Mosque near Ground Zero

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by samser_m, May 30, 2010.

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Mosque for Ground Zero?

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  1. Scoty

    Scoty Active Member

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    #21
    I see nothing wrong with this. The only problem that could arise is some noobs start causing shit because they believe everything is about religion, e.g thinking that because they're Muslim, they're all evil.
     
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  2. earlpearl

    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    #22
    I find the very idea deeply repulsive. A friend of mine died in building 1 that was hit on 9/11. He didn't just die. He was murdered. He had a wife, two kids, a sister, parents, other relatives and friends. Not only did he have nothing to do with anyones complaints griefs, stances etc....but he was a gentle and talented individual with an amazing past. Decades ago as a young American radical he might have been someone who spoke out supporting the Islamic fanatics. maybe yes, maybe no. Later he developed his skills as a musician to be hired by a major city orchestra. That labeled him as one of the best French Horn players in the nation. Simultaneously he used his skill and training as an economist to become one of the nation's experts on precious metals, became a quoted authority on metals, and landed a strong job on Wall Street servicing an international clientele in this specialty. Really a unique and talented individual.

    All that aside he was a caring friend, but most of all he was a loving family man.

    He was murdered by fanatics within the Islamic religeon.

    I have friends who are Muslim. I've had Muslim neighbors. I've dined, barbecued, taken care of their kids, etc. They are my friends. They aren't fundamentalist crazed muslims that are out to destroy humanity and inflict a crazed view on the rest of the world.

    There is no need for a religious entity on or near that piece of ground that was the target of a distorted crazed element of the Muslim religion. OTOH, NYC is a big place with opportunities for mosques anywhere. Anywhere but there.

    There is a place in the USA for religious freedom and there is a place for respect for the murdered souls who were sacrificed on that ground by the most distorted sick, killing entity, that is part of that religion. Its a disgrace IMHO.
     
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  3. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #23
    I love their reasoning behind calling it the Cordoba Initiative, pointing out how they have defeated America.

    They are right you know. The Americans of today don't have the gumption that our ancestors did. We simply don't have what it takes to fight and win. We have nothing to match the raw barbaric force of Islam. The Muslims want to win and they are willing to do anything to do it. They are wiling to use their own children as human shields just to get a good TV spot for their cause. Americans are tired of fighting and just want to watch television and feel good about themselves. Civilization is doomed.
     
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  4. miscsoft

    miscsoft Peon

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    #24
    i wanna build a mosque, church, synagogue, temple, guruduara etc etc in Saudi Arabia. that will surely promote religious harmony. what do you say.
     
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  5. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #25
    When it comes to religious tolerance, the Muslims definitely believe it's better to receive than to give. :p
     
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  6. Your Lover For Ever

    Your Lover For Ever Peon

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    #26
    LOL, I still don't understand the link between building a mosque and between terroristic shit that many smart people chanting about here, did you read ENOUGH about doctrine of Islam before deciding that? I doubt!!!
    Any way, build the mosque or not, this will not stop the fact of fast spreading of Islam on US, on the Whole world indeed.
    It is a matter of hearts, which is not limited by buildings!!!
     
    Last edited: Jun 11, 2010
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  7. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #27
    Like this heartwarming story about a seven year old boy converting to Islam last week.
     
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  8. Your Lover For Ever

    Your Lover For Ever Peon

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    #28
    All you know about Islam is Taleban, so Pathetic!!

    Like the millions who converted to Islam in your country

    You like to read, then read carefully:
    Now what about some links for your sake:
    http://www.islamfortoday.com/america01.htm
    http://www.sultan.org/articles/convert.html
    http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/9704/14/egypt.islam/
    http://www.defendamerica.mil/articles/a100501b.html
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1026534.ece
    http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1227/p01s04-woeu.html
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A27758-2001Jan6&notFound=true
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_converts_to_Islam
    http://www.wrmea.com/backissues/0190/9001042.htm

    Do another search about Taleban and reply with it, that would be meaningful !
     
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  9. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #29
    Leave the 6th century in the 6th century. Update your mind.
     
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  10. Your Lover For Ever

    Your Lover For Ever Peon

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    #30
    I don't notice where I mentioned the 6th century, may be you mean 2000, 1995 or 1989!!
    So you think Islam Evolved and Americans start not to convert to it..
    Oh Yeah, what about an up to date video
    CNN NEWS 6 million americans converted to islam
    This belongs to 2009 if it works for you!
    I wonder what will you say the next time..
     
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  11. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #31
    Why Saudi Arabia? We have all those (except for a synagogue, since there are no adherents of Judaism here) already in Malaysia.

    Coming from a xenophobic, fascist-Nazi wannabe, this certainly sounds like a case of the mother crab telling its children to walk straight.
     
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  12. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #32
    Are you sure? Want me to find the information about what happened to the synagogue that Malaysian jews have built at one point?
     
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  13. miscsoft

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    #33
    its the headquarter of "peace" thats y.
     
