Like I said, WHY should I keep debunking each of your false testimonies of the Bible? For everyone I debunk you post 3 more. Come on, how stupid do you think I am?? Nevermind-obviously you think I am a numbskull.. If you have a legitimate issue with the Bible, bring it here and lets discuss it, but stop copying from another site all of these stupid supposed contradictions or errors. There is a site I found with men debunking them one by one for one of your buddies, so go there so I don't have to waste my time. Next time someone tells you (or you read on the internet) that the Bible is full of errors or has been changed, get some proof. Everytime another manuscript is found, it only has proven that the Bible is full of accuracy, not the other way around. So do some reading - starting with the Bible. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God." The new testament COMPLETES the old testament - the koran is the opposite of both.
Sister Angellica I dont know arabic but I have read both arabic and english translation of Quran so I know and understand holy quran very well. I told you to give me proofs but you wrote statements without giving any proofs.I mean when I write something eg how todays bible is not the holy bible of Jesus(PBUH) I will quote books and verses or page numbers from Bible so that one can find the information easily which I mentioned in posts. What all you wrote is because of your misunderstanding and no knowledge about Islam. Let me start with the following verses : 1. >>>“Whoever kills a person who has a truce with the Muslims will never smell the fragrance of Paradise.†(Saheeh Muslim) Since the upper hand was with the Muslims, the Prophet strictly warned against any maltreatment of people of other faiths. He said: “Beware! Whoever is cruel and hard on a non-Muslim minority, curtails their rights, burdens them with more than they can bear, or takes anything from them against their free will; I (Prophet Muhammad) will complain against the person on the Day of Judgment.†(Abu Dawud) It was allowed, however, for individual tribes who were not Muslims, to refer to their own religious scriptures and their learned men in regards to their own personal affairs. They could though, if they opted, ask the Prophet to judge between them in their matters. God says in the Quran: “If they do come to you, either judge between them or decline to interfere.†(Quran 5:42) Here we see that Prophet allowed each religion to judge in their own matters according to their own scriptures, as long as it did not stand in opposition to articles of the constitution, a pact which took into account the greater benefit of the peaceful co-existence of the society. 2. Given consent by the constitution, the Jews had the complete freedom to practice their religion. The Jews in Medina at the time of the Prophet had their own school of learning, named Bait-ul-Midras, where they would recite the Torah, worship and educate themselves. The Prophet emphasized in many letters to his emissaries that religious institutions should not be harmed. Here in a letter addressed to his emissary to the religious leaders of Saint Catherine in Mount Sinai who sought the protection of the Muslims: “This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them. Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by God! I hold out against anything that displeases them. No compulsion is to be on them. Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries. No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims’ houses. Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God’s covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate. No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight. The Muslims are to fight for them. If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray. Their churches are declared to be protected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants. No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world).â€[1] As one can see, this Charter consisted of several clauses covering all important aspects of human rights, including such topics as the protection of minorities living under Islamic rule, freedom of worship and movement, freedom to appoint their own judges and to own and maintain their property, exemption from military service, and the right to protection in war. On another occasion, the Prophet received a delegation of sixty Christians from the region of Najran, then a part of Yemen, at his mosque. When the time for their prayer came, they faced the direction of east and prayed. The Prophet ordered that they be left in their state and not harmed. 3.Other veses “There is no compulsion in religion†(Quran 2:256) and “To your be your religion, to me be mine.†These verses clearly suggest that Allah never teach us to kill our enemy till they receive Allah and his prophet ...when he himself says in Quran that there is no compulsion in religion.Everyone is free to pray and practise his religion. 4."Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (The Noble Quran, 2:190)" "On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land. (The Noble Quran, 5:32)" "Those who invoke not, with God, any other god, nor slay such life as God has made sacred except for just cause, nor commit fornication; - and any that does this (not only) meets punishment. (But) the Penalty on the Day Of Judgement will be doubled To him, and he will dwell Therein in ignominy. (The Noble Quran, 25:68-69)" "But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). (The Noble Quran, 8:61)" "If thou dost stretch thy hand against me, to slay me, it is not for me to stretch my hand against thee to slay thee: for I do fear God, the cherisher of the worlds. (The Noble Quran, 5:28)" "God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (The Noble Quran, 60:8)" "And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for God. