nuclear swap deal

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    babak44 Active Member

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    yeah good news, I'm glad at last our government accepted UN resolution. in here a lot of rumors has about it, many people think they want to satisfy western power to do some jobs inside the country. as arrest opposition leaders, and more pressure on Iranian people. I guess this is just some rumors not more because less see western power support democracy in Iran.

    unfortunately seems new sanctions is in the way!
    http://www.economist.com/world/international/displayStory.cfm?story_id=16152554&source=features_box_main

     
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    Let them do what they want to do, if no one is stopping US, Russia, England.... then why Iran and Turkey
     
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    The sanctions are coming because it is more BS from Ahmadinijad. The idea behind swapping unenriched uranium for enriched uranium is to keep Iran from enriching it to the point necessary for weapons. Mahmoud's deal with Turkey allows him to continue enriching uranium, meaning he will be able to have nuclear power AND weapons, only faster now. Funny to watch them sell this as a good thing some how.

    @George: Your comment on this thread, and the other indicate you haven't the first clue about the consequences of a Nuclear Iran. Had you thought it out, you would realize Iran's constant threats to annihilate Israel will leave them no choice but to bomb Iran when they feel all diplomatic measures to prevent Iran's nuclear program have been exhausted. Iran's state sponsorship for terrorist organizations is well documented. I suppose you like the idea of an Iranian built dirty bomb being driven to the border of Israel, or put on a cargo ship to London?
     
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    @Obamanation excuse me , but all people on the world now see this told is lie , Iran don't dangerous than isreal or 10K Usa and Russian nuclear bombs ,
    Please forget this reasons ..
     
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    No additional country should be allowed to have nuclear bombs, specially Islamic Countries. Only that can ensure lasting peace.

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    alimosavi Banned

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    :) . Only one real way that can ensure lasting peace : no countries should have nuclear bombs ,
    when a country have this tools others try to will be have same , this is reality ,
     
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    Thats not realistic, preventing further additions to new club is realistic. Muslims countries are in a mess and there's always a chance of the weapons reaching the hands of radicals/terrorists.
     
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    alimosavi Banned

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    serious news follower know who support terrorist on the Middle East and why .. ( USA and NATO )

    But you can not tell : nuclear bomb is good for some and is bad for some others , ( you must know only usa was used nuclear bomb in Japan and Iraq )
     
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    Serious news followers ? Which news do you follow ? Please enlighten me when did USA drop a nuclear bomb in Iraq ?

    Also since you believe in Islam you should be the first one to condemn extremist Muslim terrorists . The people who kill little kids in Afghanistan because they want to go to school. The terrorist who place bombs in they ass and detonate them to again kill innocent people.
    The terrorist are you religion main enemy. Is not the USA.
     
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    Is anyone saying nuking Japan was a bad thing?
     
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    A lot more Japanese and Americans would had died if the USA didn't use the nuclear bomb. The downside is that a lot of civilians died. My opinion.
     
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    we have to rid of such weapons. as I see nuks powers are diminishing their arsenals and had international agreement to don't developments in this matter and no country has to add in the list.
     
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    Yes , US arm used uranium enriched in attack to Iraq .. and kill a lot of peoples .
    US bombing Nagasaki to scare others powerful countries like as Soviet and china , Japan ready to end war before nuclear bombing ,
    USA Medias Hide reality all time , you must see other resources about news and world events .
     
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    Would you have said the same if Japan nuked USA?

    Nuking of Japan to end war is comparable to thinking of killing all Muslims to end terrorism.

    Does it make sense now?
     
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    do you mean Japanese sources?
    anyway Japan invaded a lot of countries and killed innocents people in mass during world war two but we haven't done any assault to other countries at least during last 200 years ago. Hope it won't happen for us. Ahmadinejad just said he want to wipe Israel from the map maybe he meant from his paper map. beside in our map don't mentioned Israel but occupied Palestine, don't worry guys!
     
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    If Japan or Germany had possessed Nuclear weapons, they would have used them. Lets not forget who the aggressor in that little conflict was. Of interest is the fact there has been no World Wide conflict like WWII since their use. The events going on in Iran stand to upset that balance. IRDrupal obviously gets his news and history spoon fed to him at the Madrassa, so I wouldn't expect him to understand that.
     
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    The old related to old , i can provide some docs for Allied crimes , But this is related to old ,
    This is new world ,
    Peace is better than war , some groups in NATO try to make new war , But they can not because people now is free to share opinions to others ,

    What you see any problem in this told ?
    Nuclear power for all and nuclear bomb for no one .
     
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    If you think the nature of man has changed from the dawn of time, you are mistaken. Nuclear weapons for none is not realistic for a variety of reasons, and most acknowledge that. Iran, and the rest of the countries that do not have Nuclear weapons have survived nicely till now without them. I have yet to hear a compelling argument for the proliferation of Nuclear weapons. If Iran wanted only nuclear power, they could have their Uranium enriched by the US or any other current Nuclear power with almost no questions asked. It is hard to imagine a reason why Iran would want to retain it's enrichment capabilities if it didn't desire to build weapons.
     
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