Scary but true... Islamic demographics in Europe!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by luke12, Apr 22, 2010.

  1. Helvetii

    Helvetii Notable Member

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    #61
    @atvking: Your philosophy would work in an ideal world where all regions are equally developed and if people immigrate, its only for fun or for fondness of a culture. There would be no restriction on the movement of people....but surprise..we don't live in an ideal world. I once again say, since you are a refugee you are not capable of thinking independently without a bias on this matter.
     
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  2. atvking

    atvking Active Member

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    @obamanation

    if you think im going to jump through your troll hoops you must be on crack LOL...costs jump with the size of the population? no shit! so does income from tax...your point? oh right you did not have one...

    you want facts? well these guys:
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    have better health care than you do and its FREE but you want to blame the health care ripoff your government does on the cheap labor your countrymen exploit? LOL...if you need "US gov supported facts" to get this then you are a mental midget and i cant help you...

    with your terrorist little avatar and your apartheid little signature and your gay little location i can understand why you squirm around the fact that you will be sending the 500.000 immigrants you want to round up (like gestapo) and deport to their slow death...its obvious you dont give a crap and you are a prime example of the famous US double standard...just as long as it gives you a false sense of security and your precious precious imperialistic materialistic values are left intact :rolleyes:


    @helvetti

    not biased just informed...we had 1.000.000 "illegal aliens" in kosovo most of them had no documents and did not speak our language...but they were in no way our problem they were only used as an "Excuse" too...ideal world no...heartless yes...if you think deporting 500.000 people will make your life better then you are wrong...you will still have the same job and pay the same taxes and your government will outsource more and more and your consumer society will always want to pay less and get more...deport 500.000 people and you wont be creating any jobs for US citizens you will only be out of cheap labor...no US citizen wants to work for slave labor prices...
     
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  3. Helvetii

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    #63
    1 Million is not a big deal for refugees. Its one thing to take in people because their country is in a wreck and entirely another to take in people so they can earn here and send the money back home, pay no taxes, bring down social indicators - be a liability. And Mexicans may work cheap by US standards but its a lot of money for them, its not like they are being exploited. They have total freedom to leave if they are. BTW I'm not American FYI. I'm from India and I have seen a lot of refugees. We took in 120,000 refugees from Tibet when Chinese captured it (Dalai Lama lives in India), we took in 10,000,000 refugees when we liberated east pakistan. We took in millions more from Kashmir when Pak insurgency started. We took 60,000 from Afghanistan during the soviet war and still continue to take them. We took 11,000,000 refugees when Pakistan was carved out. We even took Tamil refugees from Sri Lanka when the government was cracking down on them.
     
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    #64
    I think immigration has two side!
    who are seeking job opportunity: they done hard labors and authorities less care about them and in other side they cause some crimes and conflicts.
    in this case many experts and intelligent people who are so creative will come and cause more wealth for host.
    and who immigrant with their wealth.
     
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  5. atvking

    atvking Active Member

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    well its a big deal if you have a population of 9.000.000 and 1 million of them are refugees or "illegals" + 1.000.000 "legal" refugees from the former war ...its like the USA was to have 30.000.000 "illegal" proportionally speaking...the war and milosevicis bullshit politics "got rid" of the "illegal" but our lives did not change for the better in any way...

    my point is: if you cant get a job its not the poor laborers fault...its yours...

    taking on refugees political or economic is just a sign of humanity...sure it costs your economy on some level...but it in no way justifies sending them to die from hunger...yes the refugees are happy with slave labor salaries but this does not change the fact that US citizens wont work for these salaries and that deporting them does not create any new jobs it just leaves the "shit jobs nobody else wants to do" empty...
     
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  6. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #66
    It must be the free health care they are fleeing in their make shift raft.

    You hate homosexuals too?


    I'm still waiting for my dollar. It will make no difference in your life and will help me out immensely. Don't be selfish. I even provided you some free education you obviously lack. That should be worth at least a dollar! Please! Send me my dollar!

    Hehe, committing genocide against your own citizens didn't help anything? Well there's a surprise. With solutions like that, I wonder if you haven't tried sh*ting all over your living room couch in an effort to get rid of the smell of urine.

    AtvKing, you've fallen completely off the wagon. When I saw you post links in your post, I was hopeful, but you've regressed into the usual bile including the use of the word gay in the pejorative. Perhaps your anger stems from the rejection of your application for a Visa to visit the US. If you used such language and express such views in your interview, it shouldn't come as a surprise.

