NY-based Aid Activist releases new video evidence of the Flotilla massacre

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    israeli government tried hard to eliminate all other evidence of aid ship flotilla attack in International waters so that only its propaganda would be aired around the world. But a heroic New York-based documentary maker Iara Lee smuggeled out one of the memory cards which contains important evidence, which shows the israeli pirate raid on ships carrying wheelchairs and books for the impoverished Palestinians in Gaza.

    [video=vimeo;12429821]http://vimeo.com/12429821[/video]


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    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/11/gaza-flotilla-attack-new-video
     
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    samser_m Well-Known Member

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    I bet Israeli supporters will call this video fake. Actually they have great confidence in photoshop editing images.

    This is HD video with clear footage.

    Download
    No doubt Israel is the No.1 terrorist country, though US is not aware of the fact though they discovered mass destruction weapons in Iraq to start war. To get sympathy from others Israel is trying to confiscate the truth. Shame shame!

    @ gauharjk Thanks for your post.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    Awesome video! Lets recap what it shows:

    1) Blood sprays on the boat prior to the arrival of the helicopter
    2) "Peace activists" wearing gas masks in the act of using weapons against the Israelis who were there to peacefully redirect the ship.
    3) Several "Peace activists" talking about wounded Israeli soldiers being taken below decks, though they've edited out any footage of the actual soldiers out (Showing your own wounded plays better with people like you)
    4) The capable and knowledgeable ships medic using CPR as treatment from someone apparently suffering from a gunshot wound (LOL). With medical treatment like that, we should add your claim the Israeli soldiers received medical treatment from the people on the boat to the list of offenses.
    5) Islamists on their prayer mats bowing to the east.

    A word of advice gauharjk. If you are ever accused of a crime in America, under no circumstances should you ever defend yourself. You would probably submit the bloody murder weapon with your fingerprints all over it as evidence in your defense. Its like Darwinism in action.

    I especially appreciated the humor of the woman at the end yelling over the loud speaker, "Do not use weapons against us civilians" several minutes after the interview of the "Peace Activists" talking about bringing soldiers they wounded down below and holding them hostage. This is such a classic Palestinian maneuver, they should trademark it. First attack, then cry about getting your ass kicked in the response.

    Next time, lets hope they just sink the boat.
     
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  4. gauharjk

    gauharjk Notable Member

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    Obamanation, I can't see what you write coz you've been on my ignore list for many months now. Sometimes I do take a peek at your posts, then put you back on ignore out of disgust. How do you look at yourself in the mirror?
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    Don't sweat it Gauharjk. You fit the profile of many of the terrorist supporters on this forum who claim to want to discuss things while they hold their fingers in their ears. It would appear you and the rest have every media outlet reporting information you disagree with on "Ignore" as well.
     
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    The terrorist ship did not carry any humanitarian aid of any kind. Only the other 5 ships of the flotilla carried humanitarian aid.

    http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Government/Communiques/2010/Equipment_aid_Gaza_flotilla_7-Jun-2010
    Surprised?
    ;)

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/137997


    Couldn't put it better in words. Pakistan put its fingers in the ears when the world was drawing Mo, the terrorist-supporter gauaerknae does the same when the evidence clearly points against his ridiculous claims.
     
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    gauharjk Notable Member

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    Shocking Testimonials from the Mavi Marmara survivors
    See Gilad Atzmon's articles on http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/
     
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    The likes of you makes me puke.
     
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    I can relate. I have a particularly strong stomach, but the idea of Hamas being able to spread further their agenda of terror against their own people and the Israelis also makes me ill. The idea of sharia spreading to even one more part of this planet makes me ill. I suppose these mutual feelings of nausea legitimize the conflict. You dislike western law, order, and justice, freedom of religion, and freedom of speech. I dislike opening up supply lines to a rabid group of killers with a sworn agenda to eradicate the state of Israel from the map.

    I don't think either side here is actually disputing the facts. Israel did kill 9 of these violent Hamas supporters. The people on these ships did try and open the supply lines for weapons to be freely shipped into Gaza. It all comes down to whether you support Islamic rule, terrorism committed by radical Islamists, and oppressive regimes like Hamas and Iran(a regime not even supported by it's own people), or whether you support democracy, western capitalism(with all its flaws) and the freedom of speech, rule of law, and corresponding law enforcement that goes with it.

