I'd prefer you to stop watching C Grade Bollywood Biased movies, Where ISI is a terrorist and try to Blow India, In the end it get knocks out, And frankly you wrote 3 paragraphs that seems to be a joke. At first end you say, Pakistan Army controls Government, For your kind information that time has gone away when President Musharraf use to rule, If you are talking about that Era, That's pretty understandable, While if you are talking about for the present which surely doesn't meet up your thoughts or whatever you friends say whom you talk on regular basis. Govt. Have tight control over Army and Its just laid cause of the Govt. The Fund that use to go up in Military have been reduced due to the high bill. And I have learned a new thing "Pakistanis hates Muslim" even an Atheist would laugh on your phrase, If you say the connection of Army with Taliban that seems to be another Joke, More than 1000's of Young Army Men are getting Martyr, They are being slaughtered like Taliban doing to others, If i post such images over here, Your heart will go down for seconds. People die in Mosques cause of Militant attacks, Kids get orphan, Women turning to Widow. There are even such cases where Security Guard Hold Terrorist and hugged them so they can't reach to the place where Heads are meeting, And Blow away himself with that Brainwashed fag, So no Innocent die. The Media that puts up additional cheese to your news only shows the reports where ISI is this or that or Army is or that. Do you think are we still in position to bomb you?, I say myself we can't be compared to India. We can't solve our own problems poverty, illiteracy, crisis, inflation etc we have that much time to disturb India? I am not blaming you for giving such statements, I am blaming the one who is trying to fill up your minds. Without any solid evidence or any proper authentication you keep on hearing or reading things, We are so mentally tired but still we are living in, Cause we love our country like you do and like everyone else.
What I find most ironic is that the people that hate America most will come over here, get an education, indulge in our customs and way of life, take advantage of this great system in every way possible, then chastise and ridicule us for doing the same. I really pity these people. Not because they come here and do this, but because in doing so they are hypocrites.
@SF Do you think your government and media will tell you that we are financing and supporting terrorists against Indian citizens even if they do? Check these out: http://dailymailnews.com/0410/30/FrontPage/FrontPage3.php http://pakobserver.net/detailnews.asp?id=28394 Indian diplomat recruited by ISI, why you mean no harm? It is also alleged that she gave out information to ISI about Indians in Afghanistan who were killed on 26th Feb. I can give out 100's of such examples? Why haven't 26/11 culprits been punished yet if the Army and ISI are not supporting them? It is high time that YOU ask yourself the question I asked in the first line.
Can ISI recruit you ? I don't think they can recruit me or anyone (without his/her will) with money or something else. It seems you're Indian and starting such meaningless threads.
Yes she recruited her with money, why did they need to recruit an Indian Diplomat to give them secret information if they mean no harm? And I gave Pakistani sites as sources BTW.
It is not answer to my question. You are asking questions instead of answering If she took money, It is her fault and she deserves punishment.
Yes it's her fault and she'll be punished. But the question remains (which you have no answer to), why did ISI buy India's secret information from her? They bought info of Indians in Afghan and murdered them, bloody terrorists.
I'd prefer you to change its name to "Why Pakistanis Hate Indian" if you are talking on your own agenda, Don't drag America in for your own Rights
sorry for the mis-type, I was referring to pakistanis hate americans and not muslims, I would never mean that, as it seems most of the pakistanis feel all the Indian muslims support pakistan, so how can I make such a conclusion. I don't like to drag religions into the discussion, so I apologize for my typo (I probably didn't check my composed msg) about ISI, as you are living in Pakistan and its commonly understood you will bring your facts, this isn't the truth (at least half the major intelligence agencies across the world see it as, u name it FBI, CIA, Interpol or what not.. your own ISI admitted funding to terror outfits and its always appears even today ISI is helping few Taliban top leaders to flee from their grasps - not an Indian news but it came in CNN, PTV), if it is as u say, why does the ISI or Army Chief are present on the most of the meets of Indo-Pak delegates, India doesn't bring either army or intelligence officials into dialogue process, unless there is a discussion (need to be) between both the parties. Most of us know whether who is ready for a war and who always indulged in a war first, I don't want to drag this topic any more. I am not going to compare the good and bad between both nations, as I don't see a point of that in this particular topic. I have no interest in going on a topic which has no end, so I rest my case down here (on Ind-Pak relations). As, I earlier said, this is just going to be blame game, the topic has already diverted to Indo-Pak rather Us-Pak. I made my stand clear in my earlier reply, why there could be a conflict of interests, between both the nations - just an typo occurred, so wanted to clarify it and my stand once again so that, you aren't mislead OP, plz stop your mis-leads, this doesn't look like Pak-Us hatred or not discussion, its turning into Indo-Pak relation thread peace
Well they hate every non muslim(non-believers) but they hate the indians the most. Unfortunately, pakistan has been teaching false history to their school kids. In their social text books, they show extreme rivalry towards indians/hindus by portraiting unoccured scenarios.The agenda is to retain the hatred feeling for future generations. This is the truth which has been reported by TOI
The truth is what is actually happening, not what is reported. Newspapers always lean one way or another and should never be taken as the truth.