    I especially appreciate your earlier reference to your own country as the "third world" while you took time to laud it's free health care. You also pointed out most of the remainder of the planet has free health care, yet immigrants continue to surge en masse to the US. I'm wondering if they come here so they can join our mercenary army to kill innocent civiliians, or if it is the lack of free health care that draws them. One thing is certain, and you made the point very well, I thought, when you stated how immigrant Muslims would change the face of America for ever. Controlling immigration in our country should be a near top priority if we value our culture (killing innocent civilians etc). We get too many Muslims at once, they will be begging for Sharia. We get too many poor uneducated illegals, they will be begging for free health care just like the shit hole country they just fled. Too many of your countrymen, and we will be rounding up and executing the gays, muslims, etc.

    As a side note, does the paradox of you stating/agreeing that Muslim immigrants will could change America completely while at the same time criticizing US immigration policies even register with you? It sounds like you may have Cassandra syndrome. We are a very capable nation, thank you very much.
     
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  7. atvking

    atvking Active Member

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    #67
    the cubans are fleeing from the decades of oppressive economic sanctions your terrorist government imposed on MILLIONS of people...you reduced cuba to a 3rd world shit hole like you have done to many other countries over FEAR and politics...still they have better health care that is FREE and less infant mortality :D care to comment?

    i dont hate homos..the more homos there are the more women there are for me :) ...it was just a cheap personal attack on you and i could not resist LOL

    me apply for a US visa? dont flatter yourself i live better than you do LOL...millions of people emigrate to europe too....even 3rd world serbia gets immigrants...what kind of point are you trying to make? poor people want to go somewhere better? or that your ivory tower is the shiny-est? typical arrogant neo con...

    my point with "third world" having free health care while mighty mighty america bankrupts its rich citizens is self explanatory...i like how you avoid commenting on this...amuses me to no end...must be them damn slave labor illegal aliens ? but wait! we have them too and our healtcare and education is FREEEEEEEEE ...looking forward to you squirming around this again :rolleyes:

    also i like how you avoid commenting on the fate of 500.000 people, whos rounding up you so adamantly condone, and their mass deportation...sounds like ethnic cleansing to me...also reminds me of hitler and his deportation of jews to their death...are you a jew? if so then congratulations! you win the "biggest hypocrite ever" award LOL

    as for criticizing US immigration policies i have full right...its heartless and cruel...500.000 human beings...as for the fate of the white US population your government is doing a good job of sealing it and polarizing everybody else against you with its fear monger pussyification politics...grow some balls eh?...the most scared nation in the world LOL...a nation united yet a nation divided...

    my suggestion: start being nice to other races...tick tick tick your time is running out...
     
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  8. vazon

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    #68
    This is the truth. I know about several US families which emigrated from US to Serbia. They are very often young couples and they come to Europe because they are looking for a safe place to raise their children. They find that traditional values such family, kind relations with other people etc are still important in Serbia and they are very happy in this small European country.
     
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    #69
    free education (college and masters included), free health care, low costs of living, no gangs, very little crime, no drug dealer on every corner, no rapist taxes and overpriced services and bullshit government regulations...but this will change soon because serbia, like the rest of the world is being "americanized" and we will all be consumer tax cattle soon...i know people who come to serbia just to get medical treatment or have their teeth repaired because the plane ticket to serbia + 5 star hotel + partying costs less than just the dental bill in the USA...granted this dental tourism is not for one filling but if you have something complicated to do you would be crazy to pay US prices...

    oh i forgot to mention the free housing we had until the sanctions/wars/bullshit...i payed a symbolic 1000 german marks to buy my apartment from the state...go USA! (sarcasm)
     
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    I'm still waiting for my dollar AtvKing. Since your country is so hospitable and desirable, we should re-route our illegal aliens there, no? You think they would complain? I didn't comment on healthcare because this thread isn't about health care. You need to stay focused if you are going to keep up.

    I just thought of another good alternative. We could stick an automatic weapon in all these would-be immigrants hands and send them out onto the battlefield to kill innocent civilians as sort of a rite of passage. Thats what we did with the Irish during the American Civil war(god knows we don't like the Irish much). I mean, you have to be able to kill if you are going to join a culture of killers, right? amiright?

    By the way, you once again exceeded the LOL count by two. I noticed you fought the urge to use more by replacing LOL with emoticons. I earlier guessed that it was nervous laughter, but looking at the wording, I'm leaning towards pure rage.


