Nowhere does Islam ENJOIN THE KILLING OF INNOCENTS.. The Quran says

"Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress limits. God does not love transgressors." (Quran 2:190)

"If they seek peace, then seek you peace. And trust in God for He is the One that heareth and knoweth all things." (Quran 8:61)

 

A religion with full of peace,


Very nice sharing from Quran

 

Very nice Samser. I really do appreciate the post. Now when I see you condemn specific acts of violence against innocents, like 9-11, and Muslim clerics who promote them, like Dr. Naik, I will know you are committed to your beliefs.

 

Who do not believe in d peace and they only want to do violence in the society, and want to appear in common people's lives with terror , with a named JEHAD by their god is all rubbish , JEHAD is not says that you do terror activities against innocent people and harm them....so know the real QURAN...wt it want to say.........

 

Nowhere does Islam ENJOIN THE KILLING OF INNOCENTS.. the Quran says.

This means you believe that either:
1) women who have sex outside of marriage, gays, people who insult the prophet, people who decide to leave Islam, pepole who decide to marry non Muslims - are not innocents.
or
2) the countries such as Iran and Saudi Arabi where these "crimes" are punishable by death - are not Muslim countries.

Which one of the two?

 

Islam is not what things that told by Vahabiat ( Talibanism )

Islam is very very different about it ..

Are you know 99% of people killed by Al Qaeda are Muslim ( shia ) ! ?

Some Quran :I use google tranlator

what is jahad :

«أُذِنَ لِلَّذِينَ يُقاتَلُونَ بِأَنَّهُمْ ظُلِمُوا ÙˆÙŽ إِنَّ اللّهَ عَلى‏ نَصْرِهِمْ لَقَدِيرٌ * الَّذِينَ أُخْرِجُوا مِنْ دِيارِهِمْ بِغَيْرِ حَقٍّ إِلّا أَنْ يَقُولُوا رَبُّنَا اللّهُ»(24)​

So for those who fight because they did wrong and that God the power to the victory * who were driven from their homes unjustly only because they believe in God

قاتِلُوا فِي سَبِيلِ اللّهِ الَّذِينَ يُقاتِلُونَكُمْ ÙˆÙŽ لا تَعْتَدُوا إِنَّ اللّهَ لا يُحِبُّ الْمُعْتَدِينَ ​

Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you and do not transgress Allah loveth not aggressors

ÙˆÙŽ إِنْ طائِفَتانِ مِنَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ اقْتَتَلُوا فَأَصْلِحُوا بَيْنَهُما فَإِنْ بَغَتْ إِحْداهُما عَلَى الْأُخْرى‏ فَقاتِلُوا الَّتِي تَبْغِي حَتَّى تَفِي‏ءَ إِلى‏ أَمْرِ اللّهِ ​

And that two of the faithful the two battled Vosalhawwa Bgt one or the other: So, which do meet the right to have recourse to the command of Allah

ÙˆÙŽ لَوْ لا دَفْعُ اللّهِ النّاسَ بَعْضَهُمْ بِبَعْضٍ لَفَسَدَتِ الْأَرْضُ ÙˆÙŽ لكِنَّ اللّهَ ذُو فَضْلٍ عَلَى الْعالَمِينَ​

And if God does not pay people to each other, truly the earth, but Allah is the Lord of bounty to the worlds

ÙˆÙŽ لَوْ لا دَفْعُ اللّهِ النّاسَ بَعْضَهُمْ بِبَعْضٍ لَهُدِّمَتْ صَوامِعُ ÙˆÙŽ بِيَعٌ ÙˆÙŽ صَلَواتٌ ÙˆÙŽ مَساجِدُ يُذْكَرُ فِيهَا اسْمُ اللّهِ كَثِيراً ÙˆÙŽ لَيَنْصُرَنَّ اللّهُ مَنْ يَنْصُرُهُ إِنَّ اللّهَ لَقَوِيٌّ عَزِيزٌ​

And if God does not pay people to each other and selling the silos were demolished and mosques and prayers, stating the name of God too much, Inasrn God of victory for Allah is Strong, Almighty

لا إِكْراهَ فِي الدِّينِ قَدْ تَبَيَّنَ الرُّشْدُ مِنَ الْغَيِّ​

There is no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error

ÙˆÙŽ إِنْ جَنَحُوا لِلسَّلْمِ فَاجْنَحْ لَها ÙˆÙŽ تَوَكَّلْ عَلَى اللّهِ إِنَّهُ هُوَ السَّمِيعُ الْعَلِيمُ​

