What does it take to reach a Pagerank 5

Discussion in 'Google' started by mdvaden, Apr 14, 2010.

  1. #1
    I'm curious about what it takes these days to reach a PR5.

    Any ideas on how many backlinks? Roughly, a guesstimate. How many of what value? Or what volume of content? Or which directories?

    One reason that I ask, is that in my niche of landscape and tree service work, about 5 years ago, there were maybe 4 or 5 websites in Oregon and Washington that had a Pagerank 5. Mine was one of them. These days, all those sites dropped to Pagerank 3 or Pagerank 4.

    My guess is because of the numerical increase of websites on the internet. It would make sense that two or three times more websites on the internet, would naturally make many websites of less importance if the inbound links or content remained the same.

    In my case, my content has continually increased, but until a couple of weeks ago, I had not tried to increase reciprocal links or put my site in more directories. Not in 4 or 5 years.

    So I'm wondering what the benchmark is. Without paying for Yahoo's blood-money, about what would it take to get a site to the Pagerank 5 range these days?

    Just FYI - I don't think there is a landscape or tree service in Oregon right now over Pagerank 4. There is one at Pagerank 5, or 6, but only because it's an international company, Davey Tree, with a huge reputation nationally after decades. But for landscape contractors and arborists, #4 is about the ceiling. What I'd like to try, is to bump up to a Pagerank 5, if its feasible.
     
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  2. disco2

    disco2 Peon

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    #2
    May I know why are you putting so much emphasis on PR, is it really that important? If SERP ranking is good, then you should have no worries. Cheers mate.
     
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    larysmith711 Notable Member

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    #3
    I agree with disco2. It's really not that important.

    BUT....... if you want a PR5 get a couple of good PR6 links. 1-3 should do the trick. Or... you could get like 10-20 PR5 links. It really depends on how many links are on the page your link goes on.
     
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  4. mdvaden

    mdvaden Active Member

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    One reason is because I can't find any drawbacks to higher Pagerank.

    Another, is that I find other sites basing who they like to reciprocal link to, on the Pagerank of the other site. So one notch higher, would logically be more inviting to others for reciprocal links. And I have never seen reciprocal links reduce traffic, but just increase.

    I already know that content is important, and see Pagerank 2 sites for the tree care industry commonly do well in the SERPs too.

    Seeing that I already have content, and that reciprocal links have boosted my site past and present, there seems to be no harm I can find in boosting Pagerank. No matter how I approach the subject, it seems to boil down to some kind of increased traffic.

    Back to the importance part ... there was one PR 5 site I exchanged links with this last week. But I was unsure. Because their link policy page mentioned that they exchange with sites that share similar importance or quality as what they have. One gauge of importance that I'm aware of, is the Google Pagerank. Pretty sure that Google even explained that too. The other site did go ahead with the reciprocal link, which was handy.

    I suppose one other way to show some kind of importance, is a screenshot of traffic to a website from Google Analytics. Since that's a numerical record free of opinion.
     
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    mdvaden, Apr 14, 2010 IP
  5. duncan.leung

    duncan.leung Guest

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    #5
    PR is good, but PR + relevance is going to be better. Make sure that you're targeting links that are at least somewhat related to the content that you also have on your site.
     
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  6. China_girl

    China_girl Well-Known Member

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    #6
    You just need ONE PR7 link and make sure that the PR7 site doesnot have many outgoing links.
    OR
    Get atleast 3 or 4 PR6 backlinks and you will easily get PR5.
    I got PR5 for one of my new site which as n/a just before this last update.
     
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  7. adisolutions

    adisolutions Well-Known Member

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    #7
    so blog comments aren't really helpful cause that page has so many outgoing links? in general, how helpful is it if i leave blog comments which includes a link to my page?
     
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  8. China_girl

    China_girl Well-Known Member

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    #8
    Whenever you try to get a backlink for your blog/site (even by do-follow blog comments) you have to first check the number of outgoing links for that particular site. As the number of outgoing links get divided equally and the link juice is divided among those links.
    Its good to comment on do-follow blogs, but the value of those backlinks will not have that effect of what you get from a less outgoing links blog/site.
     
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  9. adisolutions

    adisolutions Well-Known Member

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    #9
    understood - thanks!
     
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  10. eyashwant

    eyashwant Active Member

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    #10
    PR Does not matter, Many waste their time there
     
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  11. espsol

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    #11
    well... as most of other guys... i m having the same opinion, PR is not everything to focus on.. except of this the Alexa Rank is more important for me
     
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  12. Sxperm

    Sxperm Notable Member

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    #12
    If you do want only PR and careless about website ranking - Go get link from high PR pages, looking for high PR with low outbound links, and do not pay attention to relevancy. :) You may get 3-5 of PR7-8 links to gain PR5 for your site. That's it.
     
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  13. SOULZRIPPER

    SOULZRIPPER Well-Known Member

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    #13
    Well I have seen 1 article based crappy blogspot a couple of days back with pr5.

    Backlinks and Good content should do the job for you.
     
    SOULZRIPPER, Apr 15, 2010 IP
  14. mdvaden

    mdvaden Active Member

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    #14

    lol - you are in Berkley

    That's not funny. But it reminded me of the tree sitters down there. I was reading about them not too long ago.
     
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  15. Rahuls

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    Oh..dear it takes hard working of many months sometimes years as well as passions and consistency for a long time for getting PR 5. I think you should not concentrate on PR because it's useless. Better to try to increase your back links because it will really give you a juice of links and will help your site to come up in the search engine.
     
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    #16
    Get lots of PR 5 back links simple as that.
     
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  17. simpseo

    simpseo Active Member

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    #17
    It can take as little as one PR6 link to achieve toolbar PR5. I'm not plucking this figure from thin air, this is fact based on past experimentation. It may not work with just any PR6 link - a lot depends on how many existing links there are on the PR6 page.
     
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  18. jisak13

    jisak13 Peon

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    #18
    if you search google you could find the formula for how pr is achieved,
    just get high pr links to your site, especially from pages with few outbound links
    gluck
     
    jisak13, Apr 16, 2010 IP
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    #19
    I'm currently at a PR5 and lots of high quality links helped me to get there :)

    There are two ways you could get it:

    1) Get a few really high PageRank links (PR6 or PR7+)
    2) Get lots of smaller PageRank links

    I did the second way, but I believe both work.
     
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  20. jisak13

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    #20
    wow very nice, where did u get the links from..?
     
    jisak13, Apr 16, 2010 IP