Belgium the latest Country to ban the full Burkha (Burga - Burka) "perhaps" The first European Country to officially fall in line with Tunisia, Turkey and Egyypt's bans on the wearing of the full Burkha (Burga - Burka) could soon be imminent. First possible official euro ban on Burkha (Burga) imminent France, Switzerland and Italy as well as others are all said to be debating the same and set to follow suit on laws against the wearing of the Burkha (Burga - Burka) and the rumours are other Countries are also due to follow suit to. What's your take?
I applause the banning of the Burkha. Now one should be allowed wearing it especially when they fly. How is everyone suppose to know who is really behind the robe when you cant see anything. How can you possibly identify someone if you don't see nothing. Just like the non Muslims have to follow rules and the sharia lows in Muslims countries the Muslim population have to follow the rules of the non Muslim country that they live in.
I guess you mean when they fly on an aeroplane and not on a flying carpet or broomstick in that reference to "when they fly" klardi? (sorry couldn't resist that little tongue in cheek joke there!)
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In another thread vebtools says they are not told to where the Burkha in the Quran (which I think he may be wrong on as I am sure I read a Surah that tells women to be covered in [ublic) but if they wear it they are safe from getting raped. You may have all seen the thread as I made a post in answerin if he realised what he had just said.
I think that burkha are old-fashioned and not necessary your more progressive countries, will soon not allow them best regards
Respect is earned through being impressed by something and the actions of someone or some people or is something that is a mutual thing. Not a right no matter what and especially not when death sentences and the likes are declared on anyone not "submitting" to something. Why should anyone have to respect a religion whose book rants on about killing Jews and Christians and Karffir's? Where is the mutual respect that earns the respect back?
I wish one day you will provide the reference of those Quran words which are your owns, or some one who is washing your brain
Says the guy who says women who don't wear Burkha's are fair game for rape. That came from you not the Quran btw in another thread. These texts are on every Islamiic site with English translations of the Quran - you don't need the English translation though so you can read it for yourself in whatever language you read it in and as you know it so well you will know which parts it says these things in and how many times it is repeated. One example for you > 2:190 Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors. Waqatiloo fee sabeeli Allahiallatheena yuqatiloonakum wala taAAtadooinna Allaha la yuhibbu almuAAtadeena 2:191 And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith. Waoqtuloohum haythuthaqiftumoohum waakhrijoohum min haythu akhrajookum waalfitnatuashaddu mina alqatli wala tuqatiloohum AAindaalmasjidi alharami hatta yuqatilookumfeehi fa-in qatalookum faoqtuloohum kathalikajazao alkafireena
Finally you shared some thing, (Which is not relevant to topic) I know when you guys had nothing to say, you guys start changing the topic, but who cares? The ayaat you provide had ans or your question. fight you there; but if they fight you and you mention only Ayaat 192, let me tell you what Allah says after that 2:192 But if they desist, God is forgiving and kind. 2:194 if you are oppressed, oppress those who oppress you to the same degree, and fear God, and know that God is with those who are pious and follow the right path. I know those people who brain wash yoursm use Quran ayaat but not complete and not the ayaat before and after.
Finally - what are you on about I showed you some Surahs in at least two other threads. I couldn't care if it is complete or not, it came from an Islamic website. Dude recenly you said in another thread those not wearing Burkhas are fair game for rape so you have no moral highground. That is immoral and a rather dangerous way of thinking on your part.
Give me the lnk of my post, so i can check why i said this, there would be a reason and Yeah Islam does not force a lady to wear a Burqa, Hijaab would be enough like Chiristan and Jews women wear well, i know lot of people who hate Islam did this, just show one ayaat to innocent people so he/she start heating Islam, its better when some one again did with you just conform from Quran and read the ayaat before and after of that ayaat
You find it vebtools I have better things to do than finding the crazy statements you make about Burkhas and the wearing of means women can't get raped. I think you have shown your true colours repeatedly to many of us recently and shown what you support and what you are willing to condemn or not. Where I come from women whether Christian or Jew or whatever rarely wear anything like you say, that is an outdated fashion of the current climate of the times they came from.
here we go http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1752644&p=13939502#post13939502 and yeah Quran does not says wear Burqa and the word "Burqa" is not mentioned any where, its their own choice
Yes but we don't want the Burkha is the point. It is going to end up banned bit by bit in most Countries outside Islamic Sharia Countires eventually as it is a security risk and people find it offensive. You lie when you say it is their choice. The choice was taken from them by the way of thinking that you yourself mentioned where not wearing them means they are fair game for rape. That is not free choice, that is forced by environment. Sure some may choose for their own reasons not connected to fear of getting raped. Many do not though!
Its look like women has no right in other countries, thats your imagination (you guys had lot of imagination) that Islam forcing women to warn Burqa, Islam does not force any woman to wear burqa at all, its their own choice, Quran clearly says: "There is no compulsion in religion" (2:256) if you are talking about environment, then let me know why American, Indian, British, Belgium Muslim wear it? its not environment, its her own choice. who force an American, Indian, British, Belgium etc Muslim women to wear it?