Six weeks in and still stuck.

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Groovystar, May 18, 2010.

  1. #1
    well I have been doing lots of SEO onsite and offsite. We get a decent signup rate considering how few guests are visiting the forum since we moved to our new domain. But the guests just don't seem to be finding us at all. We are #4 {sometimes varies to #5} on Google for our main keyword, unless we get to #1 like our old site used to be we won't survive...I got lots of backlinks including at least 5 or 6 PR 5 links that are relevant, some extremely relevant. Is 6 weeks just not long enough to rank very high?

    Oh dear, we are so stuck! I do blogs, got my own blog even, I do daily twitter/facebook/directories/deviantart/blog comments once in a while {they all no follow so I don't bother much} youtube videos with my link, forum posting on many forums including highly relevant ones, and several reciprocal links with sites that are 2, 3, 4, and 5 PR.

    Oh boy. And still stuck at #4....
     
    Groovystar, May 18, 2010 IP
  2. Joe128139

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    #2
    Just keep pushing through. It seems to be harder and harder these days to make that final push to the top of google, don't get discouraged and keep doing what you're doing. Its a time consuming process for sure, but thats just the way it is.
     
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  3. Groovystar

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    I just want to know if I'm going about this the right way. Like if there's anything I'm missing or failing to do. I tried submitting an article to Hubpages, it was a legit article, I have several guides and things on my game that are genuinely written with quality in mind. But Hubpages was nofollow after all that trouble so instead I often tweet links to those articles on my twitter account.

    I know we should be up there because we USED to be #1, back on our old site before we moved and that site got deleted. The content is the same, we cloned the entire site over to the new server and have since added much more.
     
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    ~kev~ Well-Known Member

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    #4
    6 weeks? Its more like 6 months before you start to get any traffic. Most sites take 6 - 18 months before you start to rank very well, and the search engines start to actually send you traffic.
     
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  5. Groovystar

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    Wow. :p Then I guess I should consider myself lucky for being #4 now? Oh boy XD....Thing is that my site, is a forum and we need those visitors to see the place in order to want to sign up. We're going right now on the members we had from before the move. They are incredibly dedicated. Some are even helping me with promotion.

    We are listed as a PR 0, but I see some 0 sites in my niche which is not that competitive, rank pretty well.
     
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    dogtraining-guides.com Well-Known Member

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    send me your url and keywords, I will gladly take a look as well
     
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    etali Well-Known Member

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    After just six weeks I wouldn't worry too much. It can take a long time to get results. I suggest you keep plugging away at building quality incoming links, and see where you end up after the next pagerank update (which is probably a month or two away). It sounds like you're doing all the right things, so you should see results if you give it time.
     
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  8. Groovystar

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    Thanks I will send you the info Dogtraining Guides.

    ...That is the thing, I wish that there was actually something found wrong with my efforts, because then it would be something in my control that I could fix. I don't do anything nasty like spam links either, I have a forum and blog myself and I know how that feels to have that happen to me so I sure wouldn't do it to anybody else. I have begun to try to find members through other ways than just google, but it is hard and it is not coming at a "replacement" level.

    I have a small paid ad running with another gaming site as well, because an ad like that could bring in human traffic.
     
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    hi,

    I want bring up date you about this problem which you are facing for your website, See actually there is no problem if your website has #3, we can easily catch #4 but if you have #4 then we can't divert it easily because it's take lot time and lot of quality back links and this is rule and norms of all major Search Engine.

    So push your website as much as possible on onsite and offsite.
     
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  10. Groovystar

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    ...Trying to understand here, so if I am stuck at #3 it's better than being stuck at #4? Well, yes, the higher you are when you get stuck I would imagine, the better :p What do you mean by divert my website?
     
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    I am not an SEO expert but my fiance is and I do not think that six weeks is a considerable time as to be worried. I also would suggest that you start writing articles using your main keyword. There are so many forums online that with one more it will be tough to compete.
     
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    Sometimes SEO really takes time and patience is really needed in the process. The echniques you are doing seems nice so I don't see any problem with your SEO so just wait. I know you will reach what you are reaching for.
     
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  13. Groovystar

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    I and my members already have articles written on site, relating to our game and its topics. Again though, Hubpages is nofollow and I'd rather not waste time on sites like that...any dofollow sites I could submit material to?

    and thanks for the replies and encouragements. I sure need it after weeks of getting pretty much nowhere...

    The forum itself has actually been around 5 years, we just recently moved.
     
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  14. rainier

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    you need more subscribers to your forum and promote your forums on different forums too make sure it is relevant or you may ask help here....post your links here and ask them to visit your forums too, just make sure it is a free subscription.
     
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    Hubpages suck man!! Hubpages ask for traffic in order to follow your links.
     
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  16. Groovystar

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    yeah well I gave em an article that took me days to create, I gave em mine and now it's their turn to give a little back. If they won't, I'm moving on :p I got my site to promote, I got no time to promote theirs too XD

    Rainier: Yup, I got ads on several forums, those reciprocals you see down at the bottom of my board are almost all forums, related RPGs mostly. In addition I got a paid ad on another large RPG and sig-post regularly on about 6 other boards besides this.
     
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    Dude, If your site is new! It will take time to get some rankings, depending how competitive they keywords you are ranking for. It may take up a year if you continue working hard. Besides search engines are not the only traffic source around. Try other forums, social sites like facebook. On time, you will achieve your goals.
     
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  18. Groovystar

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    Yeah...so I'm hearing. I got to thinking it'd only be a couple months because I saw another site get up there to a pr 4 rank after less than 2 months. And it was one of my Proboards small forum reciprocal links. Small board, they suddenly got to PR 4. I figured if they can do it with a handful of links then I can with lots more promotion, many more links and especially much more content, in quality and quantity. We WERE up there before which is how I know we have the content to do it again. We got all our big links from before changed over to link to our new address plus I've added a shitload more. I mean a lot. Both low and high level links. I'm plugging this with all I got.

    I just be happy if we stay even, and keep our heads above water till our google rank restores or even not, I'd just be happy if we kept up our activity level but we're not..we are slowly sinking...

    i sit here hours and hours posting links, working on the site itself, sitting in my chair till im too hungry to continue, then i go eat then work then post some more...the worse we get the more i work at it....

    it is almost 4 am where im at right now. tomorrow morning imma be right up again and back in this chair for more.
     
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  19. nikomaster

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    Here is an advice:

    Do not worry to much regarding to Pagerank. Believe that page rank is not that important. Relevancy does. What you should do when you start a new website, is to make a deep keyword research. According to your main topic find all useful keywords that may attract interested visitors, optimize for all those keywords. Do not focus that much on competitive keywords, focus first on low competition keywords, on time you will rank for high competition keywords.
    Here is an example:
    If your site is about "dog training"
    focus on low competition keywords such as
    "agresive dog training"
    "dog training collar"
    "boxer dog training"

    Set a link structure basing on those keywords. Start link to your site using those keywords as anchor text. Link to different pages of your site.
    Believe me targeting low competition keyword on volume will give more traffic than targeting just one.
     
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  20. ZBastian08

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    just be careful for having a massive links in short of time might hurt. just a precaution. IMO
     
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