    You guys are doing your best to sell your agenda here on this forum and in practically every other media format imaginable. Sell away! The majority of the planet still weigh in heavily against you, which I'm thankful for. You are, however, making progress with a particularly weak minded section of the American population. I guess I'm going to have to spend more of my free time answering your propaganda with logic and reason on forums such as this one, though as Breeze Wood's often demonstrates, many in that segment are very resistant to logic and reason.
     
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    I don't understand why they were shot before the arrival of the troops.
     
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    LOL. This gaueataekjnaet dude and his write-only spam-enemies-to-death tactic is just hilarious.
    If somebody wondered why the Palestinians are in such a bad shape.... just look who their friends are on DP and u'll know everything ....

    But what really bothers me:
    According to the testimony of the Turkish ship's chief officer, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkXDev2wXVA and the captain http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I6XL2pzguE , the IHH Turkish fundamental Islamic terror-support organization (under cover of humanitarian aid) terrorized the people of the ship. When come there wasn't a single decent person on board to step forward and admit it? that the terrorists were speaking instead of the peace activists? is the hate of Israel that strong that any other hater of Israel is my best friend?

    As I said, No humanitarian aid was found on the Marmara. If somebody can prove otherwise (and I don't care what Jamal, Jim, Mohamed, Ahmed, Abdullah, Ilmit, Üldät, Ömüt or any other one of the terrorists and their supporters say), let me know.
    http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Government/Communiques/2010/Equipment_aid_Gaza_flotilla_7-Jun-2010

    Surprise Surprise....aid workers... ;)

    Israelis are terrorists, didn't you know that? ask gauaeriajoiaern ;)
    http://www.haaretz.com/print-editio...successful-in-half-of-melanoma-cases-1.295010
    thousands more future lives to be saved, on top of the dozens of millions saved already, due to Israeli unmatched scientific excellence.
     
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    Interview with Retired US Army Colonel Ann Wright, a Peace Activist sailing with the Flotilla

    Video: http://blip.tv/play/gdElgeTIDgI

    This retired US Colonel was on one of the Flotilla ships. Please see it to know the other side of the story, narrated by those who experienced it first hand.
     
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    LOL
    If I were him, I would have washed the blood off my face before giving interview. Unless I'm in for the show ;) Nobody buys this crap garuiaiunart. If you want to make a change, go to Pakistan to a taliban training camp and join the fighters of the world jihad. The write-only spam-enemies-to-death is pathetic and useless you dumbass. "testimonies" will never beat real time footages. Everybody knows what happened on that ship. Get real dude. The terrorists were outspoken terrorists. Most expressed their wishes of martyrdom. IHH chairmen have documented contacts with Hamas and the world jihad.
    Stop making a fool of yourself. Ben-Laden is not an "activist", he is a terrorist. And so are you.
     
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    First the US Army Colonel Ann Wright speaks out, and now a US Army Major. Perhaps it is time to rethink our foreign policy!
     
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    Of course, majority of your posts are nothing but garbage. You probably have some kind of AIPAC propaganda manual.
    day after day after day you post your opinions like they are fact. For example:
    Really? How do you know that? They already published how those 9 people got killed? You already know all details?
    I seriously doubt that. I dare you to prove that claim. Go ahead and do it.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3902243,00.html
    So you have 15% hamas supporters in US... OMFG! You are doomed!
     
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    This video pretty much debunks the idea that the Israeli's "attacked" a ship full of peaceful people who were under white flag protection. For starters, the speedboats alongside are throwing up quite a wake to keep up. If the ship were under a white flag it'd be stopped, not running away.

    I also found it pretty humorous that to point out the blood on the deck at 1:32 on the tape the guy used a laser. My first thought... wonder what that laser's attached to? LOL... the answer is apparent a few seconds later around 1:48... the guy that pointed it out has a revolver in his right hand. Odd that an unarmed peace activist would be toting a laser sighted revolver.

    At 3:04 on the tape the choppers drop the fastropes, and the first commando rappels down at 3:21 followed by others. No shots are fired... yet at 3:31 you see a little cadre hiding below the lip of the deck firing slingshots up at the chopper until it veers away. The camera follows that group armed with pipes and slingshots and gives you a nice pic of one of that crowd with pipe in hand at 4:21. Remember that guy's face and clothing... cause you'll see him among the wounded later. So much for the soldiers attacking "peace activists"... they shot "combatants".

