Freedom for Kurds vs Palestinians. Why Muslims don't cry for their muslim brothers

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Truth777, Jun 3, 2010.

  1. zangief

    zangief Well-Known Member

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    #21
    Just another disinformation , general Israel behavior they feel quilty and want to get out by blaming others.We have no differences between kurds and turks here , we see ourselves as the same.
     
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  2. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #22
    And of course you speak for all of Turkey! Free Kurdistan NOW!! End the illegal state of Turkey, and return Kurdistan to its rightful owners! Throw the invaders and terrorist oppressors out!

    http://www.siiga.org/articles-and-i...ry-of-oppression-and-future-prospects.en.html

    I look at stories like this, and I realize the world needs to unite against the oppressive and illegal state of Turkey! The world can no longer tolerate such a band of terrorist dogs! With such behavior, is there really any need to treat them as humans? I think not!
     
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  3. moonwalker

    moonwalker Well-Known Member

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    #23
    Fighting is fucking stupid. I think the world has been bored for so long that the only way to make things interesting is to fight. Fuck all that. The world needs to chill out.
     
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  4. Polite teen

    Polite teen Guest

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    #24
    Turkey is more legal than USA. You know that.

    Native american should throw the invaders and terrorist oppressors out.

    Why shall they allow some dogs for the jews to control their lands?

    BTW, I don't mind at all that Kurds make their Kurdistan, but this should start first from Iraq where there is no real country in the right sense of the word "country", there is only invaders who waged illegal war claiming the existance of nuclear weapons in Iraq.

    So, let us begin with the most easy step first and throw the invaders of Iraq outside, then let us try the other steps.
     
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  5. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #25
    Might be a good idea for Israel to start arming PKK for their honourable fight against the illegal terrorist state of Turkey.
    What Turkey is doing is absolutely disgusting, and no one in the world cares. I demand international investigations!
     
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  6. Obamanation

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    #26
    Turkey is an Illegal and fascist state! They may be the biggest terrorist state on the planet! The poor and impoverished people of Kurdistan have had their land stolen from them by these pigs, and it is time for the occupation to END! I propose that the world join in as one to help the poor and suffering people of Kurdistan. It seems clear that shipments of aid should go through to the Kurds UNINSPECTED by the evil Turkish regime! I think the US, and every other peace loving country should start shipping that aid to the peace loving Kurdish people IMMEDIATELY!!!

    Join with me in the protest of the illegal and illegitimate state of Turkey! End the occupation!!
     
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  7. babak44

    babak44 Active Member

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    #27
    not sure but heared Israel Mossad helped Turkey to arrest Abdullah Ojalan PKK ex-leader.

    seems you are so angry but it must not drive you in such way.

    I have been in Turkey twice with my family for vacation and will go there next two weeks again. Turkey has democracy and aren't terrorist at all. they dislike American policy and also don't recognize Kurds right completely but recently Kurdish situation improved a lot.
     
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  8. Polite teen

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    #28
    Turkey welcome any humanitirian aids to the Kurdish people, go on immediately.

    I would like to inform you that I have some Kurdish friends who are with Turkey against PKK.

    I laugh at your try to make enemity between us while God has made us brothers.

    You cannot prepare an international humanitirian aids as that Turkey called for because your aim is to destroy Turkey throug PKK, not to help Kurdish at all.

    If you really were concerned about Kurdish, you would help them long time ago, but you are concerned with Israel which owns you along with other dogs.
     
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  9. Danielregwan

    Danielregwan Well-Known Member

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    #29
    This is how you treat your brothers? no wonder you want to wipe Israel off the map.
     
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  10. Polite teen

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    #30
    Ok, let me clarify things to you.

    In Turkey, there are Islamists and secular racists.

    We are different. Most oppressions are made by these secular racists, while Justice is spread by Islamists.

    I want Israelis to follow the commandments of God so that they will be safe in the hereafter. I like all people to be safe and to be Honered by looking at God Glory be to Him. I hope you all the best.
    I want Israelis to stop their crimes and their hatred for Jesus christ and prophet Mohammad, peace be upon them, and the rest of mankind or let them be finished as criminals should.

    Note:
    God wrote the land of Palestine for us (muslims), and you have no right to take it from us.
    If you don't believe in God, but rather in history, then the history proves that land is for Arabs.
     
