NY-based Aid Activist releases new video evidence of the Flotilla massacre

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  1. iggysick

    iggysick Guest

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    #21
    You know how you feel so go ahead and answer your own question.
     
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  2. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #22
    I know you are but what am I? Is that in the "Islamic answers to logical statements" propaganda book? I only ask because it is a favorite of Awinsjclarke as well.
     
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  3. gauharjk

    gauharjk Notable Member

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  4. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #24
    Its a depressing situation, but justice will eventually prevail. The recent world reaction to the aid flotilla massacre proves it.
     
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    #25
    There's no point in talking with you if you post in every single post "you support terrorism" bla bla. There's no logic in your posts at all. All you post is "you are terrorist supporter, you are muslim, you are idiot, you support flying planes into buildings...". All rubbish and only answer to such rubbish can be same thing from my side.
    You and logic? Seriously... When I pointed few unlogic things from boat you guys didn't have any answer 'cept your usaul yousupportterrorismandjewsaregodschoosenpeopleandtheycantdoanywrong. That kind of answers you probably get from "AIPAC answers to logical statments".

    Btw ME quartet started to supporting terrorism too: Pressure on Israel to lift Gaza blockade
    Of course, now you will (as usual!) interpret that article and what ME quartet asks from Israel your way to fit into your "logic".
    Lifting blockade doesn't mean that anything can go into Gaza! Only idiots can claim that.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #26
    More comedy. From your link of weapons used in Israeli raid:
    LOL

    I hear ya. It gets old. Blah blah blah, terrorist this terrorist that. Hamas states they want t wipe out Israel based on some satanic shit in the Qoran about killin jews and you support them, but after a while it all gets kind of blurry right? I mean if we can just bombard people with the idea that Nazis are people too, maybe we can get past the whole genocide thing cause its just a big drag. How many times do we really need to hear about Aushwitz? Was it really that big of a deal? And Hamas, so what if they want to exterminate jews. Must we really call them evil or terrorists? And people who support Hamas, aren't they really just humanitarians? Can't we all just get along?

    Read the article. The are asking for them to eliminate some of the banned items, not the blockade.
     
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  7. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #27
    I don't get your point. You and the other Israeli apologists did say that paintball guns were used by the IOF, so what is the problem with this? In any case, if you have an issue with the blog post you can always take it up with the author.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #28
    The comedy comes from calling a paintball gun a "weapon". Don't sweat it. It wasn't an IQ test.
     
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    #29
    How I do that? I really want to hear that! Because I blame Israel form what happened on that boat?
    Really, give me explanation how I support Hamas! I'm all ears!

    So? if you block some items and them allow them how would you call that? Elimination?
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #30
    1) Earlier post threatening more airplanes for continuing the blockade
    2) Frothing at the mouth for justice against Israelis when they used lethal force in the enforcement of their legal blockade
    3) A clearly implied, if not stated, desire that the blockade be dropped which will permit the flow of weapons to Hamas.

    I'd call it a change in policy. I personally believe the blockade is also being used to cut off Hamas economically, a desirable goal for against any terrorist organization. Similar actions are being taken against Iran by the UN as we speak. Its a tough situation because Gaza is filled with the idiots who elected Hamas to power, so trying to effect a regime change won't stick. If It were me, I'd send boatloads of crappy weapons and questionable ammunition. Let them start the conflict you know they are itching for, and occupy the place properly.
     
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  11. Ibn Juferi

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    #31
    That's called "half-reading something" which was explained in the following passage:

    Like I said, try again.
     
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    #32
    it's your interpretation what I've said and I truly believe in what I said and will repeat it again: if you preach brutality than don't whine when you get another plane into a building.

    Even you admited that hey fucked up and they did. So 45,000,000 US citizens from a poll I've posted also supports Hamas? lol

    hahahahahaha where did I do that? Where the hell I've said or implied anything close to that?!?

    Seriously, right here you showed all your "logic".

    Your way of thinking is exactly what supports Hamas and anyone similar to them. Some day you will understand that.
     
