Scary but true... Islamic demographics in Europe!

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  1. atvking

    atvking Active Member

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    sorry double post.....
     
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  2. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    Just making conversation to see what you wanted, so I threw a few things out there. Why do you and AtvKing think everyone wants to immigrate to Kosovo?

    You are so right! We were all over Rwanda. We definitely started the Kuwait invasion. We definitely invaded Israel several times. Its like I said, we don't care about our land, our money, or our safety, but the slaughter of innocent civilians is cultural for us. We can't help ourselves.


    Careful, your anti-immigrant sentiment is showing in a rather hateful way. I thought you were the country of good, welcoming, immigrant friendly people. It seems you are pissed at the US because we didn't let Milosevic finish his good work.

    Did you manage to see the movie Hostel yet? I found it quite entertaining. Only a short 600 miles to the north in another part of the former Czech Republic, it provided insight into a an undeveloped, poor and uncultured land suffering from high criminality, war and prostitution, made up of run down factories and kids who kill for bubble gum. Sound like home? The star of the movie, an American, saved the foreign hostel student's from your former countrymen, who were kidnapping them and selling the opportunity to butcher them up to psychopaths with money from around the globe. It was really entertaining, but I considered it more of a documentary.
     
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  3. atvking

    atvking Active Member

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    @obamanation

    *yawn* see the 1000-s of horror movies about your US slack jaw inbreed redneck countrymen and accidental passers by? sound like home?...you are no fun any more...go fear a mexican or something...
     
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  4. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #84
    Mommy, tell me another story about how the evil Albanian immigrants who don't speak our language came in and ruined our country.
     
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    mi25 Active Member

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    First of all I am not from Kosovo and i am an atheist. You have shit for brains and you make some of the stupidest arguments ever maid. So the reason behind Kosovo population being over 90% Albanians is because they reproduce a lot ? What a stupid statement . Your claiming that the Serbs took Albanians in Kosovo over as immigrants. Again very stupid stamen coming from an ignorant Serb nationalist.
    According to history Serbs migrated to Kosovo and Present day Serbia in the 7th century. And present day Kosovo was part of Illiria in ancient history.. Part of illirian people who populated the area were Albanian tribes and the language that they spoke is classified in Indo-european language category. The present day Albanians in Kosovo and Albania speak the same language.
    The historical facts states that the Serbs moved in the are in the 7th century and the Albanians were all-ways been living in the area. Now the Serbs in Kosovo have 2 options.
    Option 1 ) Intergrate and be a part of the new state of Kosovo
    Option 2) If they choose not to integrate they need to get the hell out and go back were they came from.

    Also you claiming that half of the countries that recognize Kosovo as an independent state are Muslim.
    Again very stupid comment made by an ignorant Serb.
    I am going to give you a list of Muslim countries that recognize Kosovo as an independent state and the Muslim countries that don't.

    THE MUSLIM COUNTRIES THAT RECOGNIZE KOSOVO :
    1) Afghanistan
    2) Turkey
    3) United Arab Emirates
    4) Saudi Arabia
    5) Jordan

    THE MUSLIM COUNTRIES THAT DONT RECOGNIZE KOSOVO.
    1) Algeria
    2) Bangladesh
    3) Egypt
    4) Indonesia
    5) Iran
    6) Iraq
    7) Kenya
    8) Kuwait
    9) Lebanon
    10) Libya
    11) Morocco
    12) Pakistan
    13) Qatar
    14) Syria
    15) Sudan
    16) Tunisia
    16) Yemen
    Now the Serbs are doing major ass kissing so the Muslim countries don't recognize Kosovo as an Independent state. Who gives a shit that Iran and Libya don't recognize Kosovo as an independent state. What matters is that the majority of civilized countries have recognized it.


    There is something that you should memorize in your stupid Serb brain.
    Kosovo will never be a part of Serbia again.















     
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  6. atvking

    atvking Active Member

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    LOL

    -first off im not serb

    -illyrans?!? but wait they populated the whole of the balkans 1000BC to to claim you are "illyrians" after 3000 years is like the gypsies claiming they are from ancient egypt :D nice try though...so you "kosovars" , according to you, have a right to the WHOLE OF THE BALKANS? riiiight

    -serbs have owned and defended kosovo for over 1300 years and if it was not for them your albanian buddies would be speaking TURK remember?:rolleyes: you kinda got wiped out by the turks remember?:rolleyes: illyrians LOL you are more egyptian than illyrian LOL

