Article Spinner - Which one do you use?

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by Mentis, May 21, 2010.

  1. #1
    I'm about to buy The Best Spinner (thebestspinner.com), but before I do, I want your opinions and experience with other spinners as well as The Best Spinner.

    I'm not trying just to spin the articles, but to change phrases with synonyms - actually that's why I need it for.

    So please just name some (paid or free - even better), so I can choose which one's best.

    Thanks,
    Mentis
     
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  2. Dan Bainbridge

    Dan Bainbridge Active Member

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    The Best Spinner :) I use it and LOVE it :)

    Used to use JetSpinner - it is free, and it will totally do the job, but it is more manual, and I converted over to The Best Spinner and never looked back - I now use it to spin all of our articles for affiliates to use - obviously it still requires you to do the work but it has a lot of features - I watched the video on the sales page (http://www.thebestspinner.com/) and got over excited and bought it on the spot :) However I believe that if you look around the warrior forum you can probably find a 50% discount coupon for it in peoples signatures.
     
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  3. Mentis

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    Thanks for the input, I will search around for that coupon. ;) Thanks again :cool:
     
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  4. rammbhat

    rammbhat Active Member

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    Let me tell you a story

    There once lived a boy called mentis, he decided to buy an article spinner. All his articles got rejected by article directories and he got banned. He got very depressed and killed himself. the end!

    Moral of the story : Article spinners are crap, If you really want synonyms use the thesaurus in word. Article spinners are not context sensitive and will produce absolute unreadable gibbersh!
     
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  5. Mentis

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    LOL, I actually don't agree with you at all. Have you ever tried out spinners? -> (the most important question)
    What's the difference between The Best Spinner synonyms and Word synonyms??? I actually think that The Best Spinner is way better. Look at @submp3s's post, he loved The Best Spinner and he can tell because he used it. Go watch the video on www.thebestspinner.com, then I will look forward to hear your opinion again.
     
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  6. Dan Bainbridge

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    If your goal is backlinks rather than quality artices to bring you traffic then spinners are fine. Rammbhat does have a point though - I would NEVER suggest submitting to EZA, to be on the safe side I wouldnt with Articles base, Go articles and maybe some other quality ones, but to use something to fire them out to 50-100 other directories then this will be fine - they will not all get accepted but you will get backlinks from it.

    One I used to use a LOT was Article Marketing Automation: http://www.articlemarketingautomation.com/mainv1

    It is basically a spinner, but connected to its own wordpress blog network (real blogs - you can also hook up your own blogs to receive articles) so your articles definitely get accepted and appear on a wide range of sites. When I started using this over 18 months ago it increased my search traffic by 50% and brought me from pages 2-3 on google into the top 10 for my core keywords, and top 5 for some too - a great tool in my opinion and something I would recommend to anyone expirimenting with article marketing and trying to rank their article based sites.
     
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  7. rammbhat

    rammbhat Active Member

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    Look.. ANY spinner you buy for articles are generally build with the intention of SELLING. So at best they'll throw a bunch of synonyms and not care if the synonyms MEAN anything. I HAVE tried these spinners before. I remember vividly one of my articles had a name - John Smith, and it substituted that with Toilet Smith! John = Toilet is a valid synonym! but John Smith = Toilet smith is just hilarious! None of these spinners are Intelligent! Even if they DO claim to be. And yea, if you want a ton of backlinks use it. But the question is how highly do you think a backlink from a site which accepts Toilet Smith be worth? You think page rank is dumb? Isn't it better to have a few GOOD backlinks from a reputed page? Think about these things before littering the web with gibberish..
     
    rammbhat, May 22, 2010 IP
  8. Dan Bainbridge

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    Definitely better to have a decent number of quality links rather than 1000s of links back from PR0s, but not ALL spinners are automated - The Best Spinner isn't - you still do all of the work, it just makes it a little easier for you - watch the video on the top of the page http://www.articlemarketingautomation.com/mainv1 and youll see that you write the artices, it gives you options, but you choose ultimately. One level of automation I use is the "favourites" - so if you write about the same areas then you can set your own favourite replacements and generate those automatically when you put a new article in, but again these will be better quality than the "Toilet Smith" automation it might pick :) Spun articles don't have to be total rubbish - if you keep that level of control yourself.
     
    Dan Bainbridge, May 22, 2010 IP
  9. Mentis

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    I'm aware that those spinners can do ridiculous change of some synonyms (but The Best Spinner is offering manually choice of synonyms), so actually I will do it manually and I will know which synonyms to choose. I think I need program like this so I will buy it during the next week (77$ per year is nothing). I will use those spins for backlinks and I will make my articles about 35% unique. However, I won't be using EZA, but any other do-follow article directories, because I'm aware of EZA terms & conditions. However, thanks for your posts.
     
    Mentis, May 22, 2010 IP
  10. GeorgR.

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    I dont think there's anything better right now than TBS.
     
    GeorgR., May 22, 2010 IP
  11. evelinawilliams007

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    I don't think article spinners are effective .. In fact they're completely useless.

    I totally agree with rammbhat.

    Most article directories will disapprove your articles and I hardly see any point in churning out articles that won't get accepted, apart from that you're writing copy that HAS to sell, you're not writing for the search engines.