And if they incline to peace, incline, and trust in God for He is the Hearer, the Knower

وَإِنْ أَحَدٌ مِنْ الْمُشْرِكِينَ اسْتَجَارَكَ فَأَجِرْهُ حَتَّى يَسْمَعَ كَلَامَ اللَّهِ ثُمَّ أَبْلِغْهُ مَأْمَنَهُ​

One of the pagans, to hear the Word of God and then grant him protection




Now what you think about really islam , Is Al Qaeda are Muslim ? No He isn't Muslim , the are Islam's Enemy !

 

for my standing:
women who have sex outside of marriage - both men and women - yes
gays - yes
people who insult the prophet - insult anyone - yes
people who decide to leave Islam - yes
pepole who decide to marry non Muslims - men can marry non muslim as long they are 'people of the book'

care to define muslim countries?
care to show me the verses in Quran where those 'crimes' are punishable by death?

 

When you are in a Muslim country, you have to follow its rules, and BTW, when some one become Muslim he has to obey what Allah said through Prophet PBUH

 

No offence, but but how do you know that Muhammad was a messenger of Allah? Just because he said so? Or did the person(s) who wrote Quran? How do you know that they didn't make it up?

 

[video=youtube;LswIOr4nA5I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LswIOr4nA5I[/video]

Beside this, its my Faith that Muhammad (PBUH) was the last messenger of Allah,

 

yes as for innocent or yes as for non-innocent?

 

I am glad that the one and only true God is nothing like the alah of mohamud.

 

So what you are saying is that the US is bombing the crap out of the enemies of Islam and that all Muslims should support our cause? Glad to hear it.

 

No , USA don't bombing Benladan any time because USA government need to he and it's group ( USA Leaders need to Benladan for extend the world war )
USA arm only kill sample people in Iraq and Afghanistan ,
Why usa not break it's relation to Kingdom of Saudi Arabia ? ( this country is biggest supporter for Al Qaeda )

Why USA attack to Iraq ? (Al Qaeda not there in Iraq in last )

This is sample , USA attack to Iraq and other country only to limit Iran and earn money ( weaponry and oil companies )

USA government lie and lie more and more , '
what time we find it , is we must listen to this big lies like as a stupid man ?

 

This might be helpful.

 

yes they are not innocent.
how about my questions?

 

I agree, US shouldn't support an oppressive regime like the Saudis. There are probably many answers as to why we do, but the top two obvious ones that come to mind are:

a) Protection of American interests by having leverage into the oil cartel
b) Leverage against other oppressive regimes in the region, namely Iran. One could call it the lesser of two evils, though I suspect we(Americans) have more in common with the Iranian people than we do with the Saudis.

No, Saddam was there. Call it Bush Jr. fixing Bush Sr./Collin Powell's mistakes. Why did Iraq attack Kuwait? Why did Iraq attack Iran? Why did Iran attack Iraq? Why do Pakistan and India feud?

You are very confused. First you say Al Queda and Taliban are not Muslims, and are the enemies of Islam. I point out we are fighting Al Queda and the Taliban so "real" Muslims should be allies of the US. Then you say the USA is bad because... why? Get your story straight. Either Muslims should join the fight against Al Queda and Taliban, or they should join the fight against he enemy of Islam (USA?), or they should remain quiet on the sideline. Why don't you make it clear where you really stand.

Why do Muslims pay all this lip service to the greatness of Islam, but every time you point out a state that tries to apply the rules of Islam, they claim it doesn't accurately reflect Islam. They are like Democrats talking up the greatness of socialism......

 

tnx .. try to learn

 

Muslim countries = countries in which the official (and usually) sole religion is Islam, per their own definition.

There are no such verses. but that doesn't matter. This is what I try to tell you jihadists. that what the quran says does not matter at all, because the quran says absolutely nothing. All that matters is what his followers THINK it says. Each one with his own interpretation of god's words.

In Iran for example, these "crimes" are punishable by death.

I fell very sorry for you and your family and your people if you think that leaving Islam or being gay are criminal,
and thank god (in which I don't believe) for the fortune of living in a far better place and in a far superior culture.

 

You are right bfebrian has to answer it.