What if Muhammad ibn ‘Abdullāh was never born?

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What if Muhammad ibn ‘Abdullāh was never born?

  1. World would have been way better off!

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  2. I can't Imagine a world without Muhammad, he was such a paragon of integrity!!

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  1. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #21
    It's a two way street. You see Muslims coming into discussions about American politics entering foreign policy as an issue sidetracking it into Islam. So people from the West decide to ask questions we really have. I believe the OP is interested in some ways how the belief impacts international politics. And it also is on my mind whether there is a real solution.

    It has to do with scriptures within the Quaran that have to do with violent solutions rather than peaceful problem solving and how can you blame someone when he is asking questions about this as the international issues are not just America and Islam, but also countries like India?

    Transparency is important when looking for solutions. Lying, arguing, threatening etc. are not problem solving and neither is asking people to stop discussing it.
     
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    safa786 Active Member

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    #22
    please dont underestimate muslims by the deeds of people who may have muslim names they are not muslims they may have born in islam family.Islam never allow to kill people or hate other religions.Islam always says to respect other religions.Do you know onething that what our prophet said to people caught in war that "Not kill them but allow them to teach (they were illeterate people)" write and read which is indeed a good deed.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #23
    LOL. :D

    This is funny coming from some one who believes in every kind of BS that Bush was selling. :rolleyes:
     
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    #24
    I doubt how many (Non-Muslim) will hear your words here.
     
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    Helvetii Notable Member

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    #25
    If you (or anyone) can qoute verses from the Quran which say so then I'll believe you. Can't give you more latitude than that.
     
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    nagender Active Member

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    #26
    Why Do Muslims Execute Innocent People?

    I ain't pointing to all Muslims.

    I voted to "World would have been way better off"
     
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    #29
    I am not like those who call terrorist to every one, on behalf of their religion or name ;)
     
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    #30
    yes, you said the truth.Dont blame religion or prophet because of the deeds of people.
     
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    #31
    When Dr. Naik said "call me a terrorist", it was in reference to 9-11. In other words, while he disputed Osama Bin Laden actually did 9-11, he said if whoever did 9-11 is a terrorist, he wants to be a terrorist too.

    How many ways can one to interpret the words of your hero? Not too many I'm guessing.
     
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    #32
    Who is Naik,He is not our hero .We muslims have only one hero who is prohet muhammed (sas)
     
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    #33
    I think Islam comes from word of Taslim means submission (to God).
     
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    #34
    And we all know what happens to those who don't "submit"
     
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    Helvetii
    I guess many religion appeared during human lifetime and most of them disappeared or just contain small number of people now, so guess your title in above the thread is more concern of if Islam wasn't spread in vast area or wasn't violate/offensive religion? because not just Muhammad revealed a religion, also some other people in Arabia claimed they were prophet, one of them was "Musilemeh Kazab" who showed himself when Mohammad died and in several fights he defeated Muslims in Arabia.

    I guess for success of a religion, a chain of incidents must be happen and lost in anyone could destroy it or prevent it from spread. if you read Christian history will find the same I guess.
    if Rome didn't accept Christianity has it chance to spread in such vast area?
    if Turks Captured Vienna and then Europe in 500 years ago then maybe no conflict between Muslim and Christianity now we have? lol
     
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    #36
    you can check on internet,.. Muhammad is The Best Leader,.. he is number #1. people of Israel and US already admit that
    for vote: if there is no Muhammad,....would be No WORLD....and there's no respect with other,.. you kill you mother who born you or maybe you raped her,...

    Greetz
     
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    #37
    Interesting considering the fact that with islam comes the murder of mothers, daughters, sons, fathers, or anyone stupid enough to strap a bomb vest on.
     
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    #38
    sorry, but I typed "the best leader in the world" and number 1 (according to "the internet") is Lady Gaga http://www.google.com/search?q=The+Best+Leader+in+the+world&btnG=Search&hl=en&sa=2
     
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    #39
    Lady Gaga! lol
    maybe during her leadership world become better place for living! seems Robyreis was right! lol
    just wonder how could her fans attendant of TIME!?
    will see who is her vice.
    [​IMG]
     
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    #40
    if you talk about Bomb, well 11/9 tragedy it's more inside people,... why..??? there is no change Camera is in right position with right angle when the plane crash the building..think about that, some people on US admit that

    lol..... not that what I mean, here the url http://www.adherents.com/adh_influ.html and here http://www.amaana.org/ismailim.html
     
    robyries, Apr 17, 2010 IP