Signs of the last days and reference to terrorism on christians in the Bible

No, still missed it. Didn't see anything in what you put to print about another dimension which no one has ever experienced. You sure you aren't making it all up?

But the book doesn't say that. It is what you say, not what the bible says. I can understand the need to make up the idea of another dimension where it would be possible for every human being to see god from every part of the planet, but you need to acknowledge that is what you are adding in, and is most definitely not in the bible. You also made another interpretation that can't be assumed, when you assumed the Son of Man is the same as God. This is an area where most Christian religions don't agree, so one has to wonder which one is right, and what is the price of being wrong. Hell?

I believe more than one of Michael Jackson's concerts were televised world wide. Given that he always has lots of fog machines on stage, I could also say that all the tribes of earth saw someone at the same time, moon walking in the clouds with great glory. Who is to say Fox News won't be covering the second coming and, therefore, no need for another dimension?

It didn't help at all. I need concrete answers man. I cant be playing guesswork when the souls of my son and his hot new wife are at stake (especially hers). If there is going to be a second coming, I need to get busy!

 

I think you are living in a denial. When you move your son's hot wife out of your brain..maybe you can understand. I don't see why you can't understand my point, its clear enough.
Go ahead, you can deny it to make it look like its not there. Let me break it down to you to what I mean by another dimension that people have not experienced... I am not paraphrasing but analyzing the words of God, for you, so don't try to give me a vague claim that its not there.

Here we go:
1) Bible mentions the dead will rise. Have you experienced this happening? Don't think so. That's a new dimension of life that yet to happen.
2) Bible mentions signs of the second coming..he will come with his glory and angels.. Have you experienced this happening? Don't think so.
3) Bible mentions signs of his coming. Read carefully the part of "Look here" or "Look there". This is to assure people God is not limited, not here or there but Everywhere.
As I already wrote, "one side to the other", did you ever see something appearing in sky from one side to the other? What is the side of the sky? Who can defines it? and where does it lead? But..we know its going to be big enough.
4) "all the tribes of the earth mourn". 10 lines under "all". How else all the tribes will mourn without them all experiencing the glory of God in his coming?
Unfortunately, not everyone owns a T.V to see M.J

The book of revelations 1:7 was clear too
"BEHOLD, HE IS COMING WITH THE CLOUDS, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. So it is to be. Amen"

Now.. if you think God's second coming will be only exclusive in the United States or any other region, think again. I don't know how else can words become clear..but if you don't want to listen, that's your choice.

Regarding your claim son of god cannot be assumed as God, then now I know you lack sufficient knowledge in Christianity. The holy trinity is complex, yes, no one can deny that..but God is mysterious and shall not be understood with simple words. There are tons of quotes in the bible that mentions Jesus is the son of God who equals the father and the holy spirit...all 3 in 1.
I will give you a similar analogy. You got Sun(body),heat and light. Even though they are different dimensions, you cannot separate them. They are all one.

 

Is it there? I read the passage several times and I didn't read the word dimension once. Read it yourself. Whether you call your addition analysis, paraphrasing, or interpretation, it is still an addition. There is no denying it(or the hotness of my sons wife).

Its not my claim, it is the claim of millions upon millions of practicing Christians. Oh sure, there are millions upon millions of others that say otherwise, but once again it begs the question of whose interpretation(addition, analysis, whatever you want to call it) is correct. After all, god will be judging and sending the bad people to hell, and misinterpretation of the bible and selling other people on that misinterpretation has got to be a qualifying offense.

James 3:1
Not many of you should presume to be teachers, my brothers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly

Proverbs 30:5
5 Every word of God proves true. He defends all who come to him for protection.
6 Do not add to his words, or he may rebuke you, and you will be found a liar.

Mathew 7:21-23
21 Not all people who sound religious are really godly. They may refer to me as 'Lord,' but they still won't enter the Kingdom of Heaven. The decisive issue is whether they obey my Father in heaven.
22 On judgment day many will tell me, 'Lord, Lord, we prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.'
23 But I will reply, 'I never knew you. Go away; the things you did were unauthorized.'

Deuteronomy 4:2
2 Do not add anything to what I command you, and do not take anything away. Obey the commands of the Lord your God that I have given you.

You can't have heat without light, or light without heat? Body is the same as heat and light? The three are inseparable? They are three "dimensions"? Is this more "analysis"? Did they not teach physics in your high school(sorry for this last statement if you aren't out of high school yet)?

 

Perseverance with the right choice is the ensuing struggle. Since God is unsure of the outcome I would be a little reticent for your prediction of always winning.

