Does anyone have an experience of getting really good written niche articles here?

Discussion in 'Copywriting' started by swarg, May 8, 2010.

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    I faced with strange fact - I cannot make article writers to do a research before writing. As result I'm getting weird articles that has nothing to do with reality and sometimes even articles that contain false facts. Do you have any real experience with writers here if you need very niche specific article? Do you pay the same almost standard rate $1/100 words?
     
    swarg, May 8, 2010 IP
  2. sameer-sj

    sameer-sj Active Member

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    It is hard to find writers who do research, but according to me the ones that actually do research before writing an article are the most dedicated and sincere ones.
    I always do research before writing articles for my clients and that is what makes them keep coming back again & again. The only problem though is that most article writers set very low prices, this attracts lots of clients but in the end, they fail to meet the demand. Quality, reliable and affordable writers are hard come by here on DP.
     
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  3. dyadvisor

    dyadvisor Peon

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    Please do NOT take my response as a personal matter or "prying". It is not.

    I can probably answer your question properly, but I need to ask you 3 questions first.

    1. Are you giving your writers topics plus two keyword phases?
    2. Have you instructed them the key 4 areas in the text to place these three items?
    3. What is your ROI, return on investment? How times per dollar do you pay workers, divided into the amount your client pays you? A rough estimate will do.
     
    dyadvisor, May 10, 2010 IP
  4. swarg

    swarg Peon

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    1. Yes, well defined topic with 4-5 key phrases and number how many times each keyword should be used to get required density
    2. No, why?
    3. Impossible to measure, but I pay more that it gives back to me at current stage )
     
    swarg, May 11, 2010 IP
  5. dyadvisor

    dyadvisor Peon

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    Swarg, these are only my opinions and years of experience. Whenever you do quality work, many will disagree.

    1. It sounds like you have the first part rather tightly nailed down. There is a way to close the gap tighter.
    A. do not have them write the most important part, the headline.
    2. Because of maximum effectiveness your prime keyword phrase of 3 to 5 words should be used at the front of the headline. To get your moneys work, first enter the a keyword phrase into Google.
    A. check to see the page rank of the first 5 listings. Examine these page rankings (if you do not have this automatically set, I can tell you how to do it free)
    B. See how many are below a PR of 2. If you are submitting to Ezine Articles a PR of 6 always wins. Otherwise choose enough one that does rank. This shows you where you could rank.
    3. Have your writer start the 1st sentence of content with these same best keyword phrase.
    4. Again this same keyword phrase should be in bold print near the center.
    5. Lastly have them use this again with the last 2 lines. You other keyword phrases scattered 3 times each on your 500 word article.

    6. Now you have an true SEO article worth more than 90% out there. Your article is worth a minimum of $10 more, so give a $2.50 bonus only if your directions are followed.

    Additional tips to follow or not. Never give your writer a topic. Your main keyword phrase is your topic. Then give the writer a sample of the quality writing you expect. Highlight in RED your main keyword phrase, and the others in Blue.
    You now have people that can follow directions standing in line. You pay a little more, and or a satisfied client improves effectiveness at least 50%. Hope that helps, Google and blogs will love your article.
     
    dyadvisor, May 11, 2010 IP
  6. swarg

    swarg Peon

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    dyadvisor, thank you for good advices. I have slightly different situation, when article is developed for my web site so it should be much more restictive, there is no a lot freedom for article for "contact us" page for example.
     
    swarg, May 12, 2010 IP
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    You are entirely correct. However on your keyword page your writing contains a drastic over use of keyword phrases, and your keywords message is being ignored.

    Yes, writing keyword pages for a website and keywords for a written article are in some ways different. Your problem is not so much with your writers, but your understanding of writing for web pages. I have developed a new post on keyword writing strategy, that uses your homepage as an example.

    In ten minutes, by quick personal adjustments, you could double your visitors. So when analyzed it is not the typical price problem, but a usage of words.