Really poor of you, Don't make stories upon your School Kids Books. Every minority in Pakistan can do anything we have Islamiat Studies from Class 1 - 11. And each year every Christan & Hindu is given option to choose between Ethics. The reason this country was born was to ensure the rights of everyone not only muslims but christans, hindus, jews or anyone else. I'd prefer you to come to Pakistan and then speak up, I have visited India and have found no bad time there, Indeed I have enjoyed it up, I met so many people there who came to Pakistan and they didn't had any negative reviews like you, You guys just read news paper rather exploring and keep on believing things. Which means you guys just gonna sit and watch it rather than go and fight for it. If you think we have false histories added in our books, I will supply you those books for free, Read it up and you will find it whats true. When Mumbai attacks happen, I saw Indian news channel Star News, And how the heck they were flaming entire India by creating A movie by there own. Its really sickening, I never opened that Channel ever again in my life, If you ever compare our news channels with yours you will find the truth. I was completely broken, like WTF is this news trying to say. Plus i ask you again, Do we have that much time to hate your rather than Hating Talibans ? we are in intense position rather than support we are getting hatred. We don't expect sympathy from anyone, Nor hatred.
I know your not going to reply to my questions, (coz you have nothing) but that's not going to stop me from posting. Oh! How many people from minorities (hindu, sikh, JEWS!) do you have holding top positions (or even a part) of your army? How many Minority MP's do you have out of a total of how many? I'd really like to know. Damn it, Pakistan didn't even give rights to Muslims from East Pakistan what rights will they give to minorities! Like Geo TV reporting that Shoaib Akhtar is married to Dia Mirza? LMAO! What do those History books say about Gandhi? Did they say about how he secured Independence for the Subcontinent or does it only praise Jinnah who did nothing but spread sectarian hate. I blame him for the millions of deaths during the partition of India, we have more muslims than any other countries even Pakistani Muslims would have integrated without much problem, and believe the state of both the countries (specially yours) would have been MUCH better if the partition never happened. And what do your History books say about this: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1756475 I've had Pakistanis on this forum (college goers) tell me that Pakistan won 3 wars against India, speaks a lot about what your children are taught. What did they say? Believe me, if your government was behind those attack they would never say so nor let the media report so. So you would never know for sure. We on the other hand gain nothing from tainting Pakistan, why would we make up things? Your Media didn't even accept that Kasab was a Pakistani until Nawaaz sharif found his village and his parents (oh yeah, after that your government cordoned off the village) now it is proved that Mumbai attacks were planned and handled by Pakistani's and carried out by them too.
"The largest religious minority in Pakistan is that of various denominations of Christians. This includes Anglicans, Protestants, Catholics, Armenian Orthodox, Assyrian/Chaldean, Nestorian's from Iran and more recent Evangelical sects. They are represented in many fields of Pakistani society and have to some degree, achieved higher positions in the government, bureaucracy and businesses. A famed national hero, Shaheed or martyr, is Cecil Chaudhry who was awarded Pakistan's highest honour posthumously for defending his country during the war against neighbouring India." - Wiki I'd prefer you read this , It's okay if you don't want to read, You love to ignore truth correct friend Either I would love to talk on , Plus if you talk about the Rights 35% of Land worth Million Dollars in Sindh is owned by Sindhi Hindus, Even one of my friend have millions worth land whom he plants rice LOL Forgot Gujrat Massacre?, Destroying Mosques? Thats what your Human Rights? That what your Books teach?
No point arguing with a moron who doesn't answer questions but feels he has every right to question back. Note to self: Why am I wasting my time with hypocrites?
why the hell do u interfere in other nation's issues ?? you have issues on your own, so first try to rectify them before pin-pointing others. India is 7th largest nation in the world with second largest population, with the highest no.of langs spoken + country with largest religions popluation, 1st in hindus, 2nd in world after arab in muslims, 1st in sikhs and so on.. so naturally, India will have probs, the probe isn't over yet, so let us not get into those dealings. You have your own share of probs, which I don't want to drag on, as the topic has already changed into an off-topic forum, it would only get worse, so I rest my case on the Indo Pak discussions (hoping no more dialogue on this issue is reqd.) Human Rights are same in any nation generally, so there's no point on debating the issue and let the topic get back to the original issue of Pak hatred towards US and not Pak hatred towards India so on,,
Because they think they are custodians of Indian Muslims, there leader are always trying to convince them that formation of Pakistan was not a MISTAKE as Jinnah himself said after independence. Answer by Indian Muslim to all Pakistanis, good pakistanis will take it in good spirit, idiots and hypocrites might feel offended: [video=youtube;sS1kPN0KfU4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS1kPN0KfU4[/video]