Israeli have given crucial support in recent years to Turkey's efforts to prevent the

" ..... Israeli have given crucial support in recent years to Turkey's efforts to prevent the deaths of 1.5 million Armenians in Ottoman Turkey during World War I from being labeled a genocide..... "

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100602/ap_on_re_eu/eu_turkey_israel

Well in my book of morals, this is a shame for Israel’s leadership.

Turkey indeed committed the genocide. Israel was supposed to be at least silent on this issue, but never to support its denial.

Israel should not sell any weapons that are used against the Kurds too. The Turks have a century long list of oppressing minorities and deserve condemnation, not support.

 

LOL. how can one support a denial? ...... "Yes! what the Turks say is right! I swear in my momma's name!" ?

well here I have nothing to say in favour of Israel. The persecution of the Kurds was made also with high-tech Israeli weapons. Turkey's military is based on Israeli technology.
We can't be hollier than the pope, we still look for ways to survive. And our friendship with the only non-backward Muslim country of the world was a precious asset. I truly hope that the relationship will recover once the Islamist government will be replaced.
I promise you that if America will start persecuting somebody, we will still be friends with america. Better be smart and alive than right but dead....

 

Here I disagree with you. The money that Israel makes by selling high tech weapons used to persecute the Kurds is somewhat blood money, Israel does not really need it for her survival. I believe in God and in my belief system that is a bad Karma.
No one expects Israel or USA or any other country to be holy, but we have to have some sort of humane standards - not jungle.
If we turn to the jungle law then what's the difference between the animals and us the humans? If we play by the jungle law the difference then will be that we can kill each other in great numbers and quickly. Not a good way to live.

You may get friendly again with Turkey, but I don't see that it will benefit you in the long run. Turkey is getting more radical, the turkish Islamists are slowly getting in power and there is Islamic terrorism in the making in Turkey. Islamist love to kill for Islam. They (the Islamist) by nature do not forgive and retaliate. Actually the Turkish islamist have declared a political war on you (just listen to the Turkish president and you'll get the picture), the first physical clash happen a few days ago and probably 9 turks got killed in it by Israeli forces. So expect some sort terrorism against you by turkish terrorists. I do hope that does not happen, but history tells me chances are close to 100% that they will hit jewish targets. Turkey is 99% Muslim. It is written in their holy book that they must kill the jews. Still want their "friendly" hugs?
Muslims from all over the world just hate you and want you dead, that's what I have seen from Muslims. I am still surprised to see that there is so much Islamic hatred for jews, and I tend to think that the true reason for it is the Quran.
PS
Forget about making bad money by selling weapons to Turkey. Karma will come to bite you for it.

 

Turkey has saved jews a lot of times in the History , they are generally expelled from the land they live from time to time.Cause they have no respect to the others living on the same land.The anger grows grows and generally a Hitler comes.(Hitler does not come out of nothing there has to be something that made people follow Hitler) and we see that tehse people never take lessons from history and never ask why.

 

I find a lot of wisdom in your words. Hitler did not come from nothing. There seems to be always someone who wants to take his place. If the world does not stand in solidarity against that line of thinking and take early and deliberate action against the Hitler wannabes on this planet, the horrors of WWII, or worse, could be upon us. What do you recommend as a first step? Removal of Hamas from power? How about Hezbollah? A preemptive strike on Iran? Take your pick.

 

The whole point in the arms trade with Turkey is not making money. That's not THAT much money for us. The point was to please the Turks and be in good contacts with them.

We are not Taliban (selling drugs to the world) or Iran or Pakistan or any country that has moral values only when they speak about Israel.
If it was only about the money, there would have been no doubt what is the right thing to do:
http://www.israelidiamond.co.il/English/NEWS.aspx?boneID=918&objID=6098&SearchS=conflict+diamonds
http://www.rough-polished.com/en/news/39349.html
http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2010/01/28/how-israel-can-help-stop-flow-zimbabwe-s-blood-diamonds

If we were a country of the magnitude of Germany, US, etc', we would not need the Turks .... and it would have been a different ball game... but we can't win on all edges. Survival comes first.

The Turkish Kurds could only dream to have half the rights that the 1.3 million Israel-Arab citizens enjoy, as such....not having their language banned, to name an example...

 

I honestly think Israel should end all diplomatic relations with Turkey.
The nerve of spewing so much hate and poison towards Israel is mind boggling.
I hope Israel would put an end to this disgrace, end all relations with this islamic country of peace, take a stand against Turkey for the atrocities of the Armenian genocide, support an international investigation regarding the Armenian genocide, start selling military equipment to the Kurds and support them.

 

Make sure you don't lose the support of God. The easy way to lose it is to constantly break His commandments and go against His will.

