I have been watching many videos regarding they views on the Israeli - Palestinian conflict. Please comment on this video. [video=youtube;5uEK7zaMEBg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uEK7zaMEBg&feature=related[/video]
Rabbi Weiss is the same guy who said "We know he (Ahmadinejad) is not an enemy to the Jews, he has a Jewish community in his country that he honors, defends and supports." He's not really a very good example of Jewish Orthodox beliefs.
Let the world calm down from the Israeli clash...then we can happily discuss the views on their beliefs
I think that first you better make sure you really have an idea what this specific negligible stream of orthodox jews believe before you express your views on their beliefs. What do you think? good idea, no? makes sense? They are related to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict more or less like the Japanese Sumo wrestling champion is related to it. (I mean, if he was jewish).
Here some of their beliefs: They are against the Zionist regime and continuously speak against it. For they views they are beaten and persecuted against in Israel and they blame the terrorist state of Israel for the death of thousand innocent civilians in Palestine. They believe that their religious book advices them that the Jews cant ever have their own state. Also they say that before the creation of Israel Arabs and Jews were living in peace. There was no terrorism committed by any side. Now you are asking me if they are good or bad ? To me they are awesome. The terrorist regime in Israel acts no differently than the terrorist Muslims . Both scumbags are focus on intimidating, terrorizing and killing of the innocent civilian population. This is why i wish for the state of Israel to seize to exist or other option is to stop killing innocent people and make peace in the region.
If you're interested, here's additional reading material. Orthodox Union ORTHODOX UNION STATEMENT WITH REGARD TO IDF ACTIONS NEAR GAZA
Well to be honest since fanatism took control of both sides , I don't think living together would be a good idea.We have a story here a man was feeding a snake , it was like a pet.One day the man's son was playing with the snake and he pressed its head and since it hurt the snake bite the son and he is dead.The snake was escaping to his nest the man throw a knife to it and the knife cut the snake's tail. Time past one day the man felt unhappy and called the snake " Lets be friends again" , the snake said " since you have the pain of your Son's death and I have the pain from my tail , it is hard to be friends again" But religions are like this you believe everything will be alright with love and with the help of god.
Mi: You are simply ignorant about Orthodox Jews. There are Orthodox of many types representing schools of thought from different parts of the world. There are Orthodox Jews that are Sephardic, representing the Jewish tradition developed in the Spanish region; Orthodox Mizrahi Jews, representing the Jewish tradition that developed in mostly in the Mid East in Asia, and a variety of Orthodox Jews representing the Europeans (Ashkenazim). That group is a teeny subsect of the Ashkenazim. They are mostly ignored. Most Orthodox Jews support Israel. In fact many of the Orthodox are the Israeli's that most ardently support expansion of Jewish settlements. Most Israeli's are not Orthodox. Most Jews are not Orthodox. Regardless, Israel is a democracy. These people can say what they want. They can yell and demonstrate. They can be voted into the parliament. Its called a Democracy. Its very different from the tyrannical regimes that rule through most of the mideast where people who disagree with the regime in power are simply imprisoned forever or slaughtered. Frankly I think that subset are a bunch of nuts. OTOH they can say what they want. Israel is a democracy. Its called freedom. Read up about it.
You are right when saying that i don't have a clue about all different orthodox Jewish views. But i do now that the group in the video is being persecuted by the democratic Zionist regime of the wonderful peaceful state of Israel. Israel is a democracy only to Zionists. Thank you for suggesting me to do some readings on freedom and democracy . I have already done that long time ago.
Interesting. how do you know that? Do you know: 1) that they are mostly American citizens? 2) what these people actually believe in? Now that I saw all the idiot DP muslims express their love and appereciation to the Neturei Karta orthodox jews (the ppl seen on the video, http://www.nkusa.org), Its about time to teach you stupid terrorists what the Neurei Karta orthodox jews believe in: 1) They resist the state of Israel because in their belief system, jews should not fight for their country, or for anything else, but only worship god. This means, that if there is a massacre of jews, this is only because god is mad that they had too much sins, and they should not fight back but pray more. They should remain subordinants and pay taxes to foreign rule. 2) One day, when the jewish nation will reach the ultimate purity and holiness, god will decided that its time to bring the Messiah. 3) When the prayers and the "purity" will make the messiah come, the messiah will butcher all the muslims, because Islam is the most inferior abomination of god, and the jews will be granted the holiland of Israel - without firing a single bullet. The Islam <->Neturei Karta friendship is an absurd thuggish-ignorant-haters <-> crazy-delusional-religious-freaks friendship , which is just another illustration why the world of Islam is so fucking pathetic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neturei_Karta#Beliefs
You are right. Every one that speaks against the stellar human rights records of the terrorist state of Israel is stupid, Muslim and a terrorist. It couldn't be any other way. The stupid terrorist Muslim country of Ireland has a humanitarian aid ship on the way to define the illegal cruel blockade made by Israel. You might want to inform your government to intercept them and make sure they send enough warships, submarines, and aircraft to deal with this terrorists. Also a great option would be to use weapons of mas destruction on them. The same weapons used on Gaza civilians ( White Phosphorus ) . And i never said that Neturei Karta is in love with Islam. They just denounce the state of Israels barbaric actions against civilians and support the Palestinian cause.
Yeah, but they know once the messiah comes, all muslims will be butchered by him and the land will be free of this so called abomination. Does that sit ok with you? Of course it does. Why? Because they promote your cause, never mind that in the grand scheme of things they believe that all muslims will be slaughtered, right?
I don't have any religious cause. I don't believe in any of the bullshit religious books. I am not brainwashed by any religion and never will be. My cause is to denounce terrorism regardless which country or religious group is committing it.
If my life is on the line i will change my clothes anywhere. I am not stupid to risk everything regardless of what i believe.