Nowhere does Islam ENJOIN THE KILLING OF INNOCENTS.. The Quran says

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  1. alimosavi

    alimosavi Banned

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    #21
    this is important notice , Saudis is biggest supporter for Al Qaeda and Al Qaeda is biggest Musli's killer , what is it mean ?

    this is very important too ,
    You know who allow to Saddam to attack Iran ? ( USA and Soviet support Saddam in this war - weapon and satellite maps )
    who sold chemical weapons to Iraq ? ( Germany , UK and ... ) and Saddam kill a lot of Muslims in Iran and Iraq with this weapon ,
    Saddam do certain USA's Plan to stop young Iran revolution
    Why USA don't complete first war in Iraq in 15 years ago , and then Saddam killed 300,000 of shia Muslim that wand revolution ..

    you know Benladan and bosh was partner in oil company before 11 September ! what is the reality of 11 September ?
    I don't see any difference between Al Qaeda and USA ARM , They want kill people .


    1.5 M Muslim killed by assistance between USA arm and Al Qaeda ,
    Is it not new way for Genocide ?
     
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  2. alimosavi

    alimosavi Banned

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    #22
    This is my answer , USA don't want attack to Al Queda , Bush start new Crusade ( he told it himself ) , Al Queda is only one excuse for this purpose
    or USA Leaders don't know how to attack to Al Queda , this behavior is like as buckaroo
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #23
    And there it is. USA and Taliban and Al Queda are all secret partners working to kill Muslims in the name of Islam.


    Put down the hash pipe.

    No.

    Seriously.

    Put it down.

    Step away from the hash pipe.
     
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  4. Revelations-Decoder

    Revelations-Decoder Well-Known Member

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    #24
    Good for you, that's your belief.

    My belief is Mohammaed was the false prophet and Bin Laden is the beast > http://kd-mains.com/osama-bin-laden-revelations.htm

    Where are we to agree and how do you explain how 24 muslim terrosrists got arrested in 2006 in the UK coz I gave another decoding to the Police and Military in the UK 2 days b4 the arrests?

    Oh wait that prophecising the future - jeez I couldn't have done that as Mohammed was the last person to be Seer of anything in the future wasn't he?
     
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  5. ChaosTrivia

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    #25
    About this pathetic "Deen Show"... is it actually been broadcast on TV in Britain? or just on the web?
    The intro music of "peace peace peace" almost killed me laughing.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #26
    It is terrific of bfebrian to clear this up for us, especially in a thread entitled "Islam does not enjoin the killing of innocents".

    The logic appears to work like this.

    1) Islam does not say it is ok to kill innocents.
    2) If you aren't an obedient Muslims are not innocent
    3) Therefore, it is ok to kill pretty much every non-muslim.

    Did I miss anything?
     
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  7. alimosavi

    alimosavi Banned

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    #27

    anybody want kill innocents don't have any religion ( Islam , Judaism , Christianity )
    He is wild , each person that kill innocent is wild ,
    al qaede or UK , US , German arm or ...

    in the date , European and American Arms is biggest killer innocents ,
    the word war 1 , word war 2 , Colonization , Korea , japan nuclear bombing , Iraq , Afghanistan and in the all word ( million of million human killed by Fascist , Communist and freedom soldiers ! )

    Now how is killer innocents ?

    Only one reason case this unrest ( human forget God , Alah , Logic )
     
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  8. bfebrian

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    #28
    now define innocent?
    in your perspective that not innocent deserved to be killed?

    we all not innocent, we guilty on something, we are sinner on something.
    we all guilty, but do we deserved for death penalty?
     
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    #29
    my belief is that you are insane, but that doesn't prove anything.
     
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    #30
    According to Quran only innocents cannot be killed, but you say we all are non-innocent, so according to you and Quran....
     
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    #31
    Irdrupal and zedkay. I'm hoping your business isn't centered around content writing or you are doomed to poverty. Perhaps it is your lack of understanding of the English language makes your posts seem unclear/illogical. Can you explain to me again how the Muslim's are the good guys, and America and Europe are the bad guys? Its just not coming through in a way that makes sense. Maybe if you said it louder (TYPE IT IN ALL CAPS).

    Maybe if you looked at me as a potential recruit it would be easier. I got the Catholics saying I can sin all I want, so long as I say a few "Hail Mary"s. I got the Wikin's talking about earth spirits and orgies in the woods(They are at the top of the list). I got the Jehovah's witnesses telling me I have to knock on doors, I cant celebrate any holidays, and I cant fornicate/adulterate or I will be excommunicated(so far at the bottom of the list). That leaves the Muslims. Sell me on it. I get to beat my wife, hate the jews, complain about educated people, what else? Can I get the 70 virgins up front? What happens if I deflower the virgins and decide jihad is not for me? Will Allah be pissed off? Sell me on the virgins. Why virgins? Virgins are the worst in the sack. Is it the crying? The bleeding? Explain it to me man. I want to believe.
     
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  12. bfebrian

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    #32
    show me than....
     
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    #33
    so you trying to say that all humans are non-innocent , they are killed without any reason , if its thinking is goin on then its rediculous and rubbish to say to that innocent humans killed for JEHAD , which is shows in Quran....
     
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    #34
    I type "islam for beginners" in google and found this in the first page .
    start from beginning, you like a kinder garden children want to learn about calculus.
     
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    #35
    Try read this and this for beginning.
     
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    #36
    In the link you gave it says that its okay to kill anyone who causes "mischief on earth". If being a Jew or a Christian or being a homo or having premarital sex is "mischief on earth" then its okay to kill them right?

    Thanks for supporting my point. :)
     
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    #37
    I know about another and base way for Islam ( shia ) ( the oldest region in Islam )
    http://leader.ir/tree/index.php?catid=38

    I don't have any idea about Vahabiyat because i don't think Vahabiyat ( Talebanism ) is really Islam ... ( if they are Muslim they must not kill a lot of others Muslims )
     
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    #38
    Thanks for the compliment, the feeling is mutal btw.

    @idrupal So if Muslims are not allowed to kill other Muslims does that mean Shia do not recognise Sunni as Muslim and Sunni do not recognise Shia as Muslim then?

    I ask as I have seen on the News over the past 35 years or so many thousands of each being killed by the other and on research find this has been going on, on and off since 632AD.

    So are we to assume Sunni do not accept Shia as Muslim and Shia do not accept Sunni as Muslim so they can justify their killings by saying the other sect are non Muslims?
     
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    #39
    Great source. The Iranian website.

    A selection:
    (which means that Iranis should burn their PC's and replace them with the USA&Israel-free PC. not to mention stop taking medications)

    LOL.
    (Mut'ah is "temporal marriage" in (shia) Islam - a legal framework for prostitution and another mean of abuse of women - where in some cases a father may sell his daughter for a certain amount of time for a nifty sack of $$). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQCw9Nk5YWI (didn't watch it, but I guess this is what I was looking for;) )

    And what determines how much harmful it is? the weather? or maybe last week's NFL results? what dickhead wrote those Q&A?

    but what about what she thinks? ... who cares...;)

    and the idiots from the western left just love to walk around with the stupid Islamic scarf ;) multiculturalism!

    Well... even in Muslim societies where there is no hijab obligation (i.e. Israel), they still keep the second option... (= the most non attractive clothes ever made by mankind....)

    LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

    ;)

    and it goes on and on...
    a really primitive 7th century desert dogma.
     
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  20. bfebrian

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    #40
    define "mischief on earth"
     
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