I miss good old DP days, before infractions..When poster like this got a ban straight away.... Then stop paarticipating in public forums.. go and live in a cave... Ohh yeah.. everyone has rights to express his opinion.. this is a free world... Not Iran... And why exactly should we have respect for your religion, BTW?? Exactly.. and it is sick...
Would it be rude to say: WHO F*%$ING CARES? I don't care if Jesus is in Islam, I don't care if Jesus eats green eggs and ham, I don't care if you believe in Jesus/Buddah/God/Mohammad and you shouldn't care that I know that they are only storybook characters. Am I the only one that gets annoyed by stupid religious conversations, on a WEBMASTER FORUM, that go nowhere?! Sorry, couldn't resist...I will try harder in the future. I swear...
Brother Gtech I have given enough points to prove that Prophet Muhammad's marriage to Aisha was legal. It may look strange now that our beloved Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) married a 9 years old girl but if you would have born at that time it is normal.There were many anti-Muhammad(PBUH) people that time who were not leaving even a single chance to degrade his image but even they never brought his topic in public to humilate prophet Muhammad(PBUH) as it was normal trend there. Today, anyone under 16 years old is considered a "child", a baby still under his mommy's and daddy's care. Back then on the other hand, people who reached the age of 15 were considered wise and very mature. Let me share this Islamic story with you: There is a famous Islamic figure called "Osama bin Zayd (or Zaid)". I read that this man was once a leader or one of the leaders of the Muslims who met the Roman Christians. He defeated them. He was only 16 to 18 years old. So the point is, Aisha, peace be upon her, might look as child to you, but back then she certainly was considered as "woman" who was qualified for marriage. Anyways we muslims know now that girls attain their puberty late and you will never see any muslim(forget one or two exceptions) marrying a 9 years old girl because time has changed a lot. brothers but now a days you will see non muslims having sex with children(lolita sex) below 10 years of age . If you search google for child porn or lolita sex you will get the answer yourself. SunLove Can you throw some light on this:--- 1..Fathers can sell their daughters as slave girls to other men in the Bible: Exodus 21:7-11 7. "If a man sells his daughter as a female slave, she is not to go free as the male slaves do. 8. "If she is displeasing in the eyes of her master who designated her for himself, then he shall let her be redeemed. He does not have authority to sell her to a foreign people because of his unfairness to her. 9. "If he designates her for his son [Note: "his son" means that the master is either her father's age or even much older!], he shall deal with her according to the custom of daughters. 10. "If he takes to himself another woman, he may not reduce her food, her clothing, or her conjugal rights. 11. "If he will not do these three things for her, then she shall go out for nothing, without payment of money. First of all, did the daughter have any choice to be sold off by her father, married off by her master to either himself or his son? No! Also, the fact that the master can either marry her or marry her off to his son, means that MOST LIKELY, SHE IS HIS DAUGHTER'S AGE and younger than his son!! So he's probably at least 30+ years older than her. Yet, he himself (her father's age or even MUCH older) can marry her. 2..Fathers sticking their fingers into their daughters in the Bible: Let us look at the following Verses in the Bible: "If a man takes a wife and, after laying with her, dislikes her and slanders her and gives her a bad name, saying, 'I married this woman but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity,' then the girl's father and mother shall bring proof [how do you think they would do that?] that she was a virgin to the town elders at the gate. The girl's father will say to the elders, 'I gave my daughter in marriage to this man, but he dislikes her. Now he has slandered her and said, 'I did not find your daughter to be a virgin.' But here is the proof of my daughter's virginity.' Then her parents shall display the cloth [the father would literally stick his two fingers covered with a piece of cloth into his daughter's vagina before she gets married and keep that bloody cloth for as long as his daughter is married] with before the elders of the town, and the elders shall take the man and punish him. (From the NIV Bible, Deuteronomy 22:13-18)" Here is a more clear translation from Hebrew Resources: "The girl's father and mother shall produce the evidence of the girl's virginity before the elders of the town at the gate. And the girl's father shall say to the elders, "I gave this man my daughter to wife, but he had taken an aversion to her; so he has made up charges, saying, 'I did not find your daughter a virgin.' But here is the evidence of my daughter's virginity!" And they shall spread out the cloth before the elders of the town. (From the New JPS translation, Deuteronomy 22:15-17)" 3...Child brides as young as 8 (eight) were common among the Byzantine emperors and nobility! 4.3-year old slave girls were forced into sex under the Mosaic Law in the Bible
