United States Heading towards a Depression?

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    #4541
    Both sides are equally determined to defend their own belief systems rather than challenging it. Both sides want to usually remain in the box. But many are waking up daily.
    I can no longer take sides or defend any party or political official and it's a huge mistake to put your focus on agendas designed to confuse.

    About Clinton: He was popular but so was Hitler when he started. He paid down what he paid down knowing there'd be a war coming. Someone had to keep the masses happy before disaster would strike.

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    One happy family on the same payroll.

    Clinton was also a murderer. http://www.theworldsprophecy.com/the-new-clinton-chronicles/

    As long as the majority of Americans support and idolize any of those fools, change will come harshly. Change will come regardless, but the sooner you realize the ties all political headliners have between each others (blood-related) and identify what causes the current fiasco, the better for you to enter the "new era" in a prepared manner.
     
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    #4542
    Actually, a MINORITY caused it; US Congress.
     
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    #4543
    I think its safe to say that Bush was to the left of Clinton in many ways. Ask Africa if the US govt. didn't administrate Social Justice under Bush.
     
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    #4544
    I'm going to have to stop you here and partially agree with your first statement, and disagree with you on the second.

    Need I remind you that it's the HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES that is responsible for the economy. And, historically, budgets are sane when the Congress & Presidency are different parties (like under Clinton), and budgets are INSANELY HIGH when Congress & the President are the same party (like we have now).

    The Clinton administration and the Republican Congress NEVER began the process of paying down the debt, because they never used the excess to pay off the debt. In the meantime, all they did was put us into debt slower.

    If I spend $1000 more than I make each month, and then this month I only spend $800 more than I make, that's not progress.

    What I want to see is Congress start taking our taxes and paying DOWN the national debt. If they don't, we will inevitably suffer the same fate as Greece.
     
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    #4546
    Er, what I want is them to just stop spending that $800, $1000 or whatever a month more than they take in. They don't need to use our tax dollars to pay down debt. Those tax dollars are there to pay for things like defending us for nutballs, and making sure we remain free. All they need do is stop spending what they do not have on things we do not want or need.

    Its really just that simple.
     
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    #4547
    They may still have time to do as prescribed above but indeed the iceberg looms large, amen.

    Whether it matters or not what really occurred was giving to the wealthy (Bush) and "billing" everyone else - the ones who voted for it and seemingly knew what they were doing, just did not realize it was being done to themselves than for their desire it be against the poor and unfortunate they have little regards for beyond their own needs, IMHO.
     
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    #4548
    Impossible to stop unless you look at the core issue, which is the Federal Reserve.
     
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    #4549
    I don't understand your point. I consider the core issue to be that Congress has absolutely no incentive to NOT spend money. How do you consider the Fed to be the core issue?
     
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    #4550

    They are not a government department, they just have the name, many people call them "the Fed" and believe they are a part of the
    FEDeral gòvernment. They are privately owned and whoever it is that runs them controls the economy. They loan to the largest banks, set the rates and generally tell everyone else what is going to happen with the money. Sure, Congress spends the money, but it is printed by "the Fed" which means America owes them ( the Fed ) everytime Congress authorizes another trillion dollar budget spending spree. The Fed prints up the money and Congress spends it. Meanwhile, who is going pay back ( you know.... :) ) the Fèd ?
     
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    #4551
    Everyone should be treated the same no matter what race or ethnicity its terrible to say what happen to the constitution
     
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    #4552
    100 percent of all Federal Income Tax goes to the Fed as interest payments on loans. Not to pay debt down. But interest. They print money and lend it to the American people. It's a drain, a black hole. And it's unconstitutional.
     
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    #4553
    Breezey, once you figure out that "wealth" is something that is created, not given, you'll be in a far better position to comment here. ;)
     
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    You have an excessively closed mind or are just an imbecile - try breathing occasionally.

    The unlimited inheritance tax repeal as a small example - Insuring unearned wealth while spending needlessly for wars, (off budget billing, via Republicans) - etc. etc. the lists and examples are endless associated with all the gov'ts: local, state and fed.
     
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    #4555
    WHY is it unconstitutional?

    and what's your solution? The gold standard?
     
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    #4556
    So what you are saying is, if I EARN (create) wealth the government should take it? Not my heirs? What does the Constitutional duty of the Commander In Chief defending the US have to do with this anyway? I'm really not sure I follow you. What you are saying is that the Federal government is entitled to my wealth, not my family? You're rambling now. What's your point?

    Remember this -

    "wealth" is something that is created, not given,....
     
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    #4557

    - Received an infraction for this post ^ (above).....? I guess I deserve the red letter as well. Excuse me DP.


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    The full repeal of the inheritance tax during a war and off budget funding is unwarranted and a small sliver to the monumental problems stemming from that administration. After 3 million, yes the rest can be used for medical needs of the unfortunate.


    The Republicans in the last two elections were handed their walking papers, I can respect those who are retrospective for the reason but for those who know no difference but blindly continue their ruinous course a democracy is meaningless for them and pity the countries with tinhorn Dictators.
     
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    #4558
    Did you know that you can get an infraction for bitching about an infraction?
    You can also get an infraction for complaining about Rep..


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    Really? You think that anything that belongs to someone else should be taken away once it hits a certain ceiling? Strange.
    Where I live, here in America - we choose to give as much as we choose to earn. We are not a socialist state.
    American's were unhappy with the way congress was running things. So they fired many of them. They are just as unhappy now, if not more. Expect more firings. This is on the both sides of the isle, not just one. I hate to burst your bubble here Breeze, but we are a representative republic, not a democracy. There's no democracy to ruin.
     
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    #4559

    That is correct and a repudiation of your philosophy - you lost power and pretend it did not happen, do not be so sure about November either but until then you are the party out of power - learn from your mistakes.


    DP - the infraction was warented.
     
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    I lost what? I did not realize I was in power.
    What exactly is warented? Does that have something to do with power?
     
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