Hot Cake Is Ready! Are You Hungry? - Hungry Crowd + Converting Product (1:21)

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by Robert25, Jan 25, 2010.

  1. goopygoo

    goopygoo Peon

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    #21
    I'm an experienced vendor and it's baffled me

    The only thing I can explain is that you've only had 1 aff selling it.
     
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    #22
    I'm not sure but I think that gravity numbers aren't per affiliate

    E.G. 1 affiliate sale doesn't mean you have 1 gravity, it could be .5 gravity or what ever. I don't think clickbank has released the exact numbers for what the gravity of product is.

    Or, clickbank gravity just takes a little while to update

    Just my .02
     
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  3. Robert25

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    #23
    This might be the case, I will wait till tomorrow, else I will place a support ticket tomorrow.
     
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    petyard Well-Known Member

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    #24
    the layout is soooooo ..like the other websites in the same niche
    I mean..is almost identical..columns, texts
    anyway is the same idea...10 screenshots and no physical software right?
     
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    Ripped Well-Known Member

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    #25
    The gravity updates every day.
    You should have around 4-5 gravity by tommorow since you say you had around 5 affiliates make a sale.
     
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    #26
    I'm seeing the gravity at 3.8 currently so it seems to be updated. It will be higher once EZA approves my articles and I make some sales :).

    They declined like 6 of my articles all written on this subject for some reason even though they are all original. What I don't get is that I've written similar articles on this subject before and they were approved just fine.

    They didn't give me a reason in the email at all and I haven't heard back from their support team so now I'm just waiting.
     
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  7. goopygoo

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    #27
    EZA are strict about articles that are just rehashed versions of previous ones now.

    You can't just blast out 20 articles on one subject any more. You need to make the content diverse and unique for each. They'll typically accept like 4-5 of the similar type of article, but after that you'll just get knocked back every time.

     
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    matthieuim Active Member

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    #28
    I am setting up a PPC campaign for this product right now. :)
     
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    petyard Well-Known Member

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    #29
    still waiting for an answer..is this a software or a guide?
     
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  10. matthieuim

    matthieuim Active Member

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    #30
    its software
     
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  11. J1218

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    #31
    That's stupid though. All the keywords are different and the articles are on different gaming systems.

    The only thing that's sort of congruent with all the articles is the strategy of how you copy the games.

    I wrote each article so it was 100% different than the others. I don't know how else to tell someone how to copy their games other than what I talked about.

    It would be like if I wrote weight-loss articles. There are really only a few ways to lose weight that actually work so that is exactly what I would write about. Do they expect me to lie to the reader or come up with this unheard of method just so it doesn't appear similar to another article?

    Now I see why people get frustrated with EZA. I never had problems with them before and now all of a sudden they won't take 8 of my articles.

    (2 more were declined today)
     
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  12. petyard

    petyard Well-Known Member

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    #32
    how do you know? the highest gravity product in this niche is not..
     
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  13. goopygoo

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    #33
    They don't want their site 'raped' (to find a better term) by the amount of spam articles that used to make it on there.

    It's got to be quality now and that means that 100's of similar articles are a no-no.


     
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    #34
    Well they're doin a poor job at that based on the amount of low quality articles still all over that place.

    I think I've seen more articles on EZA with poor grammar and spelling mistakes that look like a 6 year old wrote them than actual quality articles.

    Sucks that people like us that actually write quality stuff gotta suffer.

    I just checked out your blog too btw. I like your plan. Good luck with it and I hope you do achieve your goal.

    Do you update it often and keep it as a journal like some of the others on here have done? Like where you discuss what you do each day, your current earnings and how close you are to your goal? It would be cool to watch your progress and I think it will inspire a lot of others to do the same.
     
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  15. goopygoo

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    #35
    I was feeling like you do with EZA. Try writing down your feelings when you get your account suspended for 'derivative content'. It's a big problem that many affiliate marketers suffered for.

    However, in order to maintain at least some integrity of their site, I think EZA are just clamping down on the obvious promotional content which is rehashed over and over once a sale is made.



    Thanks for the comments about my blog :D.

    I actually just started it yesterday but it's going to be updated very reguarly (plans for twice daily articles at present but that will probably slow down when I get some otehr stuff going). I have a head full of marketing & business knowledge and thought that I might as well document my use of it to see if it's actually effective as I think.

    I've been doing this stuff since 06 (when I was 16) and after going full time at 18 I feel its time to really get into the big league.

    So it's kind of a journal but I don't plan on releasing my sales figures like what Robert25 does (he actually inspired me to do it). I'm concentrating on my net worth instead of earnings to take my mind of the countless "here today gone tomorrow" tactics that I used to do a lot.

    Anyways without hijacking this thread, thanks for visiting my site and keep checking back because I'm going to detail some nice stuff on there. I think it will especially help your mindset.


     
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    #36
    Yeah, I think I may switch to ArticlesBase like a lot of others have recommended. EZA is becoming too much of a pain.

    They are going to lose a lot of business if they keep declining articles for stupid reasons like that. We as marketers are what keeps them in business and they need to realize that. Nobody is going onto EZA or any article directory and writing articles for the fun of it.

    I could understand if my articles were garbage and didn't give any useful information. Or if they were stuffed with keywords, poor grammar, and bad spelling. But they are none of those. I saved all "promotion" for the resource box as they tell you to do and I gave good content in the body.

    As far as your blog, I'm looking forward to reading your updates and see how you progress. Good luck :)

     
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    #37
    i will write 6 articles about this niche that 3 articles submit in ezinarticle and 3 other articles will submit in articlebase.

    is it enough for promoting this niche ?!
     
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  18. J1218

    J1218 Well-Known Member

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    #38
    I see you saying the exact same thing and askin the exact same questions on everybodys threads about their products. Are you posting just to post or have you honestly not figured out the answer to the same question you've asked 20 times?

    Read the forums and your questions will be answered. There is no "set" amount of articles you have to write in order to be successful in a niche. You could write 1 article on a good buying keyword and have it make you hundreds of dollars or more a month and you could also write 1000 articles and never make a penny if you don't know what you're doing.
     
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  19. Robert25

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    #39
    Hello Guys,

    Last month there were tons of discussions going on about the GCM's refund rate some people claim refunds as high as 30% and I was not able to defend myself because for some affiliates it was really giving the worst refund rate.


    I studied my competitors and some of my top affiliates(those who have low refund rates) and changed my product accordingly.

    Following is the image where you can check refund rate of Game Copy Monster.

    Soon I will share a landing page by which can really low down the refund rate of GCM by far..

    One tip.. If you want to promote GCM then I will recommend you to build a site around copy xbox 360 games(burn/backup). This will increase your conversion ratio with low refund rates.


    P.S. My top affiliate is making daily couple of sales with PPC..

    Best luck!
     

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  20. petyard

    petyard Well-Known Member

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    #40
    all the products in this niche have high refund rates. And you know why: because the landing page is misleading. The customer feels cheated. Wants his money back.
    Make an honest website, the conversion rates will be lower but the refund rates will also be lower.
    Oh wait..you don't wanna do that..because you will lose affiliates, gravity will go down, and you prefer to make a sale and get a refund rather than not making that sale.
    For the affiliates, is much worse to see the refund than it is for the vendor. Me, I prefer no sale and no refund rather than a sale with a refund the next day. Yes, in this niche, many refunds are made in the following 1-3 days. And you know why: because the soon realize the "magic" product is actually a link to a free software and a couple of screenshots.


    Anyway, I don't wanna start a rant here, this is just to share my experience with this niche, for people wanting to enter this niche. My advice: find another niche.
     
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