Slap on the face of all those who are celebrating "Draw Muhammad Day"

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by george.UK, May 19, 2010.

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  1. iminphils

    iminphils Peon

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    #21
    Muslims have no right to tell anyone else what they may and may not do. If they don't want to draw pictures of their prophet, they don't have to, but they have no business imposing their stupid beliefs on others. They're just about ALL a bunch of fanatics trying to intimidate the world with threats of violence. Muslims are the only group that behaves this way when somebody goes against their wishes. They can kiss my grits.
     
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  2. jesi

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    #22
    Yes english is not my mother language but i had tried to explain that no body should try to do something bad or immoral even for any religion. suppose you are a chiris, but you would never try to disrespect the other religion, you would never try to make jokes against the holy personalities of any religion. just respect other's God and get the respect for your own god.
     
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    #23
    What about atheist? Since we have no gods and have no morals at all..we can do anything? ;)
     
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    #24
    but nobody deserve to do something like this, even it has God or not. but the respect and limits are for everyone as the law implements on each of civilians. so they have a right to protest or fight against the people who are doing such wrong deeds.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #25
    But the law does not say anything about this(at least in most countries). You most definitely have the right to protest, but I would ask what you mean when you use the word "fight". There have been repeated attempts by Muslims to murder the dutch artists who produced pictures of Mohammad. Is this what you mean when you use the word fight? If not, what do you think of the muslims who tried to murder the artists who drew Mohammad? What do you think of the MANY MANY MANY more muslims who called for those artist's deaths?
     
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    #26
    "Fight" means the war against the people insulting the religion, it is the war for religion as many countries fight for their country. as country is important to all, religion is more important too. so it would be called the War for Religion against those who don't stop their nation to do such acts.

    and this war should be held by the muslims governments but if a government is sleeping at all and never going to do action then the people individually are taught to fight against those for the safety of religion's respect
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #27
    So you think those who do something contrary to Islam need to be killed, preferably by governments run by Muslims, but if the governments are unwilling to commit this murder, than individual Muslims need to take it upon themselves. I think what you are saying here reflects a commonly held belief in western nations about Muslims, but I'd like to thank you for making it clear for us.
     
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    #28
    Yes exactly but thats not our personal view, thats the base of Islam. Islam gives the path or ordered it's believers to fight against the enemies of Islam. but there are clearly described everything in this religion that Muslims should offer non-muslims to join Islam, other wise they have to pay tribute or sinecure tax implemented on non Muslim subjects by Islam. If non muslims don't accept any of these two offers (Joining of Islam and paying the tribute tax (religious tax) to muslims governments) then they have to be called to prepare for war. But also Muslims are taught to live calmly and to keep peace in the world.

    any how that was not our topic, the conversation surrounding the draws should be end or continue with the positive sense instead of negative. muslims are on a right discuss that no religion should be insulted by any one. whereas european are on a negative hand that if they insult any religion then no issue.
     
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    #29
    Thats what I have been saying all the time, the problem is not with Muslims, its with Islam.


    Lets see:
    Muslims: Extort money or call to fight. (Your own words)
    Non-Muslims: Make Cartoons and have a laugh.

    Does me putting it in Simple terms make any sense to you? Or any Muslim?
     
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    #30
    Of course. As Vebtools says, it is not religion that is the problem, it is bad people like the hateful people who draw these pictures of Mohammad, for instance. Muslims are fighting, protesting, rioting and burning flags of other nations in an effort to live calmly and keep peace in the world. Muslims must fight for peace, even if it means killing every last hateful infidel who defiles Islam.
     
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    #31
    So you think Islam and Muslims are two different objects?
    no doubt that Muslims are definitely believers of Islam and acts the lessons of Islam. so the problem with Islam is basically the problems with muslims


    that is a big point that muslims are just treating or behaving europeans calmly. it means Muslim nation actually wants peace even they should take a serious action but they are silent and just protesting that europeans/etc should not do such cheap acts.
     
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    #32
    Simply.. Muslims are never going to be furious to any one without any solid reason. I offer, don't do bad or negative for muslims and you will never get even a single bad word from muslims. they will be living peacefully ever and ever.
    what do you think, is it right for those who are doing that wrong thing. do you mean they are not wrong?
    if you admit that they are wrong then what do you want, that leave them on their positions and don't they need to be asked not to do so?
    do you mean that they are wrong but their wrong is RIGHT but if muslims take step against this insult then their right act is WRONG?

    never have a look preferring to any one, but glance all the things on the scale of equality. all are equal even they are muslims, non muslims, english, arabic, poor, rich, asian or whatever. no one is more important bcz he is english, american etc, and no one is unimportant or cheap if it is asian, arabic, indian or chinese.
     
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    #33
    Right. Don't do bad or negative for muslims and we will never get a single bad word, otherwise Islam orders that the infidels be killed. Thinking about your earlier post, shouldnt the rest of the world be paying taxes right now for being non-islamic? The pictures of Mohammad aside, what about all those tax dollars?
     
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    #34
    It ain't hurting anyone by just drawing a picture of Muhammad.
     
    looking4vps, May 22, 2010 IP
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