    Hope this helps
     
    dyadvisor, May 12, 2010 IP
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    Dyadvisor, thank you for sharing this. I really learned a lot.
     
    ricojoan, May 16, 2010 IP
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    Hello, as sameer-sj mentioned, it is pretty tough to get really original content around the net. If you ready to pay $7 per article, then my advice to you is to visit our website: abir.biz
    To start with, you can purchase one article and you will see the difference between recycled content and well-researched content ;)
     
    abir.biz, May 16, 2010 IP
  10. InkCreativeStudios

    InkCreativeStudios Greenhorn

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    Try textbroker.com or NeedAnArticle.com. If you want individuals and not a company, check out WorkPlaceLikeHome.com or WAHM.com in the forums. Post your job opportunity. You may have better luck there.

    I should note, that if anyone else tries to offer lower than $1 for 100 words, it won't be taken seriously. But $1 for 100 words is something that the new kids take up to gain experience. You won't get 'super high quality research' for that, but you'll get someone who will read one or two other articles, take what they learn, and write a fresh article. It's even better if you supply links to good research.

    If you want a really great article, you're looking for at least $15 an article. If they get lower than that, they may as well go write for Demand Studios or Break Studios or for one of their other steadier clients.

    I recommend reading from the forums over there first before posting. There are 'writing' folders and 'work at home job' folders. They're also very protective of each other, so do them right, and they'll be very loyal.
     
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    InkCreativeStudios, May 16, 2010 IP
  11. omarabid

    omarabid Well-Known Member

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    Simply said

    1. You get what you pay for: If you are looking for a "C# advanced tutorial", unique, with source code and original; then you should pay what it's worth. Has the developer spent 4 hours packaging it up? You should pay him at least $100.

    2. Pick the writer. He must be a developer. Has good English. Creative. Wrote previous/similar articles...
     
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  12. swarg

    swarg Peon

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    abir.biz, InkCreativeStudios,
    thank you for suggestions.

    omarabid,
    There is a big difference between unique article, well researched article, and professional article. To write professional article you should be a professional. Nothing else. To write unique article you should be a developer and be creative. My case is much simpler. Conduct research, get 2-3 articles related to my and compile it to one. This is it. After some "article" that I got from dp member with itrader 200+ I'm just afraid to pay more than $1 per 100 words. But maybe I should try. lol
     
    swarg, May 17, 2010 IP
  13. dyadvisor

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    SWARG: Checked your front page word usage on keywords. What an improvement you made!. For articles InkCreativeStudios is right.

    Now spend $10.00 , using my keyword guidelines, put on separate page to home and back linking. Title = Women discount fragrances and discounted fragrance for men. Discounts galore.
    Should get out a #6 to #10 Google ranking on article out of 5,800,000 for a Google search: women discount fragrances 5% possible market share. Not bad for a $10 investment.

    One suggestion for better rankings: Under the pictures, and in front of the word price. Add the word "discount" on 9 to read discount price. On your other products pictured, add the word "discounted", for discounted price.

    This will get you bettered rankings and more visitors. As internet shoppers want discount or discounted fragrances, and perfume. According to my indicators that is all that needs to be changed. Hope that helps.
     
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  14. omarabid

    omarabid Well-Known Member

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    So you are paying me $1 per 100 word to conduct research, compile, proof-read and send it to you? Not cool, it'll take me at least 5 hours; if the article is 500 words, I'm working at a $1/hour rate. If I exclude my computer, electricity, water, internet, home... then I'm working at a -$7 or -$10!!!

    Hi, Welcome Reality! Please be REAL.
     
    omarabid, May 18, 2010 IP
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    Hi everyone!

    If you are looking for cheap content in Polish, English or German please contact me by

    the price is 1 USD by 100 words, we have many writers so I can offer lots of content in different languages and in good quality.
     
    iseq, May 18, 2010 IP
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    You'd be lucky if it was -$7 or -$10.
     
    snarke, May 30, 2010 IP
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    Writing for this type of clients is much easier than those who will give you titles or topics and expect quality in less than 24 hours. I have one client who always sends sample quality articles and layout for keyword placing whenever a new project run. These samples and layout/format serve as a guide for us his writers. With his guide, writing my articles is easy from start to finish.


     
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    Yeah, if you take into account, the effort you made
     
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    I think most in here overlook the fact that basically the guy wants a rewrite

    That takes about 15 minutes, research(read finding the articles to combine) included.
     
    Kraven2, May 31, 2010 IP
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    What, swarg?! You mean you can't get quality articles for $1 for every 100 words?!

    Shocking!
     
    Perry Rose, May 31, 2010 IP