     
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    atvking Active Member

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    now you dont mention healthcare any more because , and only because, you have no argument...and its super obvious and amusing to no end...how much do you pay for medical insurance? (answer this and ill make fun of you LOL)

    and my LOL count is only because you are so genuinely amusing with your BS...seriously you have talent you should consider stand up comedy :D

    slovaks? oh i get it this is your famous US overpriced "education" kicking in...let me educate you...slovaks live like 1000km to the north in slovakia...they are not to be confused with serbs or slavs...also you really really dont want me to list horror films about US retard red-neck inbreed little villages and what happens to accidental passers by LOOL...it outnumbers your "hostel" example by 1000:1 LOL...the US must be a lovely place to live :D i envy you sooooo much LOL tell me are you a slack jaw overweight psycho inbreed like in the movies? :rolleyes:

    also notice how all the "customers" from the hostel were american :D old habits die hard eh? ...you give such good examples LOL
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    LOL count at 9. Can you translate that into blood pressure for me? Where's my dollar?
     
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    #73
    I do not see why do you guys waste your time on such discussion when everybody on the Earth know that US is a horrible country, a huge Terror generator, an Nazi state. You do not have your own culture, you did not do any good thing to whole humankind... bunch of ignorant savages.
     
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    Another troll? Really? Wonderful! Here's a question, what can we do to make you happy? You want our wealth? Take it! You want our land? Take it! Accept every immigrant from every other nation? Terrific! Just don't ask us to stop slaughtering women and children. We like that too much and it is an integral part of what little culture we have.
     
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    Atvking You saying that you had 1million illegal immigrants in Kosovo . Your stats are a little off . They are only 180000 illegal Serbs immigrants from the total population of 2.1 million of Kosovo which is 92% Albanian.
     
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    #76

    The leaders of US are horrible..not the country
     
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    #77
    He's only loosely in touch with reality. Facts just get him agitated. Be careful or he'll fling his poo at you.

    True enough. This year hopefully we can fix that.
     
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    #78
    Do you know what is the real problem? The fact that you think that other nations wants your land, wealth or wathewer. Why do you think that everyone want to emigrate in US?? This is ridiculous!

    Just leave us alone with our own land and wealth... we have enough of it, but the problem is that you come here to take our land, our culture, our wealth. US government is so much aggressive. It acts like very very hungry animal. Every single war on the Earth in last 50 years was caused by US. Isn't It enough? You are bothering us! Stop looking what your neighbors are doing, leave them alone and everything should be ok.
     
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    It is obviously that you do not have idea what is happening on Kosovo. Serbs was majority on Kosovo for more than thousand years. Real issues started when Yugoslavian communistic regime (which was Serbophobic) started to import Albanians with idea to reduce power of Serbian element in communistic Yugoslavia.
     
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    illegal serbs in kosovo? ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

    let me guess you are a "kosovar" ...so the serbs were so bad to you that you overpopulated them 9:1?!?! REALLY? LOL...only obamanation is stupid enough to believe you LOL...out of the 195 countries in the world only 66 recognize you and out of them 66 half are your muslim buddies and the other half are US butt kissers or separatist countries themselves :rolleyes: ***tell me why is this?*** why does the majority of the countries in the world NOT accept you? please please explain LOL:rolleyes::rolleyes:

    how many of you had yugoslavian documents/papers/passports? how many of you actually spoke our language to be able to get a job? riiiiiight...we (yugoslavia) took your albanian asses in and took care of you and you stabbed us in the back..."illegal serbs" funny LOL...you just forgot to mention where the fuck you came from and how it REALLY was in your wonderful motherland albania ahahahahahahahaah "illegal serbs" ahaahahahahahahaha

    want to hear a good joke? here it is: 2 muslim countries (bosnia and kosovo) in the heart of europe! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA! thats some funny shit LOL

    @obamanation
    yes you are such an "expert" on our region and history you thought we were slovaks who live 1000km to the north...its a good thing you did not invade them by mistake LOL i really like you (no sarcasm) you have no idea about anything LOL

    @vazon

    dont waste your time trying to explain...i mean what else are separatists going to say? maybe the truth? hahahaha...the truth is croats, "bosniaks" (what ever the fuck that is) , "kosovars" and their US masters need to clean the blood of their hands so they make serbs "genetically evil" and if you repeat a lie 100x it becomes history...as the old saying goes: good guys finish last
     
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