    -your claim that serbia is the reason you are not accepted is just AHAHAHAHAHA 3rd world shit hole serbia has 0 political power LOL especially in muslim countries :rolleyes: but lets look at who accepts you:

    afghanistan/UAE/saudi arabia/jordan/albania/malasia ...sniff sniff i smell muslim connection!...they would accept any muslim country even in the north pole LOL

    then come the small butt fuck countries you payed to accept you: senegal,marshall islands,nauru, burkina faso, san marino, liberia, sierra leone, colombia, belize, samoa, montenegro, micronesia, panama, malidives, palau, gambia, comoros, bahrain, dominican republic, malawi, mauritania, swaziland ,luxembourg, monaco, liechtenstein

    the come the separatist countries: latvia,estonia, slovenia, croatia, lituhania, macedonia ...separatists accepting separatists in order to make their own separatism seem more "legit" ...need i say more?

    then lets look at the US and their UN puppets who accepted you: need i say more? really? sounds like the good old UN is washing the blood of its hands and justifying what they and their US masters did LOL...


    now heres something for you to memorize: freedom is not free ...if you think it was all about the "kosovar" people and that the EU and USA actually want to help you then you are insane LOL...you just got surgically removed and ISOLATED ...serbs were the best friends you ever had...if it was not for them you would have starved your asses off in albania you "illyrians" AHAHAHA

    also you did not answer my question: *****why does the majority of the countries in the world NOT accept you if what you are saying is true?***** dont say its serbias huge political power LOL come on "illyrian" lets hear it LOL
     
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  7. vazon

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    LOL, indeed.

    Albanians do not have nothing with illyrians. Nobody know what language is used by this ancient people, so you can't talk about similarity between modern Albanian and illyrian languages. Also, no one medieval historian did not mention Albanians before 12 century... Albanians was not on Balkans before Serbs.

    Albanians are Caucasian tribe which was brought to Sicily by Arabians. They come to Balkans with Normans from Sicily as mercenaries. Normans were defeated by Byzantine army and they leave Albanians to settle territory of modern central Albania. This is what history knows about first Albanians in Balkan.

    There are no proofs for similarity of Albanians and illyrians but there are lot of genetic and linguistic proofs that Albanians are from Caucasus. Albanians share lot of their words and genetic with Caucasians nations.

    How Albanian "history" is ridiculous we can see on example that Albanians also claims that Alexandar the Great was Albanian, that Medieval monasteries in Serbia and other countries around are built by Albanian rulers (btw, the did not have any ruler during the medieval) etc... So, their "history" is fake and it is just a miserable try to justify Albanian todays violence on Kosovo and in whole region.
     
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    Knowledge frees you from bigoted or racist thinking
     
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    Obamanation and many other people sounds racist!!
     
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  11. atvking

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    #91
    once upon a time 1600 years before christ LOL


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    so i guess, according to "kosovars" , slovenia/croatia/bosnia/montenegro/macedonia/part of hungary/part of romania also belong to you "kosovars":D...thats some funny shit right there LOOOOL ...you "kosovars" kept your "language" right from the IRON AGE?!? AHAHAHAHAHA:eek:AHAHAHA:eek:OHOHOHOHOHOHOHOOOO
     
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    No? LMAO!

    Ummm so according to you, a non-serb, a country which want to be independent is separatist country and has no legitimacy?

    Your posts are weird for a non-serb lol
     
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    atvking Active Member

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    if i was serb i would just say so...but im not...im yugoslavian...im mixed...im just as much croat and "bosniak" and macedonian...i actually have no direct serb heritage i just live in serbia...

    and no...i said separatist governments support each others separatist/nationalist bullshit and try to make it "legit"...every country has the right to a peaceful "separation"...but to start wars over a new flag and who you will pay taxes to is something i dont really need to address...

    only stupid separatists/nationalists believe that the sun will shine 3x harder and money will fall from the sky if their separatist/nationalist leaders have their own private country...if you are willing to murder over politics then this is called: terrorism ...

    what nationality are you? let me guess you are from a separatist state too? am i wrong?
     
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    So many evil separatists in the world. I mean you have India, the United States, Canada, Morroco, Germany. I especially loved your lumping in of all the ex-Soviet states as evil separatists. A fan of the USSR I suppose. If only we could just massacre all the women and children who aren't like us, no? Explain to me more, please, about the dirty Albanian immigrants who ruined your nation. I especially like the part where the hero Milosevic steps froward to fix the problem with the dirty immigrants, only to be attacked for trying to help by the UN. Why couldn't they just bud out and let you guys deal with your own immigrant problems?
     
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    atvking Active Member

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    *yawn* ive told you 100 times im against all violence especially US sanctioned vioelce...read my post above for the answers to the rest...

    making shit up about me and then expecting me to jump through your troll hoops is very optimistic of you...ill extend you the courtesy and make up lies about you too: so you got thrown out of nambla?:D :D

    dont be sad im sure you can start your own organization...

    on a side note: did you know israel prohibits the import of construction material so palestinians cant build houses? how do your two faces feel about this? :D
     
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    WoW...this thread went very deep! Didn't expect you'd go this far
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    I just want to hear a bit more about the Albanian problem in Serbia. You seem very opinionated on this. Something about them not speaking the language and refusing to integrate? Something about them being sub citizens? Please, tell me more. I'm glued.
     
