Do you even know and saw that there are terrorist camps? If I tell you that in Israel 1000 terrorists camps who are sending terrorists to the whole world! It is just what you hear, now if you want to close your mind then it is up to. And you can beleive on anything you like no one cares what you say or think. P.S: Can't you live all peacefully without crap talking about any religion, country or nation. Look at what this make you give? Nothing!
Are you kiddin me? Pakistan need to fix all this ... Pak needs to learn to rule their own backyward before dreaming of ruling the world.
come one how could they breach their own contract with users? and after 20th May they delete the page and said we are disappointed because we have not received any warning. more than 40,000+ report against that page was sent. lolzzz!!! we was talking about the world "unjust" not about the judgment day. you have said that Quran says killing a non muslims is not "unjust" i wanna know where did it is written?? and all the story you have written above its related to Judgment day where there will be war b/w Muslims and Jews. and i believe its happening if we see around the world. the word fight is clearly used. there is no written to kill innocent but those who kill you let me show you from Quran Fight those in the way of God who fight you, but do not be aggressive: God does not like aggressors. (190) And fight those (who fight you) wheresoever you find them, and expel them from the place they had turned you out from. Oppression is worse than killing. Do not fight them by the Holy Mosque unless they fight you there. If they do, then slay them: Such is the requital for unbelievers. (191) But if they desist, God is forgiving and kind. (192) Fight them till sedition comes to end, and the law of God (prevails). If they desist, then cease to be hostile, except against those who oppress. (193) all clear? now show me the ayyat of Quran where it is written killing a non muslims is not "unjust"
I am a Muslim boy, just a normal student. When my religion is insulted, it is me who is insulted. I can live without Facebook but I definitely cannot live in humiliation. I am with my country on this and if Facebook does not take action on this, then ban or no ban, I would never go back to it anyway.
thanks a lot Vebtools for response me. I think something missed in your verse of Ma'ida. if you read Chapter 5: AL-MAEDA (THE TABLE) will find that God asked Mohammad to tell Jewish people there the real story of two sons of Adam (first human). I bring previous verses for more undrestanding.
here you are Koran has some other verses related to resurrection but guess these verses are enough for you.
actually i am following http://tanzil.info/ there are more than one translation style so may be different. Any ways thanks for write the whole story.
Not going back to facebook would be your choice. How about the choice of those in your country who are not Muslim and are not insulted? Do you care about their choice? What you are really celebrating is the oppression of minorities within your country. That is called bigotry.
Again? Is it hard to understand that "they do it too" is not a way of justifying a wrong thing? Can't you live without sending terrorists in my country? Can you punish those who killed people in my country? No? Then be prepared to listen crap about your country.
i felt very bad in these 2 days as i said i ll not come back to forum again i went to a Islamic Lawyer panel and discussed on what Helvetii show me i decided to go to high court against superfrankie the original poster panel said we he is not abusing anyone's God he just LOLs on his friend this is between two friends one like one God and one like many Gods the one who likes one laughing his friends attitude his friend and his friends believe is not God Again search and bring that abuses God not a Friend who believes anther God user Obamanation said that my God is speech free first we go to cartoonist blog http://mollynorris.com/ i do not need to comment on it secondly yes you are speech free can you discus on holocaust......? if you still think that you can discuss then you need to read your country law one thing do you know Muslim community want to build masque near 0 point where 9/11 held ? and read the news why most people whom relatives died in 9/11 they say that there should not be masque ?? only you have feelings we have not ? we in Pakistan also face many self bomb blasters our relatives are dying we are effected more then you by terrorism. what you think we love them ?? No our army fighting against them who was osama read comment about him said by Ahmmedi Nayad Irani presedent saying" OH o Osama who meet bush and they decided to do business of oil using Afghanistan? i hear osama now a days living in Washington" Rabeeca if you are Irani be sure mosvi is not using facebook if if some one said he is lying have you read Quran ? when our prophet peace be upon him make two families brothers with each other one yahoodi cam into them and introduced them there past and they again declare war and our prophet told them what they were going to do so they shamed on there selves. lets come back to face book i shared this URL http://hubpages.com/hub/Facebook-blocked-in-Pakistan as a source i do not need to comment just read the last line that is the sentence making Muslims terrorists do not unsafe yourself blaming Muslims hate them but not there religion or hate there religions but not in the manners you are using like cartoons etc etc do you know no one have cartooned Esa Ibne Maryam peace be upon him Why???? we told that if you abuse or refuse any messenger of God you ll be out from your religion Islam No again lets say who have right of speech free if you go and discus holocaust Stop your behave with Muslims you ll be safe leave Afghanistan you ll be safe History says Afghanistan is a graveyard for superpowers and forget about hot water you ll be safe due to your operation in Afghanistan and as we Pakistanis are your united friend we are facing deaths of our beloved ones more then you
What has India done to Muslims? It's actually helping in building a new Afghanistan at its own expense.