 

Israel is a rogue state and thinks everything they do will be out of punishment , all they do is false propaganda and blame everybody by not looking at themselves.Everyone is fed of this if you check how many views this thread got you'll also notice this.
We know Israel is the main state led terorist country.They think that they'll stop people by suppressing them but they'll learn that they are false.

And for life under Israel occupation you can watch youtube videos and see how they are threated and general Israel citizens view on others.

[video=youtube;6Ek5G6337yU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ek5G6337yU[/video]

 

I say - support the poor Kurds! Turkey is commiting crimes all over the place, and Israel has kept its silence long enough.
Time for some international investigations in Turkey.

 

Right, The Kurds haven't killed Turkish soldiers or anything : "Kurdish rebels launched a rocket attack on a military vehicle near naval base in southern Turkey early Monday, killing six soldiers and wounding seven, the military said."

Source : http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jaQi6OY_A1G1bCSOqVoDHeGWJqKQD9G1SSJ80
http://en.trend.az/regions/met/turkey/1680153.html

 

They have a right to! They are peace activists. Turkey is commiting serious crimes against humanity.
Definitely should be investigated further.

 

As far I can remember world is condemning nowadays for flotilla attack (another serious crime against humanity) - probably country is so called Israel! (heaven of crimes against humanity)

 

Yes, Turkey welcome Justice and development, and our kurdish brothers are aware of that.
We condemn all the criminals wheather they are jews or turkish or americans or kurdish or whatever. They all need to be condemned and finished.

I assure you that Kurdish people have alot of great muslims like Salahuddeen, and these muslims love the current Turkish government and the current Turkish government love them, too.

We love one another in God and huminity. We have believed in God and followed His messenger and we are not ready to get out of His religion.

We are brothers in Islam, and the Kurds will have their rights back as soon as possible. They are aware of that.

The problem in Turkey is that there are people who are ignorant hateful racist who are very far away from Islamic teachings, and these people are loyal to the jews, and they cause all the problems. They are even against Justice and development which is pro-peace, pro-huminity.

 

@PoliteTeen: So Turkey is bad? Or Good? Good when they stand united with Muslims against Israel, bad when they slaughter your fellow Muslim Kurds? Bad when they break from Islamic Teachings, Good when they adhere to them?

Would you call them 50% bad 50% good, or would you put it more at 30/70? 80/20? You should put together a little flash application where people can punch in a country's value system to see if they are bad or good. It would be quite humorous.

 

Israel is the last fascist state in the world.In Turkey we have no difference between Kurds and Turks , we don't see ourselves as different but in Israel it is different , the Arabs are oppressed.
Hebrews always see themselves as different for example look at obamanation she/he is in Usa but will possibly support Israel more than Usa that explains us why most of the Usa's sources are transferred to Israel and the Pro-Israel lobbies.

 

How much, exactly, is "most" of the USA's resources? Perhaps this much?

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/3432.htm

For your information, I support all of the USA's allies including Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt, even though I recognize their flaws(and ours). If and when Turkey starts demonstrating a real desire to side with the Islamists, they will cease to receive the support of the US, NATO, and people like me.

 

I think it's pretty clear by now who's Turkey siding with. They are leaning heavily towards the extremist islamic side, a couple of years now.

 

AMMAN: The 12 Malaysians detained by Israel Defence forces while on board aid ship Mavi Marmara should return home on Sunday morning, said Foreign Minister Datuk Seri Anifah Aman.

He said the storming by Israel of the Gaza-bound humanitarian aid vessel with Malaysian and other volunteers on board has truly opened the eyes of the world to the brutality of the Israeli regime.

He said some people in Europe, for example, might not have been too sympathetic over the plight of the Palestinians but Monday's deadly pre-dawn attack had "opened their eyes, ears and minds".

"We truly hope that this will eventually lead to a better future for the people in Gaza and Palestinians as a whole," he told Bernama in praising the 12 Malaysian volunteers for their courage.

Anifah said this at a gathering with the volunteers, freed by Israeli authorities Wednesday morning, soon after his arrival in Amman.

The event was marked by a telephone conversation between the minister and the leader of the group, Noor Azman Muhamad Samsuddin, and Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak, who is in Laos on an official visit.

Noor Azman could be heard briefly telling Najib about what transpired during the dramatic Israeli assault, and thanking the Malaysian government for its effort in securing the release of the 12 volunteers.

Source: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/6/3/nation/20100603112517&sec=nation

The biggest mistake that the IOF did was to attack a ship which has Malaysian passengers. Now the world will know what the IOF did on that fateful day. A special Astro show is due to be aired with the 12 Malaysians recounting their experiences during the flotilla attack.

 

Turk's have always been on the side of poor and who needs help , If you check you history when you were exiled from Spain , The Ottoman Empire accepted your people.