The triumph over evil is instinctively the word of God that must be fulfilled in seeking remittance. Christianity - Islam - Judaism, etc. are all in the same pursuit that if any or all are successful will converge to the same intersection irregardless the divergent paths taken. The Goal / Triumph is all that matters and the day of Judgment will be the answer to their success.

The parable for Gods return was what saved Noah - Noah's death was imminent and as being the last good person on earth would have initiated Armageddon - Because God would destroy all who were remaining to fulfill the prophecy decided to give man yet another chance for redemption and did so by destroying the evil before Noahs death, as was to be the outcome anyway......our guess is, there is a labour shortage in the heavens and man fits the ticket (volcano cleaners)being the reason for the extra salvation.

 

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Here I would once again ask you to offer biblical evidence of your claim, but I fear you will respond with your usual deferral to the biblical scholars greater than you, whose word you have taken for granted. Needless to say, you have only to do a bit of research on your own to find the "Holy Trinity" is a heavily disputed Christian doctrine amongst your fellow christians. When you start doing your own research, instead of accepting what has been spoon fed to you by the humans whom you have entrusted your lifelong goal planning with, you will find there is very little about the "Holy Trinity" in the bible that does not rely heavily on interpretation.

Did you? Did you present even one phrase from the bible that mentioned an alternate dimension that would be created at the second coming? Really? Lying is a sin you know. For your information, I see the hand of god every time I look in the faces of my children or at the back of my hand, as does everyone else on this planet. No alternate dimension required. You need to own up to your additions to biblical teachings and stop them for the sake of your eternal soul. I don't know you, but I don't think you should burn in hell for Apostasy.

Riddle me this. How much light does a black hole emit, which is nothing but a dead star(sun)? God knows it has lots of mass(body), so where is it's light and heat? Have you ever used a glow stick? Light without heat? How about your house, is it warm when you sleep at night? Do you turn out your lights? Does your heating system emit light? Your analogy is based on the premise that because one thing can have three attributes, that the three are in fact the same thing is ridiculous. My car has three attributes(dimensions?) . It is red. It is Four Wheel Drive. It is luxurious. Can we then say that the three are one? I guess it would take faith, and no small amount of it. At what point does stupidity mistaken for faith?

 

Has nothing to do with complexity. It's about what is and what isn't. Of course we were not meant to fully understand God. But saying we don't understand him, yet make a statement and claim it is based on "everyone who is Christian knows" makes me ask you where this interpretation originated.

 

Again..You are trying to manipulate what I said. I gave you an analogy about Sun because it was a perfect example of the holy trinity..not a car or a fluorescent glow stick, these stuff are man-made. So again..lets talk about sun. When you find me a sun with light but without heat...then we can talk. Good luck.

 

What is man made is the human interpretations and unsubstantiated claims that God and Jesus with the Holy Spirit are one and the same. Please show us where in the scripture it says that.

 

so god is one? So jesus is god? or the son of god? but if they are all one and the same isn't it just one? This trinity thing doesn't make any sense

 

Read what I quoted from the bible within the quotes above

 

Of course it won't unless you have the holy spirit within you. No offense to you at all, but you are going into the deep complexity of Christianity here..yet you need to know the basics first. The words of God are not meant to be understood by anyone who knows their alphabet...but by people who are willing to accept God

Jesus said: "Therefore I tell you that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, "Jesus be cursed," and no one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit".

If you get a 5 year old Christian child..he can tell you Jesus is the lord because the holy spirit is within him. It may be difficult for you to understand..but there is no easy way getting it unless you are ready to accept Jesus...then you can understand. Btw, that doesn't mean all Christian own this spirit. The spirit of God only lives within clean innocent people that follow the words of God.

A famous true story: There was a pastor once walking down the beach thinking about the holy spirit trying to wrap his brain about the holy spirit. He couldn't just get what does 3 in 1 mean..father son and holy spirit. The pastor was furious and beating his brains out because he just couldn't get it. He then saw a young child digging a small hole in the beach. The pastor asked the little child what are you doing here by yourself? The child replied, I am trying to fill this hole with all the water in the ocean. The pastor asked the kid: is it possible that all this water of the ocean can be put in such a small hole? The child then replied: then how is it possible the infinite trinitarian god be contained in your mind? And the child (actually an angel) disappeared.

What do we learn from this story? The complexity of God can be accepted with faith rather than mathematical formulas and scientific evidence.

 

I found this picture of jesus...

 

^^ lol!!

 

Look: I stick with scripture. I don't need the Talmud, Saints or tales added. All of this is feelgood Christotainment. Holy spirit or not, make sure u don't lose track of what is scripture based and what explanations are currently popular,. The churches are filled with nonsense and confused followers who think they have discovered some secrets, just to later detect they've been misled.