name of Jesus counted more frequently than another prophet in Koran... Cause Jesus is the only one "Holy Spirit", Not Gabriel (Djibril) or Ahmad (Mohammed). Payment for SIN is Death... then who can save us from sin? The Holy One... Elohim - Adonai - Jesus - Christ - Holy Spirit... Peace Angel of Adsense
Sister Angellica Prophet Moses(PBUH) name is mentioned more times than anyone's name in holy Quran. Does it mean Moses(PBUH) was the only true messanger of God and rest were false.No It means more was written about him. As simple as that.We all muslims respect Jesus(PBUH) and believe he was one of the beloved prophets of God.We say Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) was the last messanger of God. Their is one misunderstanding that he founded religon Islam.He was not sent down by God to start his own religion but to preach the truth that worship only one Almighty God and agree that Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) was the last messanger of God.Thus Islam can be said as a universal religion which was for whole of mankind and not confined to people of Arabia. Payment for sin is not death as death is a natural phenomen which all living soul will experience on earth according to Quran.Payement for sins is Hell where you will be punished for your sins and not even Jesus can save you if you have sinned a lot in your life.
How much is too much sin then? How much is murder worth? Sorry Jesus wasn't just a prophet, but much much more. Thank goodness.
"not even Jesus can save you if you have sinned a lot in your life." Well then you obviously don't believe in the same Jesus so stop claiming you do. No wonder Muslims can't stop saying "PBUH." They're deathly afraid of hell because they have no saviour but themselves. They have to make sure they get the pointless things taken care of so that maybe the bigger things will be overlooked. The pharisees had that problem too. According to the oxford dictionary Mary was 12. But nobody actually knows. I don't know where they got that from. Probably because "virgin" can be interpreted as "young girl." "Young" can mean a wide range of ages and we interpret it as "virgin" so no indication of her age was given. Girls don't automatically lose their virginity after the age of 12. It's documented and proven that Mr M was a pedophile. The age of Mary is just somebody's guess.
Btw. how do they know when he consumated the "marriage"? For all we know, that sicko may have molested her at age 6 and just not told anyone.
The Koran’s 164 Jihad Verses: K 002:178-179, 190-191, 193-194, 216-218, 244; 003:121-126, 140-143, 146, 152-158, 165-167,169, 172-173, 195; 004:071-072, 074-077, 084, 089-091, 094-095,100-104; 005:033, 035, 082; 008:001, 005, 007, 009-010, 012, 015-017, 039-048,057-060, 065-075; 009:005, 012-014, 016, 019-020, 024-026, 029,036, 038-039, 041, 044, 052, 073, 081, 083,086, 088, 092, 111, 120, 122-123; 016:110; 022:039, 058, 078; 024:053, 055; 025:052; 029:006, 069; 033:015, 018, 020, 023, 025-027, 050; 042:039; 047:004, 020, 035; 048:015-024; 049:015; 059:002, 005-008, 014; 060:009; 061:004, 011, 013; 063:004; 064:014; 066:009; 073:020; 076:008 TERROR According to the most authoritative traditions of Islam, Muhammad understood terror to be one of God's distinctives favors upon him, making him superior to other prophets. Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror, and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand." Abu Huraira added: Allah's Apostle has left the world and now you, people, are bringing out those treasures. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220) The Qur'an declares: Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority: their abode will be the Fire: And evil is the home of the wrong-doers! (3:151) Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them." This because they contended against Allah and His Messenger: If any contend against Allah and His Messenger, Allah is strict in punishment. (8:12-13) Let not the unbelievers think that they can get the better (of the godly): they will never frustrate (them). Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly. (8:59-60) And Allah turned back the Unbelievers for (all) their fury: no advantage did they gain; and enough is Allah for the believers in their fight. And Allah is full of Strength, able to enforce His Will. And those of the People of the Book who aided them - Allah did take them down from their strongholds and cast terror into their hearts. (So that) some ye slew, and some ye made prisoners. And He made you heirs of their lands, their houses, and their goods, and of a land which ye had not frequented (before). And Allah has power over all things. (33:25-27) It is He Who got out the Unbelievers among the People of the Book from their homes at the first gathering (of the forces). Little did ye think that they would get out: And they thought that their fortresses would defend them from Allah! But the (Wrath of) Allah came to them from quarters from which they little expected (it), and cast terror into their hearts, so that they destroyed their dwellings by their own hands and the hands of the Believers, take warning, then, O ye with eyes (to see)! (59:2) That is because they resisted Allah and His Messenger: And if any one resists Allah, verily, Allah is severe in punishment. (59:4) Of a truth ye are stronger (than they) because of the terror in their hearts, (sent) by Allah. This is because they are men devoid of understanding. (59:13) Reading those verses it becomes clear that even though it is Allah who casts the terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, he does so by the action of the Muslims: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them ... Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies ... some ye slew, and some ye made prisoners ... destroyed their dwellings by the hands of the Believers. Allah commands deeds of terror by the believers against the unbelievers as the means of creating the emotion of terror in their hearts. The only reason needed for action is that "they resisted Allah and His Messenger". Such an approach to "conflict management" is nothing to be ashamed about according to Islamic understanding, but it is a basis for pride. It is one reason for the superiority of Muhammad over all other prophets. See the section http://answering-islam.org/Terrorism/index.html for detailed discussions on various aspects of this issue.
moq writes: "The Christians boast about the Gospels according to St. Matthew, according to St. Mark, according to St. Luke and according to St. John, but there is not a single Gospel "according" to (St.) Jesus himself!" But this is utterly ridiculous. Just insanely so. Correct me if I am wrong but did Mohammed write the Koran or did Allah? I don;t mean who muslims say inspired the Koran, I mean from whose lips did the words come from? In fact, if memory serves me, it wasn't even Mohammed who wrote down the words, he just uttered them. Someone else did the writing. Muslims want us to accept the fact that Allah is God and therefore whatever came from the mouth of the child molester Mohammed is the PROVEN word of God. A-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!! Are they actually nuts??? Things to make ones skin crawl when considering Mohammed as a messenger of God: 1. He liked to war. 2. He liked to kill. 3. He liked little girls for sexual gratification. Remember the reason the actual words of the Holy Bible change is because it is the Living Word. The Living Word of the Living God. Not a dead thing written in stone. Mohammed was a false prophet and one need only follow his antics of blood and rapine to see this. Jesus is the true Light, the true Way, Lamb of God, Saviour and Messiah Amen
mohammads writer turned his back to him and left islam though. Follow him!!! - and repent - You who are still yet muslims before its too late.
Blogmaster I gave lots of proofs to prove that Prophet Muhammad's marriage was legal and accepted by Aisha's parents.When you dont know what to say why are you posting what ever is coming in your mind. What will you say about this: Can you give proofs that these are wrong-- X-Rated Pornography in the Bible? Some Christians claim that the praised graphical pornography in the Bible is actually a conversation between a husband and his wife. They know well thatclaiming otherwise would bring total shame to the gospel of porn, becauseof the (literally) x-rated and low-life graphical pornography. There is ample evidence that prove their claim to be bogus and desperate. Let us look at this example from the many below: Song of Songs 8:1-3 "If only you were to me like a brother, who was nursed at my mother's breasts! Then, if I found you outside, I would kiss you, and no one would despise me. I would lead you and bring you to my mother's house-- she who has taught me. I would give you spiced wine to drink [i.e., her vagina's semen!], the nectar of my pomegranates. His left arm is under my head and his right arm embraces me." She wished if he was her brother so that she wouldn't have to take him home in secret. Now if he was truly her husband, then what would prompt her to wish that he was her brother? Were husbands back then not allowed to live with their wives? If so, how did they then consummate and have children and raise generations and societies? Were they allowed to live with each others for a while? The obvious answer, that only the ashamed people from the Jews and Christians would deny, is that the "lover" was NOT her husband, and she was not his wife. Further more, according to "Sex in the Bible" documentary film, the two were "a maiden (virgin) and her lover" and not husband and wife. Listen to this for yourself. "maiden" means virgin; an unmarried woman; a single girl, etc... From http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=maiden%20: 1. 1. An unmarried girl or woman. 2. A virgin. 2. A machine resembling the guillotine, used in Scotland in the 16th and 17th centuries to behead criminals. 3. Sports. 1. A racehorse that has never won a race. 2. A maiden over. The bottom line is: The graphical pornography in the gospel of porn (the bible) is quite devastating and unjustifiable. The book's followers have to literally resort to lying in order to minimize the moral damage and denigration that this corrupt book teaches and causes. 