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrongdoers. (The Noble Quran 2:193)" "Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. (The Noble Quran, 2:256)" "Again and again will those who disbelieve, wish that they had bowed (to God's will) in Islam. Leave them alone, to enjoy (the good things of this life) and to please themselves: let (false) hope amuse them: soon will knowledge (undeceive them). (The Noble Quran, 15:2-3)" "Say, 'The truth is from your Lord': Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject (it):......(The Noble Quran, 18:29)" "If it had been thy Lord's will, they would all have believed,- all who are on earth! wilt thou then COMPEL mankind, against their will, to believe! (The Noble Quran, 10:99)" "Say: 'Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger: but if ye turn away, he is only responsible for the duty placed on him and ye for that placed on you. If ye obey him, ye shall be on right guidance. The Messenger's duty is only to preach the clear (Message). (The Noble Quran, 24:54)" "Say : O ye that reject Faith! I worship not that which ye worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. To you be your Way, and to me mine. (The Noble Quran, 109:1-6)" "Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: 'O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness.' (The Noble Quran, 18:86)" In this Noble Verse we see that if the enemy wants to do us harm, then we must punish those who did us harm. Otherwise, we must treat the enemy civilians and the innocents with kindness. Let us look at Noble Verse 45:14 "Tell those who believe, to forgive those who do not look forward to the days of Allah: It is for Him to recompense (for good or ill) each people according to what they have earned." Let us look at Noble Verse 5:32 "...if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people..." In this Noble Verse we clearly see that Allah Almighty honors all the innocent souls that He created. Killing any innocent soul is so hated by Allah Almighty that He considers it as a crime against all of Mankind. Let us look at Noble Verse 25:68 "Those who invoke not, with God, any other god, nor slay such life as God has made sacred except for just cause, nor commit fornication; - and any that does this (not only) meets punishment." In this Noble Verse we clearly see that Allah Almighty considers the innocent soul "sacred". He will punish those who kill the innocent souls (by throwing them in hell). Let us look at Noble Verse 2:182 "But if anyone fears partiality or wrong-doing on the part of the testator, and makes peace between (The parties concerned), there is no wrong in him: For God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful." Let us look at Noble Verse 2:224 "And make not God's (name) an excuse in your oaths against doing good, or acting rightly, or making peace between persons; for God is One Who heareth and knoweth all things." I'd say, this Noble Verse clearly proves my point: Let us look at Noble Verse 8:61 "But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things)." In this Noble Verse, we clearly see Allah Almighty ordering us, the Muslims, to incline toward peace when the enemy inclines toward peace. This proves that Islam is not a religion for wars, but for peace. Allah Almighty orders Muslims in the Noble Quran to allow total freedom of choice to people and to never try to force them into Islam; "Let there be no compulsion (forcing others) in religion: Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. (The Noble Quran, 2:256)" The Noble Quran prohibits Muslims to force any person into Islam. Muslims must not let people resent Islam and Muslims. They must leave people decide for themselves because the "Truth stands out clear from error...(2:256)" Compulsion is incompatible with religion: Because (1) religion depends upon faith and will, and these would be meaningless by force; (2) Truth and Error have been so clearly shown up by the mercy of Allah Almighty that there should be no doubt in the minds of any persons of good will as to the fundamentals of faith; (3) Allah Almighty's protection is continuous, and His Plan is always to lead us from the depths of darkness into the clearest light. In the above Noble Verses, we clearly see that Allah Almighty orders the Muslims to be forgiving to the enemies and to make peace and peace making their top priority. It is part of the Muslim's morals to be a peaceful person. Muslims start their greetings with "As'salamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatu Allah Wa Barakatuh", which means in English "May GOD's peace, mercy and blessings be upon you." All these verses prove Allah Almighty has given the first priority to forgiveness but if they enemy want to kill us then we have to fight for our self defence in the name of Allah. JIHAD sister Angellica most of the people including you have misunderstood this word Jihad and blaming muslims. I will give you one example. If someone tries to rape your sister(for example) what should she do : a) allow herself to get raped b)protect herself in self defence C)get hurt badly and do nothing afterthat. definitely she will protect herself in self defence and fight the rapist from commiting such crime. That is Jihad. Allah doesn't want us to fight and forgive our enemies but if you have to protect yourself then you have to fight by the name of Allah which means by the permission of Allah otherwise never start the fight yourself.Jihad tells us not to start the war or fight.In day to-day life Jihad is used by thousands of people(muslims,jews,christians,hindus) for there self defence and to save themselves. (I apologise If I hurt you,it was just an example. I hope you must be convinced by this. If you want to give proof next time, refer from which book (Bible or Quran are you giving example... I will definitely prove my best to answer all your queries
Dear brother Debunked It is not my hobby to pin point errors in Bible.I was challenged by some members here that's why I posted all that and proved I am right. There was a debate held in chicago By William Campbell and Dr. Zakir Nair in 2000 which Dr. Nair won and proved 29 scientific errors in Bible and William couldnt do anything but to watch himself getting humilated.Thousands of people in chicago were witness to this. There is nothing for me to prove now. You can watch this video also in IRF website.