Most Christians in the US are severely misled. Mainly because people in churches add their opinions and refuse to tell the newcomers what's written and what they think.

Same with the whole John 3 16 soundbite marketing techniques.

Son of man means man to me. Yeshua hamassiach whose name has been altered by Goyim paganism and Joel Olsteen sort of nonsense.


I agree, seeking him through the spirit is the only way. But almost all of the stuff that has gone through Rome and Great Britain has been altered to the point where the complexity as you refer to it is nothing but a strategy by European and American clergy to cause followers to create a religious addiction and has almost nothing to do with the message in the end.

 

<<< prime example

 

WoW..you have added nothing here but junk. Read what the scripture says, at least the 4 quotes above about the holy spirit. I don't have to repeat. If you agree that the only way to accept God is through the holy spirit..then you got a start. Remember..Jesus used parables when he spoke to people except when he spoke to his disciples.
So..You tell me what you find hard to believe is not mentioned and how would it make a difference in what you believe right now? Son of man..means man to you. Who defines the word of God? You or God? "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him".

 

Sure, with. But how did this turn into one single entity? It's a good riddle. But The Ruach Hako'desh (Holy Spirit) was sent as was Yeshua. By Yahweh.
And Ruach Elohim is not the same. So there is a distinction. Ignoring that isn't working. Even though the English and Latin translations mold everything into one confusing mix of misunderstandings.

Yes, they act as one, but where exactly does it state they are the same? It doesn't. In mistranslations the spirit of God was made to be the same as the one coming down on Passah but the real complexity (even though very simple when able to ignore half of what you mislearn) comes when studying the actual scripture rather than taking the word of a pastor who learned to bamboozle his congregation into a consuming mass of guilt tithing parrots.
Who has seen Yahweh? Many have seen Yeshua.

Ruach is the counsellor. Yeshua keeps referring to the father. Unless you're implying he was suffering from Schizophrenia, all of what you're saying is basically what church doctrine blows out of proportion over the implication Yeshua gave to His flock that Him and the father act as one.

 

I analyze this part of Bible as reffering to a dead part of obamanation anatomy that has risen to life after seeing son´s hot wife.

 

I believe she could get the dead to rise 3 or four times in the course of an evening. I intend to find out, if only for the sake of the salvation of her soul. Is it blasphemy if I claimed to her that I could make her see god?

You are going to go down fighting with your analogy aren't you. Didn't like the black hole response? Now you've changed it to be a Sun with light but no heat? Find me a planet with no mass. What does that have to do with the holy trinity? Did you read the links? Our sun has mass, and it emits internal energy as well as electromagnetic radiation. That does not mean electromagnetic radiation or thermal energy is same as mass, or that the three are inseparable. In this example, they are three attributes of one thing. All planets have mass. All humans have mass(some more than others). I get the feeling this isn't sinking in for you.

So knowledge is not important but blind acceptance is? Interesting doctrine.

1) What evidence do you have that this story is true? 2) The story promotes the idea of accepting a lack of understanding. "We don't know, we can't find out, and we will never know". While that may fly on certain subjects, like the location of Jimmy Hoffa's body, using that principal in application to the guiding force in your life is just stupid.

Apparently you don't either, as you admitted in the quoted analogy above, as well as earlier posts where you said you would need to defer to biblical scholars. No, I don't get it. The word trinity does not appear in even one of the scriptures you quoted above. Is that something that was added? Perhaps by these people? Not one of the scriptures quoted above even mentions the father, the son, and the holy spirit in the same text. The only one that could even be construed as two being one is John 14:1, though in fairness, all my ancestors are living in me as well. Does that make me god? My words are not just my own, but the words of those who came before me. Now send me 15% of your paycheck!

Trust me its easy to understand? Is this like the concept of the holy trinity which by your own admission cannot be understood? Here is the dictionary definition:

Your specific words were:"The world will have another dimension that no one has ever experienced". Why don't you explain which definition you used, and the reason you made the statement? All people being able to see god at the same time is an effect, and you went ahead and assumed the cause. Please provide me the scriptural foundation for knowing you have correctly assumed the cause. As I pointed out now three times it doesn't exist. Here is another question you might be able to clear up for me. How will everyone be able to see god when the bible clearly states no man can see god and live? Wouldn't that run in direct opposition to the trinity doctrine? No more fuzzy and unclear scriptures that require a lot of interpretation please. Make it cut and dry.

Last question. Are all the Christians who don't believe in the trinity going to hell for blasphemy?