Shocking rates of sexual abuse in south Australia’s tribal lands (Alexispetrov)

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by george.UK, May 27, 2010.

  1. luke12

    luke12 Member

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    #21
    Again, this has turned into a religious mishap...maybe next time find a better title.

    George, as I understand, you're a Muslim but I keep wondering why do you call yourself George? You should know better that this is a brave Christian name.

    With all respect, Your knowledge of the Quran, history of Mohammed and the bible are very limited so I advice you to talk within your range of knowledge.

    So you assume since the menstruation cycle begins at the age of 12 then that means it is time for a sexual relationship?
    Mohammed married Aisha at the age of 6 or 8 (still debated). Have you ever seen a 6 or an 8 year old? Do you really think if he touched her then...she would tell the difference? She was still an innocent young child. In fact, if you read more about it, you'll understand from his behaviour that he was clearly in a relationship.

    Bible never mentioned alcohol was forbidden. It is very clear. It mentioned it should be taken wisely and it is a sin if you allow it to take control over you.

    Also, you mention that the Quran is the only book on earth that is not changed without a single word changed.
    I hate to break it to you but do you know the unique version of the Quran was ordered to be burned after Muhammed's death? Even the guy who was in charged of reciting the quran was killed. That means what you're reading today..went through a whole series of manipulations and compiling different version from different people with various opinions. You still think it was preserved as it was sent?

    Finally, please stop blaming the US for everything...

    God bless you,
     
    luke12, May 29, 2010 IP
  2. wmghori

    wmghori Well-Known Member

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    #22
    Can you provide a source for that? Name of that reciter? Ordered to be burned by whom? Who executed that order?

    The event you are mentioning is impossible to take place. As Quran was compiled into written form almost after fifteen years of Muhammad's death. And every follower of Muhammad at that time know it by heart. Its not OT that no one remember it by heart. And if the church want to omit some verses in NT, no one will object. Muhammad's follower would have killed even Abu-Bakar for this crime without hesitation, who was the most trusted companion of Muhammad. Its not that people haven't tried to corrupt Quran in past and present. It simply can't get corrupted because in every era there are millions of Muslims who knows Quran by heart.

    So post a reference to a reliable source (more than one well known historian on this matter) not a hate site. Or else quite posting crap.
     
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  3. luke12

    luke12 Member

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    #23
    I am going to refer you to 2 pages that describe this in more details with names, islamic references, dates and the whole events. I'd rather you read everything from the beginning and with details.

    page 1
    page 2
     
    luke12, May 30, 2010 IP
  4. samser_m

    samser_m Well-Known Member

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    #24
    lol really! :D

    Misleading than nothing! Both sites are powered by non-muslims organization. Any Muslim people can understand the differences. Both sites don't provide even whois info correctly!
     
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    masterrio Well-Known Member

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    #25
    so one is an idiot, you want others to continue with these idiotic discussions again and again ?
     
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  6. luke12

    luke12 Member

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    #26
    Are you serious? The site answers your questions using ISLAMIC references- that's what is important. The site itself is not important. I'm not relying my answer on those sites. I knew about it from my studies of Islamic books. Sahih al hadith is the second most trusted islamic book, so you should refer to it.
     
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  7. luke12

    luke12 Member

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    #27
    If you don't take islamic references as a reliable source...then what else do you need?
    I did not understand what you were saying and what was your point. The original version by muhammed was burned.
     
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  8. samser_m

    samser_m Well-Known Member

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    #28
    Obviously! anyone can register a domain and place some link/references in order to make it similar. Its quite obvious. Why both sites are hiding their whois info? why there is no contact info? something fishy! look at http://whyislam.org/ now. There is proper contact info, not like those craps.

    secondly, this is not first time I am visiting answer-islam, after looking at the site first years ago, understood how someone can spread misleading info among specially non-Muslims. Those who are new to Islam can easily misguided, even I have seen a hand written fake quran (naujubillah min jalik).
     
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  9. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #29
    There does appear to be a reference to the Quran being burned in Wikipedia:

     
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  10. alexispetrov

    alexispetrov Peon

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    #30
    Terribly sorry - I haven't been around the forums very much this week. When this thread was posted I was battling a severe hang over after which I found myself under the weather. (My defacto in laws live next door, I suspect they passed on a cold to me - it is Winter here now.)

    To begin;

    george.UK - I agreed with you that the sex crimes committed by Aboriginals here are absolutely out of control. I have said it before, many times - and I will say it again - within these "communities" or tribes, more accurately, women and children are repeatedly assaulted both physically and sexually.

    If you would care to imagine the abuse that happens within certain cults - this is close to what these people live like.

    Now - as to the solution to the problem - it's simple. Take every child that is living in one of these tribes away, protect them, foster them and provide them with a safe home. While sexual abuse does occur in some families it is far less frequent than in Aboriginal "communities".

    Sadly, the government will not do this. Many years ago children were taken. They became the "stolen generation".

    We have been branded racists for a scheme set up to give them food stamps and the like so they would be unable to buy alcohol - this was largely scrapped as we were called racists, branded so by the rest of the god damned world - despite the fact that alcohol is a huge contributor in the abuse in these places.

    Aboriginals who continue to live in these places refuse to live by the law or adapt to modern, civilized times. Yes, bad shit happened to their grandparents - now they get a HUGE amount of free money and never have to work in their lives and so choose to do nothing.

    It sickens me. I hate them - they are disgusting and continue to become more abusive each and every generation able to continue.

    There ARE good Aboriginals - many of them - but they live outside these old tribes. They seek education. They don't bash people then steal $6 for petrol.

    THAT is my answer. I have always been in favor of stopping this, but the acts required to do so would see us condemned yet again, called racists once again and basically attacked from every angle by the rest of the world.

    Any other questions you've got for me, I'll be happy to answer.

    PS - I don't have a religion. Australia is largely atheist and agnostic with some Christians, although largely not practicing. Aboriginals also have no religion; not the ones in these communities anyway - those who have evolved are sometimes Christian, but they aren't the tribal people raping kids. This isn't a religious thing, it's a sick inbred tribal thing that animals do.
     
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    #31
    PS=PlayStation
     
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    #32
    Very wise answer I was thinking you might get offended because this thread specifically asking your opinion.

    P.S= Post Script! are you playing stupid? lolx
     
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  13. alexispetrov

    alexispetrov Peon

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    #33
    Thank you :)

    The OP had somehow gotten it into his head that I thought it wasn't a huge issue or that I was somehow not against it.

    The "PS = Playstation" post was just a lame way to raise someone's post count, me thinks ^-^;
     
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    #34
    It was funny though :)
     
    Realm, Jun 16, 2010 IP