2..The Bible in numerous places teaches us about women's breasts and talks about them at the same time it is talking about sexual fantasies and intercourse. Comparing the sister's breasts to the size of the towers: Let us look at the following verses: "We have a young sister, and her breasts are not yet grown. What shall we do for our sister for the day she is spoken for? (Song of Songs 8:8)" and later about the sister....."I am a wall, and my breasts are like towers. Thus I have become in his eyes like one bringing contentment. (Song of Songs 8:10)" Let us look at Song of Songs 4:5 "Your two breasts are like two fawns, like twin fawns of a gazelle that browse among the lilies." Let us look at Song of Songs 1:13 "My lover is to me a sachet of myrrh resting between my breasts." Praising the bed that they had sex on: Let us look at Song of Songs 1:16 "How handsome you are, my lover! Oh, how charming! And our bed is verdant" Let us look at Song of Songs 1:2-4 "Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth-- for your love is more delightful than wine. Pleasing is the fragrance of your perfumes; your name is like perfume poured out. No wonder the maidens love you! Take me away with you--let us hurry! Let the king bring me into his chambers. We rejoice and delight in you; we will praise your love (i.e., semen) more than wine. How right they are to adore you!" I don't think this would be appropriate for a kid under 18 to read. Also, I don't think it is appropriate to have such open sexuality in a divine book anyway. His right arm sexually feeling her body: Let us look at Song of Songs 2:6 "His left arm is under my head, and his right arm embraces me." 3.His sister's vagina tastes like "wine": "How beautiful your sandaled feet, O prince's daughter! Your graceful legs are like jewels, the work of a craftsman's hands. Your navel is a rounded goblet that never lacks blended wine. Your waist is a mound of wheat encircled by lilies. Your breasts are like two fawns, twins of a gazelle. Your neck is like an ivory tower. Your eyes are the pools of Heshbon by the gate of Bath Rabbi. ....... I said 'I will climb the palm tree; I will take hold of its fruit.' May your breasts be like the clusters of the vine, the fragrance of your breath like apples, and your mouth like the best wine. (The NIV Bible, Song of Songs 7:1-4, 8-9)" According to the documentary film "Sex in the Bible" on A&E TV Station, the Hebrew translation to "Your naval" is referring to the woman's VAGINA. This was sent by my dear brother in Islam Mike who embraced Islam just recently; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him. Even though she may not be his biological sister, but calling her a "sister" in a pornographic and sick situation as shown in details below is not proper, and may suggest that the sick pervert would fantasize about his biological sister if he had one. Sleeping with his sister: Let us look at Song of Songs 5:4 "I slept but my heart was awake. Listen! My lover is knocking: 'Open to me, my sister, my darling, my dove, my flawless one. My head is drenched with dew, my hair with the dampness of the night.' I have taken off my robe (i.e., he showed his penis to her. Underwears didn't exist back then!) must I put it on again? I have washed my feet, must I soil them again? My lover thrust his hand through the latch-opening; my heart began to pound for him." What a disgusting way for someone to talk so pervertly about his sister like that!!. Let us look at Song of Songs 5:8 "O daughters of Jerusalem, I charge you-- if you find my lover, what will you tell him? Tell him I am faint with love." Teaching women to be sexually too open.Listen to the narration: http://www.answering-islam.com/vagina_wine.wav by Carole Fountaine Professor of Biblical Studies Andover-Newton Theological School If you have a very attractive brother, please don't follow the gospel of porn's advise and to try to sleep with him in bed!! Ok? What more pornography and sick trash do you want? Even today's internet pornography have not yet gone down to the filthy level of brothers and sisters sleeping with each others. That's how sick and pervert the changed Bible really is and not the one which was revealed by Prophet Jesus(PBUH). The sex and lust were illegal! The bottom here is that the bible sings praises for illegal sex (fornication and adultery), lust and sexually immoral life style! And even if they were, which they clearly weren't, this still doesn't justify a husband speaking in such a pornographic way about his wife and a wife about her husband. There is absolutely no morality in this pornographic book! All it teaches is how to be lustful, loose and favor whoredom; like the Christians world-wide need any more of that! Look at their societies world-wide, you would see them notorious in sex without marriage, boyfriend-girlfriend relationships, alcohol, drugs, bikinis on beaches where 99% of the women's bodies are totally exposed, pornography all over the internet, teenagers losing their virginities are early years, and much more. Is this the moral code that we must follow? The entire Bible is corrupted anyway according to its Theologians! We must know that the Bible can not be trusted. Let us look at what the Theologians and Historians of the NIV Bible wrote about the Book of Song of Songs: About the book of Song of Songs: "Verse 1 appears to ascribe authorship to Solomon. Solomon is referred to seven times, and several verses speak of the 'king', but whether he was the author remains an open question. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 997)" As we clearly see, no one knows who wrote the porn-full book of Song of Songs. How can you claim that the books were indeed all revealed by GOD Almighty? If you're not sure, and you still insist on your claim, then you are committing a crime against GOD Almighty's Revelations. (www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm) The NIV Bible Theologians and Historians also commented on other books of the Bible to be corrupted by the scribes: "...portions of the book were probably added by scribes or editors from later periods of Israel's history... (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 183)" The Jewish scribes had very badly corrupted the Bible and turned it into a big lie. That is why GOD Almighty said: "`How can you say, "We [the Jews] are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?' (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)" "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)" In either translation above, we clearly see that the Bible has too many narrated stories and man-made cultural laws that were inserted into it that were not Divine Revelations from GOD Almighty. It's quite obvious that the Bible is more like a man made cultural book than a divine book that is meant to be for all times and all places. Anyway, the Bible was not even written by its original authors. That is why you see things such as "And Moses went up to the mountain...." instead of "And I [Moses] went up to the mountain....", or "And Jesus said to Matthew...." instead of "And Jesus said to me [Matthew]...." Most of the Books and Gospels of the Bible were written by third party people that were not even chosen by GOD, which makes the Bible just a cultural history book rather than a divine book from GOD Almighty King David, the Begotten Son of GOD and X-Rated Pornography: I don't believe that King David did any of this. I proved below that the Books that claim this about King David are corrupted and unreliable and full of man-made doubts and lies. David watches a women bathe, likes what he sees, and "goes in unto her." Let us look at 2 Samuel 11:2-4 "One evening David got up from his bed and walked around on the roof of the palace. From the roof he saw a woman bathing. The woman was very beautiful, and David sent someone to find out about her. The man said, 'Isn't this Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam and the wife of Uriah the Hittite?' Then David sent messengers to get her. She came to him, and he slept with her. (She had purified herself from her uncleanness.) Then she went back home." This Holy Figure in the Bible is a pervert!. So what happened to "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death. (From the NIV Bible, Leviticus 20:10)"???? The woman was not only another man's wife, but also the wife of his neighbor! Double deadly crimes had been committed by the King against GOD Almighty! How come Leviticus 20:10 was compromised in the Bible and never applied to King David?! Didn't King David know about this law? Yet, the Jews use his star as their holy symbol; the David Star, and the Christians call Jesus his son; "Son of David". It seems to me quite clearly that the Bible is nothing but a compromised corrupted Book as Jeremiah 8:8, 2 Samuel 11:2-4 and Leviticus 20:10 above suggest. If the strong eats the weak in the Bible, then what moral and wisdom are we to learn from this book? Further more.... GOD supposedly inspired King David's men to get some heat for King David by having a beautiful virgin minister unto him. Let us look at 1King1:1-4 "When King David was old and well advanced in years, he could not keep warm even when they put covers over him. So his servants said to him, 'Let us look for a young virgin to attend the king and take care of him. She can lie beside him so that our lord the king may keep warm.' Then they searched throughout Israel for a beautiful girl and found Abishag, a Shunammite, and brought her to the king. The girl was very beautiful; she took care of the king and waited on him, but the king had no intimate relations with her." Is the Bible a porn-full man made book? or is it an inspired Divine Book from GOD Almighty? Did GOD Almighty inspire David's men to bring him a young virgin so he can sleep with her without marriage? What kind of morals are we teaching our kids here? Let us look at Esther 2:2-4 "Then the king's personal attendants proposed, 'Let a search be made for beautiful young virgins for the king. Let the king appoint commissioners in every province of his realm to bring all these beautiful girls into the harem at the citadel of Susa. Let them be placed under the care of Hegai, the king's eunuch, who is in charge of the women; and let beauty treatments be given to them. Then let the girl who pleases the king be queen instead of Vashti.' This advice appealed to the king, and he followed it." So what we call today illegal prostitution and sex according to the "laws of the Bible" is actually allowed in the Bible? Here we see that GOD Almighty in His Divine Book, the "Holy Bible", inspired the King and his men to bring young bosomed virgins to sleep with the King, and the best one of them would replace Vashti.