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    #33
    Obamanation, I wonder how much more patience you have left to discuss anything with moreplayerz.
    It seems that you are wasting your energies in explaining your point of view (very clear and understandable), while moreplayerz is just running around in circles and as if deliberately trying to be dishonest.
     
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    #34
    Yeah right. if I don't agree with your point of view I must be "dishonest terrorist supporter". Carry on kid. Nothing new on eastern front.
     
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    #35
    You're just making yourself look bad overall. You can disagree with my point of view, on the other hand you can disagree just to disagree and call people here kids.
    When evidence is presented to you, you conveniently question its integrity. ANY evidence that doesn't contribute to your agenda. I'm not saying it's a bad thing to question things - it's a good thing. But you do it in a very childish and dishonest way. If the IDF spokesperson would say that evidence shows that 1+1 as we know it equals 2 - you'd question it. Just because it's the IDF spokesperson.
    You have no real interest in actual facts and evidence. If you did - we would have seen drastically different replies from you.

    Quite a few people here think that you are dishonest, it shows in your replies. Are you offended by the fact that you are a terrorist supporter? Stop being one then.
     
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    #36
    Yes, simply because it's a proven fact thatIDF lie to cover their fuck ups.

    And all those people who think that I am dishonest are actually those who blindly support Israel!

    That's a not fact. It's only in your head and heads of hc Israeli supporters. Read definition of fact.
     
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    #37
    lol that "blood spray" on the ladders is paint from the paintball guns
     
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    #38
    Care to provide me some evidence backing up the claim that shooting a paint gun in public would carry any criminal charges at all? Do you really believe such bullsh*t? I used to shoot my neighbors kid in the street with a paint ball gun. Now what do you think would have happened if I had hit him with a steel pipe or stabbed him like your peace activists did? Putting something to print like what you have above takes a lot of hypocrisy and audacity. To buy into takes stupidity.

    Not at all what your original quote said, but lets examine the new phrasing. By your logic, those who beat people with steel pipes and knifes shouldn't complain when they get shot? Those that preach genocide shouldn't complain when they get bombed? I had no idea you were so against Hamas and the violent people on that floatilla! Of course you won't stand behind your words if the roles are reversed which brings us once again to hypocrisy.

    Another flaw with your phrase is that it assumes every act of violence is an act of brutality and that all acts of violence are equal. Criminals often use this logic. "The cop was pointing a gun at me so I shot him!". "They were handcuffing me by force so my friend stabbed them". "I didn't like my neighbors attitude towards me so I murdered his friends children! Can you blame me?". Yes, we can blame you.

    How can one define any engagement with several injured law enforcement officers a success? Of course they fucked up. As I said earlier, next time they should just sink the boat. It is very difficult for someone to both swim and swing a metal pipe.

    Absolutely. They may not know it (and most of them don't), but the type of actions they are requesting support Hamas. Hey, 30% of Americans think Socialism is better than Capitalism. In the free market for ideas, we get groups of people who buy into a lot of bullshit. We got a statistically significant number of people who think Hitler was great, and Elvis is still alive.


    Care to explain?
     
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    #39
    By your logic democratic society shold act like terrorist organisation and that would be perfectly ok! Silly me, I tought that democratic societies are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay diferent thatn terrorists organisations!
    Violent people broke the law and that doesn't mean that you should also broke the law regarding them As citizes of US you should know that.

    Hopeing that next time they will sink the ship with 400-500 civilians on it is disgusting and now comparing that with criminals is nonsense. Try again.

    Hmmm so according to your "logic" it's perfectly understable when someone send army to deal with protestors? Seriously, all the time you pretend to be defender of democracy but actually you sound like a defnder of Iranian regime.

    Well than you are fucked sooner or later so enjoy your time while you can. Seriously.

    Did they defeated PLO with arms?
     
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    A release of the Israel foreign ministry youtube channel, summarizing the flotilla affair.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vCIR2N7V6c
    I don't think there are any more questions about the event left unanswered. Unless you rely on "testimonies", and not hard salient evidence.
     
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