You didn't prove you were right about 1 thing yet. So you may want to start over. You are right that Dr.Zakir won the debate as a debator, but like John Kerry, it didn't amount to much, just lots of good sounding words - like the serpent to Eve - "Did God really say?....." Tricky, sounds good, but at the end was still debunked later, so do some research, it won't hurt you unless you tell the wrong person who has to kill you for checking out the trooth.
What good can a man at 59 do by marriage to a girl at 9 years of age? Or the other way around a 59 year old woman to a 9 year old boy? i found something in the quran. Seems like 'SLAVERY' was OK with Muhammad. Al-Ahzab | 73 verses | The Coalition 52 It is not lawful for you (to marry other) women after this, nor to change them for other wives even though their beauty attracts you, except those (captives or slaves) whom your right hand possesses. And Allah is Ever a Watcher over all things. An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #3) (2) And if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphangirls, then marry (other) women of your choice, two or three, or four but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one or (the captives and the slaves) that your right hands possess. That is nearer to prevent you from doing injustice. (3) Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those (captives and slaves) whom your right hands possess. Thus has Allah ordained for you. BULSHIT!!! God has not ordained men to marry at will captives or slaves. Instead of talking about marriage to captive or slave women WHY DIDN'T HE COMMAND THE MEN TO FREE THE CAPTIVES AND THE SLAVES? Every Spiritual Teacher/Guru will tell you that Slavery is a human invention. God does not like people to be slaves to each other. Jesus' divine ideas exclude slavery. Love each other. Love your neighbor like yourself. Love your enemies. If you follow these divine ideas even if you have slaves you have to free them. It is OBVIOUS. But Muhammad DIDN'T HAVE THESE IDEAS in his heart. Do you muslims and non muslims think it is OK for a man or a prophet to have captives or slaves? My oppinion: This is way over the board for me to accept for a messange from God. I got pissed off to read such things from a book called "Holly". THERE IS NOTHING HOLLY IN POSSESSING SLAVES OR CAPTIVES!!! Sorry muslims. Even if this hurts you ....... not my problem. Do the politicians in Washington and Europe are aware of this teaching? If not, one day they'll find out the hard way. What happened in Kosovo and Chechnya may come sooner than expected here in US or in west Europe. All they need is time to grow in numbers. Then the separatist movement will follow. Then Islamic country. Then all sorts of troubles. I want people to live as Jesus direct us. But a teaching with a prophet that is OK with slavery and the suppression of woment are a danger to the values of our society. It is against the freedom and democracy values we have. How many muslim countries are democracies? Not very many. Other Big difference: Poligamy is unconstitutional as far as I know in US and Europe. It is even a crime to marry two or three or more women. Muhammad is ok with that. He said he is a messanger of God. I don't agree this message of being married to more than one woman is a message from God. The message from God is one man one woman. We are not on the level of the animals in the jungle as some are trying to compare us to. ................ I was looking for something Divine in the quran with open mind ........ but man, these orders about marriages for captives and slaves showed me the heart of a prophet I never expected to see. sunlove May Muhammad rest in peace, he cannot be though my guidence light. These are the guidence light: Love governs everything and everyone submits to it. Only Love can create a true man. Anything that is out of the realm of love is not real. Only Love can create true life. Love is the best life. Love drives away all dark powers.
Did you read it really? Looks like you just looked at lines and passages that pleases you and your deceived character. Read it again and full text with all the links pointed too.
I didint read it. I watched it on TV as I have its CD of full coverage.If you will watch it completely then you will come to know that at the end Zakir Nair made William Campbell almost to consume poison. Dont read all this fake stuff brother. seeing is believing so go and watch full video and then talk. SunLove what all you posted shows your misunderstandings about Islam.I will clear all your doubts and misunderstandings as I have been doing here but you guys are still the same. As far as our Prophets Muhammad's(PBUH) marriage with Aisha was concerned, I have posted 3 times and given 9 strong points also.You can browse previous pages to see my posts and If still you have any doubt ask me anything I will post about this matter again.