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  14. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #34
    Most of your converts to Islam in the US are happening inside the US prison system. Quality people always seek their own kind.

    As I recall, weren't your fellow Malaysian Muslims firebombing Christian churches because the law now permits them to use the word Allah, the only word for God in your language? Somehow, I suspect if Muslims made up much more than 60% of your population, you would have just massacred them.

    Like a woman who was raped at age 6 telling her daughter not to have sex at age 6? Perhaps I missed the point of your analogy.
     
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  15. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #35
    There are Jews in Malaysia, but the government won't give them a license to open a synagogue.

    "Today, approximately 100 Jews reside in Malaysia, most of which are refugees from Russia. Most of the original community have emigrated to other countries, especially with the rise of anti-semitic sentiments and anti-Israel policies pursued by the Malaysian government since the 1970s." (Wikipedia)
     
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  16. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #36
    Synagogues of the World

    Malaysia



    Former Penang Synagogue

    [​IMG]
    http://jewishphotolibrary.smugmug.com/gallery/5316678_zsGXY#324634746_6M7DA


    Muslim protesters seal Jewish synagogue in Indonesia

    http://www.asianewsnet.net/news.php?id=3343&sec=1



    Indonesian protesters of Gaza op call for country's only synagogue to close

    http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world...or-country-s-only-synagogue-to-close-1.268312



    Defending Palestine, the only Indonesian synagogue is closed down

    http://www.indrani.net/2009/01/defending_palestine_the_only_indonesian_synagogue_is_closed_down


    The Malaysian government closed the synagogue down in 1976.
     
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  17. Your Lover For Ever

    Your Lover For Ever Peon

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    #37
    Prison system hahahaha, believe me when it comes to blind hate you'd better visit a therapist!!
    By the way, some of the prisoners are famous, you may know some:

    â–º Famous people who converted to islam ..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB5QBzquBrU

    â–ºFamous American Muslims - Dont be Shocked !
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbOZcKhkfEA

    â–ºFamous Converts to Islam
    http://www.adherents.com/largecom/famconv_islam.html

    â–ºWhy are so many Women converting to Islam?
    http://www.themodernreligion.com/women/women_why_converting.htm

    â–ºA Wave of Conversion to Islam in the U.S. Following September 11
    http://www.sultan.org/articles/convert.html

    Your comment will be appreciated, even if it comes to prison systems...
     
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  18. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #38
    Dude you crack me up. You provide a bunch of Islamic propaganda videos and links as your evidence that Islam is very popular in the west, and then use the word "blind" in reference to me? I especially enjoyed the two links mentioning "Famous" people who converted to Islam, as if that is supposed to make Islam any more credible. The list of famous people from your link who have converted to Islam includes the following people:

    * B.G. Knocc Out - an African-American rapper
    * Mike Tyson - former heavyweight boxing champion

    The funny thing is, those poeple converted to Islam IN PRISON.

    Here are some more famous convers to Islam(In Prison)
    * Abdul Alim Musa - radical Muslim-American activist
    * Charles Brooks, Jr. - convicted murderer; converted to Islam before execution
    * H. Rap Brown - former Black Panther; currently in prison for murdering a police officer
    * Jeff Fort - former Chicago gang leader; convicted in 1987 of conspiring with Libya to perform acts of domestic terrorism
    * Jeffrey Mark Deskovic - served 15-year wrongful imprisonment sentence; exonerated by DNA evidence
    * José Padilla - convicted of aiding terrorists in "Dirty Bomb" plot
    * Kevin James - ringleader of the 2005 Los Angeles bomb plot

    And here is a link that is neither an Islamic or anti Islamic promotional video. It is a link to a Senate Judiciary hearing where a doctor is testifying about the process of conversion in the US prison system.

    http://judiciary.senate.gov/hearings/testimony.cfm?id=960&wit_id=2719

    80% of those who convert in prison convert to Islam. Hope you are proud!
     
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  19. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #39
    Some people turn gay in prison, others turn Muslim, others both. :p
     
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  20. Your Lover For Ever

    Your Lover For Ever Peon

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    #40
    Sure I am ;)
    So you spent at least 20 minutes searching and writing about 9 characters who converted to Islam in prison!!!

    Thank you for proving to me that the prisons also have SOME people who converted to Islam, because I only thought it happens in Churches,
    Let a former priest talk to you about that :)

    Priests and preachers entering Islam ( 1 of 2 )
    Priests and preachers entering Islam ( 2 of 2 )
    Priests and Preachers accepting Islam

    Besides, when it comes to people who converted to Islam in prison this proves that they were Christians or may be Jews when they committed their sins do not they!!! :confused:

    One last comment
    :) Islam doesn't wait any one to prove such a thing, although the very high numbers of converting people every year should do, but believe me it is nothing as when you read Quran with Sincerity, you may don't got that now, and I understand why,,
    I'm here for any additional questions, thank you for your time
     
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