I'll make it easier for timsdd here: "Air" mostly contains several elements in gaseous form & water vapor. Aproximately 78% of the "air" (earth's atmosphere) contains nitrogen. Test the air for presence of nitrogen & so on & you can prove it's existence. Existence is not the same thing as visibility! Read this if you need more help comprehending the existence of air: http://education.jlab.org/qa/matter_03.html
Lol, I'm having loads of fun! (Esspecially since nobody seems to be listening to me)! Let's chat a bit and make jokes about JC, how about it?
Oh and grafstein, I don't believe in the holocaust, prove to me that it happened! Jokes, just kidding - of course I believe that the holocaust happened, did you miss my first post on the thread? Guys, cool down - let's not fight about whether air is true or not, eXe, I'm sure that you can understand and be open-minded to the fact that maybe air isn't actually real. LOL!
I'm sorry, I'm in a really childish mood - i'm just getting a big laugh out of this. First of all - Obviously air exists. The holocaust obviously did happen, don't know where you met anyone who said it didn't. I appologize, I was out of line making silly jokes like that.
I'm childish by nature, not just today, tomorrow, or the day after that. I'm old enough that I should know better but I don't. I'm sorry too if I 'made light' of the original topic. However, in kiddo's defense, the "IQ20" comment takes a little way from your original intent (I don't disagree with you) I'm just saying a tiny amount of credibility is lost in stating it as such IMO.
My God, do some people really question if the holocaust really happended? In Central and South American some people do not believe man has ever landed on the moon.
You expect human remains to be left from 2,000 years ago? The Bible is just as much proof and a reliable document as anything else.
I think we can all agree that comparing the holocaust with the big JC is silly. We have tangible evidence that the holocaust occurred in the form of photographs, human remains and eye witness accounts, while the existence of Jesus Christ is something that we take on faith. That's not to say that he didn't exist, or that he wasn't the son of God. That's something that's up to each individual to decide. But let's not make statements like the one below: and expect to be taken seriously. By no sensible measure is the Bible reliable proof of anything, however loose your definition of the word 'proof'. Again, I'm not claiming that Christ didn't exist. I don't honestly care either way. Let's not confuse facts with faith, though.
thing is, you can question about anything making obscure questions and false references. That's what deniers have been doing to try to deny the Holocaust happened. However, the evidence is overwhelming.
Yad Vashem - The Holocaust Martyrs' and Heroes' Remembrance Authority: http://www.yadvashem.org/ And Wiki about Yad Vashem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yad_Vashem
could it be possible that those who did not believe does not really mean that they dont, its just that the figures/facts related to the event is what they dont believe
I think its beyond funny reaching into just sad how people can actually believe stuff like this not because they are ignorant because the information and proog is so prevalent you cant claim ignorance, which means these people literally must be stupid, thats the only reason I could see anyone have if they believed the millions of jews and others dieing was a hoax.
hehe i wont argue w/ u against that .... however what if some guy comes out and makes an astonishing proof that the world is round and not flat well ... just think of the possibilities ... in the old days everyone ( almost everyone ) believed that the world is flat .. until our navigators came out to prove that it is otherwise ... what if in the next few years ... somebody comes out and prove that the holocaust was indeed ... hmmmm forgive me of my imaginations ... but try considering implications of such a proof as for me ... i'll keep an open mind for those guys who think of such things and let them prove their claim first, before i give them further attention