You contradict yourself in the first sentence. Are you on drugs? If listening to muslim scholars you need to take a lot of anti venomous medication.
Muslim I m having problems with christanity which i dont want 2 mention here.I donno much abt islam except tht muslims worship only 1 God n pray 5 times.Can u plz send me links of some websites abt islam whr i can read kuran and understand islam.
I can give you the links for English Quran; http://www.kuran.gen.tr/?x=s_main&kid=14 http://www.kuran.gen.tr/?x=s_main&kid=15 http://www.kuran.gen.tr/?x=s_main&kid=33 All of them from different translators, you choose which one you wanna read.
I forgive all your sins!., Does that make me god??., Noone can forgive noone's sins, You reap what you sow.,
Willie, from the famous americans that converted to Islam that I know of is Mike Tyson. He probably knows as much about Islam as you do. If you want to learn about Islam go to islamic country. Saudi Arabia, Iran etc. take with you your mother and sisters as well. Then let us know how you all liked it. sunlove IMO before you set your life right, you'll mess it up further. ..... Noone can forgive noone's sins, ...... How do you know that sarathy? Did God tell you that? If nothing is impossible to God, then why it isn't possible for God to give such powers to whoever He pleases?
Brother Willie I am very happy that you are taking interest in the true religion of Islam.You can read these following websites to know about Islam.My brother Leet has already forwarded you the links.you can read Quran from there. The websires are: 1)http://www.islamreligion.com/ 2)http://www.islamworld.net/ 3)http://www.why-christians-convert-to-islam.com These are the best websites for non muslims to understand Islam. Brother if you have any queries about Islam please post them here.I will answer all your queries inshallah. I mean to say I can read Arabic but i cant understand it that's why to understand Holy Quran I read it in english.It is prohibited in our religion to take drugs.
Muslim, the writer of the 3rd site on your list is similar to the others you have used. He takes versus out of context and even makes up his own description of things - like he says that Paul told people to be creative and imaginative??? What? He was telling them how to use the gifts of the spirit correctly (Holy Spirit - which btw is not mohamad like another false prophet tries to say the Spirit is in his writings.) Do these guys only have time to try to make the Bible look like it is saying things it does not? Willie, If you are serious, then you seriously need to read the bible in context and not what somebody says that it says - these sites are misleading and designed to be so - like satin they run on confusion and deceit. satin is the author of lies - so use that to see past the veil.
Why don't you invite this guy Zakir Nair here on this forum to answer some of our questions? As for my misunderstanding of the Quran explain please what is that that I didn't understand? I do understand that Muhammad said TRUE things about God. But I see though a lot of Muhammad's deeds are not the best example to follow (one example his tolerance of slavery and captivity). May God judge him. If you Love somebody you let/set him free? True or False? If you follow these commandments: Love each other. Love your neighbor like yourself. Love your enemies. How are going to tolerate slavery or captivity?
Al-Ahzab | 73 verses | The Coalition 033.052 YUSUFALI: It is not lawful for thee (to marry more) women after this, nor to change them for (other) wives, even though their beauty attract thee, except any thy right hand should possess : and Allah doth watch over all things. PICKTHAL: It is not allowed thee to take (other) women henceforth, nor that thou shouldst change them for other wives even though their beauty pleased thee, save those whom thy right hand possesseth. And Allah is ever Watcher over all things. SHAKIR: It is not allowed to you to take women afterwards, nor that you should change them for other wives, though their beauty be pleasing to you, except what your right hand possesses and Allah is Watchful over all things. My explination This is translation by 3 great muslim scholars about the verse you are talking about.you know what it means: it means it is not allowed to you to take other women as your wives even if you get attracted to there beauty.Only on the condition you can marry again is that you can be equally fair to the other wife like you can to the first wife. An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #3) (2) And if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphangirls, then marry (other) women of your choice, two or three, or four but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one or (the captives and the slaves) that your right hands possess. That is nearer to prevent you from doing injustice. 004.003 YUSUFALI: If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice. PICKTHAL: And if ye fear that ye will not deal fairly by the orphans, marry of the women, who seem good to you, two or three or four; and if ye fear that ye cannot do justice (to so many) then one (only) or (the captives) that your right hands possess. Thus it is more likely that ye will not do injustice. SHAKIR: And if you fear that you cannot act equitably towards orphans, then marry such women as seem good to you, two and three and four; but if you fear that you will not do justice (between them), then (marry) only one or what your right hands possess; this is more proper, that you may not deviate from the right course. This verse is telling about orphan girls My explination: Holy Quran gives us permission to marry orphan girls on the condition that we have to treat equally both our wife and orphan girl.It is not possible to treat equally two wives thus it is impossible to marry again but if some muslims think they can be just to two wives then they can marry. Is it bad to marry orphan girls...girls with noone to take care. whats is wrong in this. Our religion is so great that it tells us to marry but not have sex before marriage and sex with anyother girl except wife. Dear brother please dont post wrong translation of Quran.Tell me the verse I will tell you the meaning. Our beloved prophet never allowed slaves infact they prohibited it.