    At 4:34 the camera is following a wounded man and the fight is obviously in progress above. We'd heard sporadic gunfire around 4:28 on the tape, but now we here someone fire 8 shots in rapid succession, sounding like someone got over-run. The camera shot of the wounded guy being carried below deck abruptly ends. When it comes back on we have the same wounded passenger being carried below, but new people are present in the scene talking about prisoners that were just carried below deck. Either they stopped the camera and didnt show the "peace activists" transporting the hostages referenced or they edited it out.

    This tape is anything but a defense of the "peace activists". It clearly indicates they were running from the blockade and premeditatedly attacking the commandos that came aboard.
     
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    Are you saying the 9 dead people were not shot by Israel? I haven't heard anyone claim that yet. Have you heard anyone deny the 9 people were killed by Israel? I certainly am not. Lets not create disagreement where it doesn't exist.

    Ah, reading comprehension issues once again. The title of the article says 15% feel Israel was to blame for the deadly raid, not 15% support the objectives of the flotilla (Opening up a naval blockade so Hamas can receive weapons to use against Israel). Here is a link to the actual polling data used by Ynet in that article:
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...nian_activists_to_blame_in_gaza_ship_incident
    Notice the title? 49% blame the "activists"? That survey is full of humor, but this might have taken the cake:

    So only half as many people think the UN is our friend as believe that Israel is our friend but literally 8 times as many people believe the UN is our enemy as believe Israel is our enemy.

    You have to love polls. There is an enormous difference between weighing in on something you likely know little about, and actually getting on board a boat with the stated political objective of opening up arms traffic to Hamas, a terrorist organization. Trust me when I say, if the polling question were worded, "Would you support the dropping of the military blockade of Gaza even if it meant that an increase in the flow of weapons to Hamas, an organization the US State Department has labeled a terrorist organization", your support amongst Americans would go from small to non-existent.

    Perhaps you should swing back to your tactic of threatening more planes into buildings. That certainly had an entertaining and insightful aspect to it. Perhaps you should threaten violence against everyone who responds to your stories with logic and reason.

    Good luck Sisyphus.
     
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    You don't even know how someone got shot on that boat and why. Do you? Why do your hold details? Why you hide them from us? Spill it out! You already have results of probe the was I see it! :D

    Ah, again twisting things to suits your pink view of the world... When I was blaiming Israel for deadly ride you blamed me for supporting terrorism yet when like 45,000,000 said basicly same thing I've said than it's something completly diferent... I get it. LMAO.
    Now you only need to show us where anyone stated that their goal is to open up arms traffic to Hamas... facts? Who cares about them! Right?

    You and logic?!? Buahahahahahahahaha
    From things above everyone can see your "logic". :D
    Btw when I was threatining? Did you already reported it to CIA? :D
    lol actually you sound like a clow more and more with every post
     
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    @moreplayers: Did you present a single fact or raise a single legitimate issue in your post? Apparently not, so no need to respond. I will, however, work through the illogic of this idiotic statement with you:
    Now I am 100% positive you are familiar with Hamas' history of launching rockets into Israel. I'm also quite sure you know the stated purpose of the blockade is to prevent the shipment of weapons into Gaza (which it does). You and your terrorist supporting pals make all kinds of claims about the purpose of the blockade being to block humanitarian aid and crush Gaza's economy, but nobody, including you can deny the blockade prevents the flow of weapons into Gaza.

    Some of your more honest supporters of terrorism on this forum have directly said that weapons should be shipped to Gaza to be used against the "oppressive Israelis", but I suppose you are now denying any such agenda. Nevertheless, both your Palestinian leadership(Fatah), and the leaders of Egypt agree that lifting the blockade means opening up weapons traffic to Gaza. Its not complicated. So lets review:

    1) Hamas states they want to destroy Israel on a daily basis
    2) Hamas needs weapons to give destroying Israel a go.
    3) The blockade prevents weapons from going into gaza.
    4) Lifting the blockade permits weapons to go into gaza

    Therefore, regardless of what they say, those in favor of lifting the blockade will achieve the Hamas goal of permitting weapons into Gaza. Some are perhaps unwitting in trying to achieve the goals of a terrorist organization, but I tend to think most know exactly what it is they are really asking for. I'm sure a guy like you who supports flying planes into buildings falls into that group. How does it feel to have to lie and play stupid on a daily basis?
     
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