Old testament again. Anything in the New Testament? Though not even porn verses and it doesn't tell about porn in heaven unlike your book you don't need to waste your time. You guys are exposed with your terrorist leader mohammad. Allah's Apostle said, "I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror" Remember Moses, considered a friend of God was nor allowed to enter the promised land even he led his people out of egypt. - Hence your fate -
brother Kalvin If you are educated and intelligent then you will read and understand this topic and will never tell this again. Was Muhammad a pedophile? The discussion of Muhammad's marriage to Aisha has recently come up on a muslim message board, with the usual cries of 'Muhammad was a pedophile' coming from the usual anti-Islam lobby. kay, lets have a look at the psyche of a typical pedophile, and see how much of it fits Muhammad shall we? Quoted text is taken from Understanding the Pedophile Psyche, courtesy of the Police Federation of England & Wales: http://www.polfed.org/magazine/08_2001/80_2001_paedophile.htm "Low self esteem. Many pedophiles, although by no means all, do not have a great sense of capacity for adopting a sexual demeanor towards adults or those of their own age or older. They feel unhappy and fearful at the prospect of sexual behaviour with adults and hence turn to children due to the fact that they are unable to have the strength of personality to seek adults for sexual demeanor. When considering treatment therefore it is important to establish and develop a higher sense of self-esteem in such individuals." As well as being married to Aisha, he was also married to many other women during his life. He wasn't certainly suffering from low self-esteem. Therefore, this does not apply to Muhammad. "Lack of impulse control. Many pedophiles find it extremely difficult to deal with the impulsive nature which inclines them towards sexual behaviour to children. They simply cannot control their need for engaging children in sexual practices. They might be said to suffer from an obsessive-compulsive condition. Here again treatment would involve developing better impulse control and of course redirecting the sexual inclinations." As has been mentioned before, Muhammad waited for at least two years before consummating the marriage. Therefore, this point of 'lack of self control' does not apply to Muhammad. Also, fasting during Ramadan requires abstention from sexual relations. Why would Muhammad practise this if he had no self-control? "Denial. Many pedophiles deny there is anything wrong with having sexual relations with children and many will in due course paradoxically deny having carried out such practices should they be confronted. It is vital to change the attitudes of such individuals much as in the lack of empathy with their victim." Muhammad never once denied having sex with his wife. Also note the use of the term 'victim'. Aisha could not be described as a victim. Therefore, this does not apply to Muhammad. "History of previous pedophile activity. Many pedophiles have carried out minor or major acts of pedophile behaviour in the past and this has led to habit as well as the obsessive-compulsive nature of the act towards children. It is vital here to promote alternative habits i.e. in attitudes and demeanor of sexual behaviour with adults." Muhammad has no history of pedophile activity whatsoever. Also, as I pointed out, all of Muhammad's other wives were adult, and there is no evidence of him being obsessed with children. Therefore, this doesn't apply to Muhammad. "Poor family relationships - many pedophiles have come from families that are in chaos or are lacking in stability. This has led them to view sexual behaviour with children rather than adults as acceptable especially if this has been practised upon them by a member of the family in the past. Although it is difficult to reverse what has happened in the past through discussion or attitude changes it is vital that insight must be gained by the individual into how his/her pedophile activity originated and was developed through the family dynamics." Although he was orphaned at a young age, Muhammad was always very close to all his family members, and advocated that whosoever cuts the bond of kith and kin, he/she would be denied paradise. Therefore, this does not apply to Muhammad. "Low IQ - there are pedophiles who have low intelligence but by no means all are in this category. Where this is the case appropriate therapeutic efforts must be made to develop understanding of what they are doing wrong and what they must do to change." Despite being illiterate, Muhammad had a reputation for being a very bright young boy, an excellent trader, and an extremely wise man. Therefore, this point does not apply to