I memories the whole Quran. Insha Allah after my ACCA i will start translation, thats why i use this web there are lot of option and translation by different scholars
@wajid_pk: You seem like a reasonable guy, so I'll give you a reasonable response. Free speech is free speech, period. I don't care if you are talking about the Holocaust, Muslims, or Christians, in the west, you are free to speak your mind, even if what you have to say is highly offensive to someone or a whole group of people. If by referring to the holocaust, you are referring to Germany's law making holocaust denial illegal, that too is a law I don't approve of. Regarding Afghanistan and Pakistan's fight against terrorists, good for you. Some fights are worth fighting, and as you said, if you don't fight, you in Pakistan will feel the effects of those people much more than we will here in the west. As far as the rest of your warnings, telling us to stop our offensive behavior to Muslims and leave Afghanistan for our own safety, let me say this. The behavior will NEVER stop. EVER. Here in the US, homosexuals will be freely walking the streets, people will be busily drawing pictures of Mohammad if they so choose, some will burn the flag (of our nation and perhaps yours), some will be busily explaining why the [insert race of choice](Jews, Mexicans, Arabs, Whites, Blacks, etc) are the cause of all the worlds problems, some will be pimping Christ or Mohammad as the solution to your problems. We will leave Afghanistan sooner or later but it certainly will not be for fear of our safety, but rather because it will have been considered to expensive to be worth the effort. It is possible, and perhaps likely, that when we leave Afghanistan, women will once again be forbidden from schools, and people will be flogged and shot for infractions against Islam such as singing or speaking. Perhaps that doesn't bother you, but as you say, these are your brothers and sisters. [Edit]By the way, you should check out the Politcal Joke thread. There you'll find a Jew wrote a rather funny and tasteless joke about packing Jews into the ashtray of a Volkswagen (German car). You seem to like to use the Holocaust as an example of something that it is ok to censor, but you clearly have it all wrong.
60 years ago there was not Pakistan Muslims were holding all this area for 1000 years and then 100 year hold British Indian and Pakistani all these things are about circumstance we were together since more then 1000 years. do not try to start a new fight between Pakistanis and Indians we warned 1400 years ago that when they will feel that they do not have a thing to say then they will try you to start a circumstance clash at Public level we do not have an issue with India we are doing business while our armies are on borders both side
When we talk about free speech we must care that no one hurt through your dead. Like facebook breach their own contract with facebook member. Facebook term and ocndition Facebook is governed under its Terms of Services. Item 3.7 of Facebook TOS says “You will not post content that: is hateful, threatening, or pornographic; incites violence; or contains nudity or graphic or gratuitous violence†see all these stuff which is against with their own TOS was happening and they have not take any action. what did wikipedia say about free speech check out: Wikipedia Notes: Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and by many state constitutions and state and federal laws. There are exceptions to these general protection, including the Miller test for obscenity, child pornography laws, speech that incites imminent danger, and regulation of commercial speech such as advertising. Within these limited areas, other limitations on free speech balance rights to free speech and other rights, such as protection from imminent or potential violence against particular persons (restrictions on fighting words), or the use of untruths to harm others (slander). Distinctions are often made between speech and other acts which may have symbolic significance.
The speech on facebook is not Advertising, and it certainly is not child pornography, it is not considered obscene per the Miller test. That leaves imminent danger. Unfortunately for the Muslims, threat of violence if you saying something you disagree with does not meet this criteria either. What IS a more fitting application for this clause is when you say, "If Facebook keeps this up, we all need to get together and kill an american". It is a direct call to violence, like the ones commonly put out by Muslims who say "Behead those who insult islam".
come one facebok breach their own rule and regulation Facebook term and ocndition Facebook is governed under its Terms of Services. Item 3.7 of Facebook TOS says “You will not post content that: is hateful, threatening, or pornographic; incites violence; or contains nudity or graphic or gratuitous violence†if we talk about free speech from your point of view than why facebook delete the page with in 20 mint which was against that event
Because, like the US federal government, they have a standard of what is considered "hate speech". For instance, if you and 40,000 of your Muslim friends start sending complaints to Facebook because I posted a picture of a bunny rabbit, claiming the picture of the rabbit is an insult to your religion and is, therefore, hate speech, they are going to tell you to piss off. Why? Because it is not hate speech by their standard. Here is maybe a better example of the different standards we use here in America to determine if something is wrong. If a female child attends primary school, that is not only ok, it is mandatory, to many of the Muslims in Afghanistan, it is very very wrong. How about this. We consider sex with a child a very serious crime... Your prophet, on the other hand, had no problem raping small children. Are you picking this up yet?
in the name of free speech basically they spread hate speech b/w people thats why Molly is saying again and again that she is not behind it and protest against it like Muslims are doing http://www.mollynorris.com/ making fun in the name of free speech is not allowed in Islam atleast, i dont know about your religion. because this act of people just spread hate around the world. come to the real example. Just image if there was not Prophet Muhammad cartoon but some one who is near your hut, how will you behave for that? dont change the topic because if Prophet Muhammad P.B.U.H marry with a kid then you should also know that Joseph, Mary's husband, was "90 years old" when he married 12 to 14-year old Mary!