I don't know what the koran says about slavery, but the things about slavery in the Bible were dealing with the treatment of slaves, but not saying slavery was ok. The culture had slavery at that time. The deeds of the men in the old testament like Moses and David show that they overall obeyed God, but they all failed somewhere, sometime. But God never condoned that wrong behavior. From what I am seeing about Mohamad is that those things were ok for him to do, but not for anyone else, with many exceptions of course. Suicidal bombers can party and have multiple partners because they will be dying, so it is ok. They will be rewarded with more sex later.
Do you know it was Islam which finished the slavery.I will post that later Lets look about slavery in Bible and what you guys have to tell about it: FROM OLD TESTAMENT let us look at Exodus 21:20-21 "If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property." Notice how the Bible doesn't recognize the slave male or female as a normal human being. If the master beats his servant to death, then the master will not get the death punishment or penalty. He will only be punished, but not to death. This punishment mighty be even a light one such as a single light whip since the punishment was not determined. Let us look at Deuteronomy 24:7 "If a man is caught kidnapping one of his brother Israelites and treats him as a slave or sells him, the kidnapper must die. You must purge the evil from among you." This verse quite clearly states that the Israeli is better in human value than any other human being in the eyes of GOD. If an Israeli is treated as a slave, then we would have the world's greatest problems. But however, it is ok to treat others as slaves, and to kill them too according to Exodus 21:20 above. Let us look at Leviticus 25:39 "If one of your countrymen becomes poor among you and sells himself to you, do not make him work as a slave." This verse seems to despise the slaves by ordering people to be merciful on others from the same tribe and not to treat them bad and not to make them work as slaves. It is quite obvious that his verse doesn't believe in human equality. 2- Which has more value, a slave or an animal? Let us look at Exodus 23:12 "Six days do your work, but on the seventh day do not work, so that your ox and your donkey may rest and the slave born in your household, and the alien as well, may be refreshed." We can obviously see from this verse that the slave and the animal have the same value. A human slave in the Bible is an animal and not a human being. This verse puts the animals and the slave in the same category. It doesn't separate them. Consider the following from the book of Exodus: Let us look at Exodus 21:28 "If a bull gores a man or a woman to death, the bull must be stoned to death, and its meat must not be eaten. But the owner of the bull will not be held responsible." Let us also look at Exodus 21:29 "If, however, the bull has had the habit of goring and the owner has been warned but has not kept it penned up and it kills a man or woman, the bull must be stoned and the owner also must be put to death." Let us look at Exodus 21:31 "This law also applies if the bull gores a son or daughter." Now, let us look at this verse Exodus 21:32 "If the bull gores a male or female slave, the owner must pay thirty shekels of silver to the master of the slave, and the bull must be stoned. (but not to death)" Notice how in Exodus 21:28, if a bull gores a normal human being, then it must be put to death. Also, notice that Exodus 21:29 punishes the owner for not stopping the bull's habit by stoning him to death when his bull kills a normal human being. Notice however, that in Exodus 21:32, if a bull gores a slave male or female to death, then the bull will only be stoned but not to death. Unlike in Exodus 21:28, the bull will survive. I think we can conclude from the above that according to the Bible, even an animal has more value in it than a human slave. 3- Does the Bible order its followers to inherit the slaves and their children? Let us look at Leviticus 25:44-46 "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly." What kind of a human value does the Bible give to slaves? If slaves and their children must be inherited and passed down to newer generations as slaves, then how in the world will they ever gain their freedom?? Does the Bible believe in Freedom? Does the Bible believe in liberating human beings from slavery? Apparently it does not !!!. 