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    Do you really believe that nonsense you post is really worth to be addressed?
     
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    Listen hear dumb ass. I never said that Albanians populated the whole Illiryia region. But according to Wikipedia there were Albanian tribes living in that region at that time. It was other tribes too but the Fu@!## Serbs were not there. I only brought up the ancient history because i am sick and tired of hearing Serb Mother F@!#$# claiming that Albanians came over and stole their land.
    Serbs owned and defended Kosovo for 1300 years ? This statement shows that you are a complete dumb ass and are clueless when it comes to history. The whole region was under the Ottoman empire for 500 years . After war war 1 the the world powers at that time divided Otoman empire and gave the portion of Kosova to the Serbs. In 1912 Albania and Kosovo declared independence as one country but that didn't stop for their lands to be divided. When the ottoman empire starting invading the Balkan region the Albanians fought many wars to push the Turks back. But after the death of the Albanian commander Skanderbeg the Turks were able to fully invaded Albania and Kosovo and stayed like that for 500 years.
    This is how the majority of Albanians converted to Muslim. To avoid paying taxes for non Muslims and to gain high political rankings under ottoman empire . You keep saying that they are Albanians and Bosnian Muslims in the hart of Europe. What the hell is wrong with that ? Since when being a Muslim become a crime ? There are Albanian soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan as we speak fighting terrorism along side with all the other NATO allies.

    I am going to show you a map of countries that recognize and countries that don't recognize Kosovo.
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    Now most countries in Europe, North America, Australia and a hand full of countries in Asia, South America and Africa recognize it. Now according to you these countries in green are all separatist and extremists but you are missing one thing. They are the most developed countries both in economics and in culture. The mother Russia which the Serbs Suck so much D@!#$ from has a lot of political influence over the majority of the countries that don't recognize Kosovo. Also quite a few of this countries especially in South America and middle east strongly dislike USA and since it was the USA initiative for Kosovo to become independent they will not recognize Kosovo. A few countries have minority problems on their own and they are using caution and waiting for the right time to recognize the new state. But i sure you that slowly the majority of the countries will recognize it.
    Now i am going to repeat this to you again.
    Kosovos independence is a done deal and you and all the savage Serbs can cry all you want.
     
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  20. atvking

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    #100
    @moreplayerz.com

    you did not answer my question...where are you from? dont bother LOL its clear where you are from

    @obamanation

    who said they were "sub citizens" oh right you did...try asking again this time without making shit up and you will get an answer

    @klardi

    claiming that you are "illyrian" is just hilarious...illyrians are from the IRON AGE and look at the map above...according to your logic you have the "right" to all of the balkans...

    you mention wikipedia? i quote:

    (wiki albanian history)
    "the territorial nucleus of the Albanian state forms in the Middle Ages, as the Principality of Arbër and the Kingdom of Albania. The first records of the Albanian people as a distinct ethnicity also date to this period."

    (wiki principality or arber)
    The Principality of Arbër (1190-1255) was the first Albanian state during the Middle Ages.

    (wiki albanian language)

    Earliest undisputed texts:
    The primary records in Albanian include the "Formula e pagëzimit" (baptesimal formula), dating back to 1462, authored by Pal Engjëlli (or Paulus Angelus) (ca. 1417–1470), Archbishop of Durrës and a close friend and counselor of Skanderbeg.


    please explain im very very stupid :rolleyes: is wikipedia run by serbs perhaps?:rolleyes:

    nobody disputed that the whole region was under otomans for 500 years...only you "sucked their #^%#" (as you so aptly put it) and converted to muslims and became "turks" and serbs remained christian and were decimated by you turks and defended kosovo and eventually fought them back...your statement makes no sense how did turks(kosovars) fight turks(otomans) when you converted to islam???

    you asked what is wrong with islam? NOTHING...its just that europe is NOT islamic...get it? LOL

    and no the countries in green are not separatists and extremists i explained above only some of them are , some are USA puppets, some you plain payed to accept you *read above* LOL...so now Russia is to blame :rolleyes: that 2/3 of the world does not accept you? LOL

    also kosovos "independence" is the biggest favor the USA ever did to serbs...you see serbia will never accept you...the EU does not give a shit about you (nor do they give a shit about anybody in the ex-yu)...you fought for a flag and for your leaders private country...other than abstract shit like "we now have a motheland" you have nothing at all but isolation to show for it...you think you will be accepted in the EU? riiiiight...small fish in a big pond...tell me how that works out for you LOL...i hear kosovo now is a model of prosperity (joke)...the separatists/nationalists dangled an abstract carrot in front of your noses and you went for it...just like the other separatists...big favor you did to everybody LOL...all you can do now is shout "god damned serbs" so as not to appear as complete morons LOL
     
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