The goal of USA? (Or at least those in the Europe)

Arnie. -

Sh*t post, and off topic.

There isn't an article in the world that you can use to describe in any way a group of one billion individuals.

Do you have seperate articles for Christians? Jews? Atheists? Blacks? Whites? Cab Drivers?

 

What does the USA have to do with Europe..? This seems to be an attempt to copy my "The Goal of Islam (or at least those in the Middle East)" post, but I added the "(or at least those in the Middle East)" part because I was referring to the Islamic activity in Iraq/Iran/etc.

 

That's my point! USA is in N America, not Europe. Still, I stand by my previous post

 

Tesla just made me very depressed.
I didnt know such ignorance really existed?

 

Poor opening post, poor content, been done to death!

How about this one then.

Why do people kill innocent people.

I don't give a shit what they murder in the name of, I ask a simple question.

Is it acceptable to murder innocent people to further your beliefs'?

I know some dress it up as 'they are no innocent as they support this regime by being born there etc. But it really comes down to that IMO. If we can first agree that it is wrong to murder innocents, and agree that EVERYONE should come out and denounce this violence, and if they do not, then they are sympathisers and should have their travel rights taken away and be watched. Don't care what their religion is, what colour their skin is. If they agree with the murder of innocent people, then they are a danger to civilised society.

 

when a soldier kills an innocent person, do you class that as murder?

 

It's deepend on circumstances.

 

The truth is hard to absorb, I know.
This thread was clearly made to undermine America and Europe. You are one of the soothers and from the same family, speak terrorists.
"Let us live in peace with one another, for Islam is a religion of tolerance and understanding." Then, once Islam has spread throughout the country, the message suddenly changes to "Anyone who stands against the Prophet is worthy of death!"

 

Such as civilians being used as "bombs".

 

You are one the biggest ignorant, don't want to study things and don't want to know the the truth.

 

First make this clear that attacks on 911 were planned and executed by your governments; and as far as the bomb blast in london they were also the links that chains.

Most of the people blamed for 911 or london were not present at the place of incidents and I am sure you don't believe me. I guess you all will be intrested in logical and scientific proofs, then listen and view this documentary, and atleast check it out once before bursting on me:

http://
video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5946593973848835726​

 

As you may know yourself.
This attack was planned for a long time including changing of ID's of the actors. We will see updates about this matter soon, don't worry.

We're not underestimating the venomous abilty of islamic movements.

Can you answer in how the muslims sneak into the west? - Same thing, most of them change their Id's.

So who is a simpleton now?

Your buddy says:
Allah's Apostle said, "I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror, and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand." Abu Huraira added: Allah's Apostle has left the world and now you, people, are bringing out those treasures. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220)

 

Gulp..... another useless topics....

Christ : Defend US
Moslem : Curse US

Is there any interesting topics beside this one?
No more religion war! Peace! Peace!

Angellica2017

 

It's really sad that you compare terrorists who aim innocent people with soldiers who try to hunt these terrorists, killing innocent people by mistake.

 

Why? WHY do you feel the need to drag this simple question into specifics. it is behaviour like yours that is fuelling this hate and war.

I ask AGAIN.

Is it acceptable to murder innocent people to further your beliefs'?

For 'belief' substitute Islam,Christianity, vegentarianism, animal rights Pro life (now that is an odd one isn't it, pro life campaigners killing abortion doctors, surely they must see the contradiction there?)

I ask a simple question, because you see the road to peace does NOT begin with trying to discover the rights and wrongs of the war, he said she said etc. The road to peace begins with far simpler questions, like the one I have asked.

I will reply to your question thus. I asked 'is it acceptable to MURDER INNOCENT's ? You changed that in your question to 'kill innocents. Killing and murdering are totally different things. Would I kill an intruder in my house to protect my family? YES! Would I seek out a man who burgled my house at a later date to murder him? NO! Defence and revenge are different things entirely. Is it acceptable for a soldier to kill an innocent? if there is no intent then of course it is acceptable.

If a child runs out in front of your car from between parked cars and you kill them, does that make YOU a murderer? Of course not, you are as much a victim as the child, you were BOTH involved in the accident, and you Both must suffer in different ways.

Murder and killing are different. WHo is the most guilty. The one who kills 1 or the leader who send out 100's to kill thousands?

How about we start with a simple yes or no question like the one I asked.

 

my answer to your question old welsh guy

there are no circumstances in my opinion in which it is acceptable to shoot/murder an innocent person.

 

There's no reason for us to kill somebody else... We may not kill....
Somebody soul is not ours... its belong to God!

 

I do not know of any religion that suggests you kill others. I know of PEOPLE who preach death destruction and murder in the NAME of religions, but that is people!

If we can all agree that we should not kill each othre, then maybe we have taken a step toward peace.

 

I agree with you to a point.

What if those PEOPLE are leading 70 million other people who blindly believe them and have nuclear arsenal?

 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LkN8xcI28Pg