3.NEW TESTAMENT Let us look at Galatians 4:28-31 "Now you, brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise. At that time the son born in the ordinary way persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit. It is the same now. But what does the Scripture say? 'Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman's son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman's son.' Therefore, brothers, we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman." This verse from the New Testament despises children who are born from slave mothers. This verse doesn't recognize children born from slave mothers as normal sons because they are not allowed to inherit. This verse doesn't recognize slaves as equal to normal human beings. This verse agrees fully 100% with slavery and enslaving people. Let us look at Philemon 15-19 "Perhaps the reason he was separated from you for a little while was that you might have him back for good no longer as a slave, but better than a slave, as a dear brother. He is very dear to me but even dearer to you, both as a man and as a brother in the Lord. So if you consider me a partner, welcome him as you would welcome me. If he has done you any wrong or owes you anything, charge it to me. I, Paul, am writing this with my own hand. I will pay it back not to mention that you owe me your very self." This verse is another proof that the Bible (1) Looks as slaves as sub humans or animals as was shown in Exodus 23:12 and Leviticus 25:46, (2) A slave is a despised person that he will never ever be recognized as a normal human being unless he becomes a Christian. If the slave refuses to become a Christian, then he will never gain his freedom, and he will never be even looked at as a human being; he must always be treated as an animal by the Christians. Let us look at 1 Corinthians 7 "Were you a slave when you were called? Don't let it trouble you although if you can gain your freedom, do so. For he who was a slave when he was called by the Lord is the Lord's freedman; similarly, he who was a free man when he was called is Christ's slave." In this verse, Paul was asking the person "Were you a slave?" meaning Were you something bad and not normal? Also "...if you can gain your freedom, do so... (1 Corinthians 7)" which means that the New Testament will not help anyone nor will call any Christian to fight for the rights of any slave to be freed. The slave will simply have to either live as a slave and die as a slave, or fight for his freedom against Christians. Let us look at 1 Timothy 6:1 "All who are under the yoke of slavery should consider their masters worthy of full respect, so that God's name and our teaching may not be slandered." Matthew 10:24 "A student is not greater than the teacher. A slave is not greater than the master." Let us look at 1 Peter 2:18 "Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh." Let us look at Colossians 3:22 "Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to win their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord." 4.The history of the Church allowing and promoting Slavery: .It was this Church that initially ordered the slavery of Africans - the Africans who were enslaved were Muslims! In 1457, the Council of Cardinals met in Holland where they sanctioned, as a righteous and progressive idea, the enslavement of Africans for the purpose of their conversion to Christianity and exploitation in the labor market as chattel property. This satanic scheme speedily gained the sanctimonious blessing of the Pharaoh (Pope) and became a standard policy of the Catholic Church, and later of the Protestant churches, enduring for three centuries: thus the ghastly traffic in human misery was anointed with the oil of pontifical righteousness in Jesus' name. A bull of Pharaoh Nicholas 5th instructed his followers to `attack, subject, and reduce to perpetual slavery the Saracens, Pagans and other enemies of Christ, southward from Cape Bojador and including all the coast of Guinea'. In fact, most of the Africans who were caught up in the Atlantic slave trade came from West Africa, an area roughly from Senegal River in the north to the Congo River in the South. But why were West Africans specifically targeted ? Because they were Muslim.Unlike Christians then, Muslims faced few obstacles to trade and spreading Islam throughout the world. When the Church discovered that Muslims from West Africa were actually doing so, they launched the Naval Crusade and the brutal slavery of West Africans. We also find that during the Scramble for Africa / colonization of Africa, two countries were totally unaffected - Liberia and Ethiopia. In fact Ethiopia doubled the size of its empire during European colonization. Why ? They were CHRISTIAN countries! Perhaps that is why the White Christian societies had always had Black African slaves! The Church in Europe had always allowed enslaving Africans. The African slaves were brought to the U.S tied in chains after the church gave the OK on that!. Perhaps the Ku Klux Klan ideas of enslaving Africans are not all Biblically false after all, since they claim that they support their argument from the Bible!. The Bible in both the Old Testament and the New Testament doesn't recognize slaves as human beings. The Bible also in both the Old and the New Testaments encourages slavery and enslaving people. It doesn't encourage nor command Christians to fight for others' rights and to liberate them from slavery. Instead, the Bible repeatedly talks about slaves as worthless sub humans and animals who must not gain their freedom unless they convert to Christianity.