Signs of the last days and reference to terrorism on christians in the Bible

The scribes have created the holy trinity to conform their interpretation of Christ to their scriptures that there is only one God.


There is only one "Highest" God the Almighty and Creator that no one will be placed before - The scribes and their followers are cooked.

Below God there are countless other divinity's etc etc including Christ.

 

What's creepier, yours or mine?

 

Not sure if you were joking and I didn't read all the other posts yet, but my guess is you are playing a pun in this, since it is talking about the wife of YOUR youth. Not the wife of your son. It is refering to the wife you married when young - Most people got married quite young at that time and only once, divorce was rare in that culture. The wife of my youth is just that my wife. We were married ant 19 and 20 in our youth.

OK, back to your leg pulling, since I have to believe you are smart enough to understand basic English.

 

Exactly. I completely understood what he's getting at...he is another mocking dude who lacks proper English, physics and proper meaning of the word "dimension". He expects the bible to have a "bold" feature with everything written in the same sentence. He uses the human laws to try and understand the words of God...way beyond his human laws and his plastic ruler.

Maybe this would give him a little hint: "They have eyes to see but do not see and ears to hear but do not hear, for they are a rebellious people." Ezekiel

 

A little hint: "Bible is full of BS and religious people are stupid" Gworld

 

Dimension: lets check the example of Time. Time is a dimension..you are aware of it because your brain is aware of the time sequence throughout your day. But..in the end of the world, when Jesus arrives, you and everyone will be able to experience the glory during the judgement. The glory to see "spirits" and see God. To the dead, their new dimension rising from their death. A new dimension you will experience; therefore, is a new extent/coordinate to life. Another meaning and another goal- a final sense of awareness.

Regarding the last question, God forbid, I answer such a question. After all, I am just a human who is not worthy to decide other peoples fates. God is mysterious and he knows everyone's intentions. It is up to the people to accept God and live within him.

 

I suppose thats obvious enough, though it doesn't take too much imagination to make those words fit my desired meaning. What does take imagination, on the other hand, is taking the verses Luke has and preaching about the creation of a new Dimension. For that matter, the Holy Trinity has less direct scriptural backing than the biblical mandate to nail my youth's wife(anal style). What takes a lot of imagination is trying to imply anything from the book of Revelations has concrete meaning or application to current events, unless you like the drug LSD. I think there are a lot of good values and wise proverbs to be found in the bible, but I don't find a lot of difference between a "Christian" who spouts chapter and verse as though they have the correct interpretation with everyone else is going to hell, and a starry eyed Muslim talking about the 70 virgins he was promised. One destroys the lives of others with a bomb, the other with a wasted life(and sometimes with death by consumption of poison or something stupid like that).

My grandfather could have been anything he wanted to be, a doctor, a scientist. The man spoke 7 languages, including several dead languages (Ancient Aramaic and Ancient Greek). Instead, he lived to the ripe old age of 94 and died a pauper because he spent his time proselytizing. He expected Armageddon to come in his life time. God knows how many other people he convinced to waste their life too. I have no issue with religious people pushing the idea of living a principled life, but I have to draw the line when I see this type of bullshit fantasy being shoveled out. If it weren't bad enough to try and read into the apocalyptic ramblings of a bunch of would be prophets from the first century AD, we get the bullshit political drivel poured on top from the council of Nycea who were consolidating power by religious doctrine. We get the creation of the Catholic Church that burned people at the cross for the possession of a bible, lest they argue with their interpretation and, therefore, their control of the people. We get holidays like Christmas and Easter which are filled with pagan symbols, with would be Christians today going on about their sanctity and meaning. More irritating than all of that, we get modern day "scholars" like Luke making up "New Dimensions" to explain the cryptic, baffling, and contradicting writings of a first century goat herder turned prophet, who hadn't the first clue about physics. These people came from a time before blood letting was an acceptable medical practice, magic was something more than an illusion, and women still believed the words "I won't cum in your mouth". We may not have outgrown god(though many have), but I'd like to think we've outgrown the idiocy that comes with blindly following religious teachings that make no sense based on "faith".

We have enough problems with Muslim fanatics following their own "Holy Text"(another compilation of writings put to print for the soul purpose of political manipulation) without videos from "Christians" like the one in the OP playing fast and loose with the numbers to stir up angst against Muslims as a whole.

[Edit]@Luke: I had already posted by the time I saw your post, so I'll respond briefly here. I say briefly because I realize you are so convinced of your beliefs, and there is very little I can say or put to print that will convince you otherwise, so why waste the time. If you care about your future, you'll take the time to follow the advice of Acts 17:11. "Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true". For that matter, read the Quran. Read some science books. READ SOME HISTORY BOOKS. Get education from some other source than your church. I'm sure you'll approach your education the same way you approach this conversation, looking to argue with anything that disagrees with your views and agree with all that enforces them. Challenge your own beliefs if only to reinforce them. If what you believe is true, it will only be made stronger by your additional education. This video might be a good place to start.

 

did you know that the trinity is not mentioned in the bible

 

My faith in God is the only thing that drives me towards the truth. That being said, you'd be very surprised if I told you about the variety of books I read, the different countries and cultures I experienced and what kind of a degree I have. If you'd think my analysis comes from the bible itself, then you're wrong. It comes from experience. From the first mocking paragraph you sent, I exactly knew where you were going with it. I knew what you had in mind because I met a lot of people like you before. I don't know much about your grand father, but I know he came into the world with nothing and he left with nothing except for his eternal soul. From your description, he sounds like a descent man. I didn't gave up on you. The pieces of the puzzle are coming together and it would all fit if you just read what God says, not what your mind tells you. I will pray for you..one day you may know the truth.