Muhammad. "Loneliness, depression and relationship needs - this particular trait is associated with low self-esteem and lack of empathy with the victim. Many pedophiles are lonely individuals who live on their own and have found it difficult to establish relationships with adults, especially for sexual purposes. Some suffer from psychological problems and even psychotic illnesses. Here intensive treatment and monitoring is in order." Muhammad wasn't suffering from depression when he married Aisha. Also, low self-esteem, loneliness, and difficulty to establish relations could not be attributed to Muhammad. "Having been themselves sexually abused - many pedophiles have themselves been sexually abused in the past by adults. They merely imitate what they experienced and continue their activity considering it as appropriate since it was done to them." This certainly isn't true. I have demonstrated that, despite the fact Muhammad married a nine-year old girl, he could NOT be considered a pedophile. If brother kelvin God has given you brain then you will think and agree that our Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) was not pedophile.
In connection with epilepsia, the symptoms have shown so, it well happens as your pedophile mohammad acted out.
I don't argue the "legality" of it. I do not know what, if any, "laws" existed to prevent men old enough to be the great grandfathers of little girls, from marrying them. mohammed seemed to make up his own laws, to benefit himself, as he went along. Like the law of taking a step-son's wife. Quite convenient, if you ask me. I do not argue she was married at age 9, that would be factually incorrect. She was married at age 6. Consumated at age 9. In your culture/part of the world, a nine year old girl might be desirable by men in their 50s, but where I come from, men prefer "women" with grass on the field and breasts. To each their own, I suppose, no matter how sickening it is. The amount of text you provide simply does not change the fact he married a six year old girl in his 50s. There simply is no justification for that.
even after knowing the truth you will never accept it . Thats the problem with you. when you cant find faults then you will try to speak rubbish without knowing what you are speaking. What do you mean by old testament again.It means you agree that it all is written in old testament. Is not the old testament part of Bible..ha ha ha.I wonder how you guys give old testament to children below 18 years of age.It should be written on its front cover..only for 18 years above. Anything in the new testament? yes there are and I will post lots of contradictions, scientific and factual errors about todays Bible soon and I challenge you that none of you can prove me wrong. I challenge you Arnie that you can never prove our true religion wrong.Whatever you tell I will give you valid reasons with enough proofs.So far I posted about : Prophet Muhammad's(PBUH) marriage with Aisha was valid and according to norms of society that time. Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) was not a pedophile -Rated Pornography in the Bible and Present day Bible is not the holy Bible of prophet Jesus(PBUH) . Brother Arnie and SunLove I have no hatred for anyone or any religion in this world like you have. I respect Jesus(PBUH) and his holy book Bible which was very sacred and pure book without any porn stuff or errors but present day Bible is changed by many people they way they wanted. It is easily visible in song of the songs.
OK, Lets talk about the deeds of Jesus and Muhammad. Since a tree is loved by the fruits it gives. (I did post some of the deeds of Jesus and so far not even one muslim presented anything similar from Muhammad.) Again lets discuss the DEEDS OF JESUS AND MUHAMMAD so we can know the Divine truth about them. Here is the link the shows some of the many great deeds performed by Jesus. http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=130185&page=7&highlight=sunlove (About the Bible's mistakes or whatever one can find inapproriate, it depends how much wisdom one has to read between the lines. 70% fake is way over the line. About the different versions of the Bible, enyone can write his own. And there will be no death sentence issued. The one who has wisdom can see what is true and what is not.) sunlove
wow, did you just find that or did you actually read that in the bible and come up with the variations that you did? Talk about versions, this is how you incorrectly translate the bible.... lol turning a naval into something else that isn't... trying to take a love poem and twisting it to sound like it was perverse? If you are going to try to take apart the bible, you best read it before you just repost what someone told you, because it shows foolishness at best.