except he believes his orders come straight from god. The whole affront at this Muslim value, or that 2000 year old grievance seems to be just an excuse for what polite teen phrased into some very clear marching orders (orders I have yet to see any Muslim on this forum, save Babak, dispute).

 

Sorry, I have been away from the thrill for a while. I hope I can catch up with this thread. Well, I appreciate your comments & allow me to explain.

When you discuss the old testament, keep in mind that its actually "old" and after Jesus' coming and placement of "New testament" - Rules have changed a bit.
Otherwise, you'd see us Christians doing the old habits such as sacrificing a lamb to ask for forgiveness and so on. Therefore, shedding of blood stopped.
There was no purpose in the old testament other than following the words of God very strictly. The loving side of God did not show as much.
Life in the holy spirit was not introduced in the old testament but eternal life, love, holy spirit and peacefulness were all reflected in the new testament. That is what we are following.

This is a very weak argument. Why? Well, God is love but God is fair. Just like a generous King ruling a country. Would you expect him to treat a thief as well as a hard working civilian? Of course not. You have to appreciate heaven is God's place to be shared with CLEAN souls. I would not say disbelievers go to hell but to put it more clearly; those who do not follow the words of God, will not end up in a good place. It's up to God's judgment where to put them; however, signs of the end mentioned in the bible indicate that the word of God shall be heard & spread across the globe- in this case, nobody will be left with the excuse "I never heard".

Many of the conquests taken were already promised by God. In fact, God was fighting beside them but under no circumstances their fights were from their own decision but they were commanded into the promise land. Mohammed's conquests were mainly due enemies of Mohammed who did not believe he was a prophet from God - Those were mainly Jews and Christians and other tribes.
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah or the Last Day, who do not forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, or acknowledge the Religion of Truth (Islam), (even if they are) People of the Book (Christians and Jews), until they pay the Jizyah tribute tax in submission, feeling themselves subdued and brought low."

Muhammed actually had about 30 wives or something (counting divorced ones) which brings me to this point:

The Quran (considered a word from God) limited the maximum number of wives to four. Is your prophet above his words of God or was he disobeying ?

So you call giving a 6 year old child to a 52 years old man a blessing? With what? You're as blind as her parents by claiming its a blessing. Now, a marriage is a partnership. Both parties must agree. Whether it was her parents will or not to give her away...What about the child?

What about His marriage to Zainab - His daughter in law ? Was that holy too?
The bible taught us: "A man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh”. Compare that with what was given in the Quran and Mohammed's actions.

Regarding Abraham...that verse will explain everything:
Pharaoh called Abraham and said, "What is this that you have done to me? Why
didn't you tell me that she was your wife? Why did you say, 'She is my sister,' so that I
took her to be my wife? Now therefore, see your wife, take her, and go your way."

 

True. Polite Teen is one of the few Islamic posters here who has actually read and understands the Quran.

It's just too bad that what he reads correctly are commands to murder or enslave everyone who is not a Muslim male.