    Al.
     
    evelinawilliams007, May 23, 2010 IP
  12. Dan Bainbridge

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    I would never say don't do some quality article marketing. I definitely would, and do. I think there are different levels though:

    • Best: Your own sites, make sure they are 100% unique, content rich, well researched, keyworded, and have excellent grammar, spelling.. also look good / good design etc - Top quality 10/10
    • Good: Core backlinks - take your time and write some nice material and submit it to web2.0 sites and main article directories, even build a few backlinks to these sites to get yourself some nice, high PR backlinks - Good quality 9/10
    • Decent: Writing your own artices or getting them written to a decent level. Don't need to be perfect, but should be keyword researched, and benefit driven, and simple - used to get traffic mostly from EZA and decent article directories. Quality is 7 or 8 /10
    • Average: Spinning :) Quality drops here, you have some strong good quality backlinks, and these serve just to get your numbers up a bit more, fairly easily. Quality drops to 5 or 6 / 10, but imo it doesn't matter so much as these artices will not actually be seen by many and stay in the background of the internet, but they have worked for me and brought me a very considerable increase in search rank.

    I'm not saying ONLY do spinning, I'm not saying DON'T do quality seo work, or write good articles - but I think spinning can and should be part of an seo mix - the quality artices get you good backlinks from good PR pages and traffic, the spun articles, the paid directory submissions, the mass article submissions just add more variety to your backlinking, and not all of these sites are Pr)s anyway, you will get some PR1 and PR2 backlinks..

    Anyway, the above points are a very rough outline of my seo method, and one I have used / grown over nearly 3 years. It works for me, I do understand about the need for quality content and spinning certainly shouldn't be the only article / seo work you do, but it plays it's part - an important part to me.
     
    Dan Bainbridge, May 23, 2010 IP
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    You can try spinning but dont depend entirely on it The best spinner is obviously the best one in the market today, but easyarticlespinner.net is a good tool as well. It is pretty reliable, I cant believe myself that it is free.
     
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  14. Mentis

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    Why they would do that? I've submitted a couple same articles from EZA to different article directories and they get approved (some of them even get a backlink to my main one). Why would I be rejected if I change the article with synonyms like 50-60%, and doing it manually, it's like rewriting it with my own words. I don't understand...
     
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  15. tkboy101

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    Hey my peeps!!
    I use Rapid Rewriter, by Matt Carter... So far I've got nothing but GOOD to say about this thing. The only beef I have with it, is it's very time consuming to properly seed an article that will make sense for all 200 spins.

    But seriously, I use it, and so far, NONE of my articles have been rejected, and I've got some nice backlinks now. You can expect to spend about 5 hours properly seeding a 500 word article. The reason for this, is because it not only spins words, but sentences as well, and even has the option of making entire paragraphs and sentences optional! So for my routine, If I want TONS of quality articles, I seed an article with each sentence having about 4 unique sentences, and within those 4 sentences, I spin each word. Needless to say, every time my articles come out, they make total sense and they don't even appear spun. Of course, it's always a good idea ANYWAY, to read over an article and make any necessary small changes before you go submit. My favorite thing, is that it runs on Mac AND PC. (I use Mac)

    I love it. :D
     
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  16. J1218

    J1218 Well-Known Member

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    To everyone saying article spinners are crap, they won't get accepted, they are worthless etc:

    There's a huge difference with using a crappy article spinner that automatically throws in random synonyms that don't even make sense, and an article spinner that is controlled by the USER themselves.

    Think about it for a minute, you have a sentence in the article that says: "My favorite method of making money online is by writing articles."

    You then MANUALLY spin this sentence with a tool like The Best Spinner so it reads something like this: "My {favorite|preferred} {method|way|technique} of {making|earning|creating} {money|an income|cash} {online|on the internet|on the web} is by {writing|drafting|composing} articles.

    Now that original sentence is able to be turned into a variety of combinations and they still all make sense. Why do you people feel that this is crap and won't get accepted by an article directory? How the hell are they going to know you used some tool to make a variation of the article? They don't care as long as you know how to properly spin the article so it's still readable and makes sense.

    I don't know about the rest of you, but if I can take 1 article and spend 20 minutes spinning it to produce 50-100 unique articles that all read just as good as the original, why would I waste my time writing 50-100 unique articles from scratch? It just doesn't add up and is a classic example of working hard (and dumb) as opposed to smart.

    I do agree that for your own site you should write a 100% unique article and use the spun versions for backlinks, but the point is, spun articles are fine as long as you do it manually and using a tool like TBS just makes it that much easier.

    Go and watch the video on TheBestSpinner.com and you will see that it's a perfectly legit way of spinning your articles and they come out reading perfectly fine.
     
    J1218, May 24, 2010 IP
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    Thank you..

    Just to add to this...
    And I may get people who disagree, though I wouldn't understand why.

    Just as he said, I'll rephrase... any failure to create a spun set of articles that make sense, is user error. It's not hard to read over your seed article, and figure out of each variation will make sense or not.

    Article spinners are not designed (and shouldn't be, until we have AI technology that can do it) to find contextually relevant synonyms. Some article spinning software (like TBS and RR) have a database of synonyms, which can grow as you utilize them... and they let you manually select each synonym. You, the user have full control over the "sense" your articles make when spun. Unless you're lazy and just select every synonym provided, you should get 100% understandable articles that make sense.

    The GOOD article spinners will come with some kind of video tutorial (like TBS and RR) and you'll be ready to go in no time. I don't want to hate on anyone... but really, article spinners are tools we as internet marketers can utilize to save TONS of time and money, and I highly recommend them for anyone wishing to optimize their time online.

    Moral of the story... do it right.

    Tkboy101
     
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  19. ExpertForumGuy

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    You really don't know your facts bro. The best article spinners are completely readable, the thign is the "seed" articles just take a lot of work to produce.
     
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    ExpertForumGuy Well-Known Member

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    Wow that's alot of work, haha.
     
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