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  11. samser_m

    samser_m Well-Known Member

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    #31
    I have noticed one thing when Obamanation become angry he says anything without logic (loosing control), and when he can't answer a question he give a new name who ask the question "stupid" :)

    Now Turkey is a terrorists' country lol . i guess these people will spend all money by starting war (as did for Iraq/Afghanistan)
     
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  12. Danielregwan

    Danielregwan Well-Known Member

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    #32
    see? the problem is right here. I want you to be safe and hereafter too, the problem is I don't believe in Muhammad or the Quran.
    you can't force your religion and your beliefs on other people.

    Note:
    1. I don't have any hatred for Jesus, actually? I love him and no I'm not a Christian.
    2. Jerusalem is not mentioned even one time in the Quran how can you explain this ?
     
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  13. samser_m

    samser_m Well-Known Member

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    #33
    Islam never force anybody to accept Islam -I bet you can't show us proof - you have really little knowledge of Islam :D
     
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  14. zangief

    zangief Well-Known Member

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    #34
    :D Everytime Israel murders innocent people , they have to take the world's attention to something else even it is a lie.Same old story same bunch of murderers.
     
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  15. Truth777

    Truth777 Peon

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    #35
    Never herd of true brothers where the stronger abuses and deprives the yonger from basic human rights. How about the destruction of over 3,000 Kurdish villages? Do true brothers do such things to one another?

    Looks like better be alone than with a turkish brother.
     
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    babak44 Active Member

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    #36
    see these parts of Quran
     
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  17. zangief

    zangief Well-Known Member

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    #37
    Do you remember Mitnick's book "Master of deception" this applies to our hebrew friends in this forum everytime they acted above international rules and killed civilian people they blame others with self made and wrong accusations.

    Any one remembers Folke Bernadotte the murdered UN mediator killed in Israel.Look at the picture of his killers and their roots you'll understand Israel more.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folke_Bernadotte

     
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  18. Polite teen

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    #38
    Hi babak44,

    It was written for them when they were the only believers in that area at that time, but when they disobeyed the prophet, they were banned from the Holy land. I think the story is clear and God's judgment is Obvious.

    They are now violating all the commandments of God, and they are not only disobedients, but also disbelievers against Jesus christ and prophet Mohammad, peace be upon them. So the rules of God is applied on them again.

    And (remember) when Moses said to his people: "O my people! Remember the Favour of Allâh to you, when He made Prophets among you, made you kings, and gave you what He had not given to any other among the world. (20)

    "O my people! Enter the holy land (Palestine) which Allâh has assigned to you, and turn not back (in flight) for then you will be returned as losers." (21)

    They said: "O Moses! In it (this holy land) are a people of great strength, and we shall never enter it, till they leave it; when they leave, then we will enter." (22)

    Two men of those who feared (Allâh and) on whom Allâh had bestowed His Grace said: "Assault them through the gate, for when you are in, victory will be yours, and put your trust in Allâh if you are believers indeed." (23)

    They said: "O Moses! We shall never enter it as long as they are there. So go you and your Lord and fight you two, we are sitting right here." (24)

    He [Moses] said: "O my Lord! I have power only over myself and my brother, so separate us from the people who are the Fâsiqûn (rebellious and disobedient to Allâh)!" (25)

    (Allâh) said: "Therefore it is forbidden to them. For forty years; in distraction they will wander through the land. So be not sorrowful over the people who are the Fâsiqûn (rebellious and disobedient to Allâh)." (26)


    Also, you have to know that when God send a messenger, then it is not accepted that one might say: "I just follow the old prophet, not you", the reply for such person would be: "I am the way, the truth, and the life; No one can go to the father but through me" as Jesus clearly explained to them.

    Once Jesus was sent, the way Moses has been closed, and no one of those who recieved the message of Jesus and then disbelieved in him, but will go to Hell.
    The same is for prophet Mohammad, peace be upon him and his family. Once he was sent, all those who recieved his message had to follow him, and there is no way to God till the day of Judgment but through Mohammad, peace be upon him, And whoever seeks a religion other than Islâm, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers. (85)

    It is not fair at all, by common sense, that the jews enter the Holy land and control it rather than the criminal disbelievers in that land, while when the jews become themselves the criminal disbelievers, the original citizens cannot treat them the same way.

    God is the Source of Justice, and those who disbelieve will lose themselves.

    As they killed people in the name of God, (even after they changed His true religion, they haven't stop from killing people unjustly in His name), they also will be treated the same way.
     
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  19. babak44

    babak44 Active Member

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    #39
    thanks for mentioned that part of Quran.
    anyway I guess that forty years passed alredy!

    dear polite teens
    just want to bring that parts of Quran about owner of that land and what Allahs said about excel the nations.
     
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  20. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #40
    Once Báb was sent, the way of Muhammad was closed. You're one religion behind. :p
     
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