 

So war and earthqaukes are a sign of the end? Wars have been happening since man invented weapons and earthquakes have been happeningfor billions of years, keep waiting.....

 

The prophecy is, God will return when the last evil or good person on earth perishes to judge those who are remaining as the final day of Judgment - The prevention of Armageddon is the mandate to man from God for remittance to the Garden of Eden. Noah's mission.

The Bibles disregard for the triumph of good for "all" than just the followers of Christ is a sacrilege the scribes and their followers will perish for.

The interpretation of Christ has nothing to do with written scripture.

 

faith   /feɪθ/ Show Spelled[feyth] Show IPA
–noun

belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.

So how exactly does faith drive you towards the truth?

 

I doubt I'd be surprised at your resume of life experiences, and certainly not your reading material. Your style of argumentation and what you put to print could have been authored word for word by one of the millions of brainwashed others who currently find themselves in your shoes. You'd be amazed at how similar the banter is. To you, I'm one of "those people" who you are preaching to. One of the "blind who cannot see". It allows you to mentally dismiss everything I print, rather than converse with me logically. You are here performing your job, not having a conversation, which is what makes having the "conversation" pointless. Even if I told you I used to be a Pastor it wouldn't help. You'd call me a heretic. That is how brainwashing works.

You should also revisit my first paragraph. It's truth was well demonstrated by your response, where you mixed in the word "Know" in a sentence with the words "left wit his eternal soul", just like a Radicalized Muslim "Knows" he is going to heaven for killing infidels. You could have said, "I have faith that..." or "I believe that...", but you used the word "Know", demonstrating your absolute certainty. There is no need to question it. On a scientific basis, if the whole world thought like that we'd still be blood letting and burning "witches" at the stake. Pray for yourself. You need it more than I do.
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love to read you discussion. old testament and new one!

good point!
so one question remains me. did Bible mention more characteristics about them? for example Richter scale/magnitude of earth quake and where will acquire or any thing about bin-Laden or Pakistani insurgents?

so why God descent it for people? I guess if something was hard to understand will bring controversy and may mislead people?

 

Have you checked on the seismological calendar of this year and compared it to previous years, Roman?

 

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The problem as usual is people giving lessons and not able to explain them. Like a teacher in highschool who cannot argue with the smart students since he wasn't able to think as them.


There are a few things I "know":

1) People are full of it and powerhungry. And controlling.
2) The masses are easy to control. Fear and complexity within the message manage to do that easily.
3) Human nature was what it was back then.
4) A pagan but together the Bible. Doesn't mean what's in there is true or isn't. But the fact that people are not questioning that aspect leaves you wondering what else they will accept as a given.
5) It's never really about the message but the presentation.

In other words, I do believe in faith. Faith in a friend who you have no proof for being on your side when things get tough. Or faith in a job going well, anything.


But this is just like people sitting in front of the tube and repeating what they get fed. That's what the real issue is. People who repeat stuff and no intellectual curiosity regardless of warning signs.

Seems all people ever do is dismantle nonsense rather than searching for truth. You may recognize the wrong, but just like a well spoken pastor shouldn't be listened to when misquoting scripture (most pastors), the same way your sensible replies do not disprove the Bible either.


But of course, just like everything in society, these discussions are similar to political debates, so chances are this will just end up being another dragged out thread producing nothing but division and ending up a dead end.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urlTBBKTO68

 

Why am I not surprised you didn't watch the video. There is nobody with a sweet voice in it, and it certainly isn't a controversy video, just a bit of comic relief. I would almost bet money you didn't watch it because your church organization, whatever it may be, discourages even listening to opposing viewpoints as that would be lending your ear to apostasy. Am I right? It would have to be a safe assumption that you didn't watch the first video I linked either, which talked about some interesting overlaps between most of the major religions of the world. Jehovah's witnesses have gone so far down this path, they discourage their congregation from watching R rated movies or going to college. Isolation and blocking out foreign sources of information as well as voices of dissent are key elements of brainwashing.

Re-branding words like "Truth", is another aspect of brainwashing. I noticed you've used it several times in this conversation, including the quoted sentence above. Your definition of "the truth" means quite literally your religious dogma, as indicated from your quote above. On the other hand, the the dictionary defines truth as conformity with facts and reality. Why would I, or anyone else show willingness to accept "the truth" from you when you have perverted the very meaning of the word from the outset? Furthermore, if anything in the bible can be called fact, your religious dogma is not based on those facts, as I pointed out numerous times throughout this conversation.

I can provide you quotes of nearly any person on the planet advocating the killing of women and children if I am allowed to cut them up a bit and take them out of context (Read into them, Interpret them). I demonstrated this earlier from the Proverb which advises me to nail my son's hot young wife(She really is hot by the way. You'd want to nail her if you saw her). The quotes you provided took a lot more imagination to get to "There will be a new dimension created", than mine took to get to "Enjoy the your youth's wife's tits".

Do you ever wonder why the theory of gravity, which is as much fact as anything possibly could be, is still called a "theory"? You must be one of the smartest guys on the planet with such certainty and so few facts.

 

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