as i have stated this wouldn't explain all pages being made supplemental, plus my other site with meta data similar is doing pretty good. Yes Google should recognise if there is meta spam, however it doesnt seem to ... so if it works in one why not the other?
Thanks Hans, I had not heard that before.... it certainly seems like google would have recovered that data or somehow fixed things since then. But who knows with google anymore. Anyone else heard of this and/or have additional information?
because G is ONLY about money and G most likely makes millions / yr on amazon but only thousands from your or my site / yr
...and because it's obvious to everyone, easily and very documentable, when a search engine can't even find amazon. If the amazon absence was prolonged, even major media would be talking about google being broken. For our smaller sites, it's not as noticible. It can be blamed on other things like "they have a link page" or other silly nonsense. Like that matters if the user is looking for the information that site provides.
' What???? Darn I cannot believe this ....Google makes all their money via Amazon That is utterly amazing I would have thought it was from selling millions of dollars in advertising.... Amazon.... where did you come up with that???????
It does matter when the site is nothing but a bunch of useless links to other sites.. That is NOT providing the user relevant information. Also just because they say it is due to a links page, does not mean that is the only / sole reason What they usually dont tell you is the site with the links page... was probably involved in a link scheme of some sort. Google only tells us half or less of what they think we should know. This is done so that people will not be able to reverse engineer the algorithim and use it to spam Google.... It is called misinformation and used very methodically to keep others guessing.... Peace
Is it common for google to put new sites mostly in their supplemental results and than eventaully put them in the regular index? I originally had about 20 pages indexed (about 10%) of my site, but than i had my whole site indexed at the end of July buit all supplemental except for my home page and a few main category pages. Do you think this is related to the google screw up or do u think it is just normal behavior becuase my site was new?
Anyone here seeing any movement since dropping Aug. 17th? I'm still keeping my finger crossed that we get another update that fixes the problems that started June 27th.
I've seen not significant changes since August 17th other than the fact that my highest PR page that used to be on Page 1 for it's key search phrases until the July 27th update when it slipped to around Page 6 is now nowhere to be found.
as of today G still only has some 25% or so of all my pages indexed - there is still some progress and every few days some more keywords RE-appear in the top 10 SERPS as before. the amazing point however is that even with only a tiny part fully re-indexed, I have as per last DP keyword tracker output already some 89 #1 SERPS and additional 140+ #2-10 SERPS for major keywords resulting in about 15% more overall traffic than before June 27th despite the fact that many of the most important and well serps'd pages still are missing in G index. Google sitemap submission has FAILED to produce ANY result at all !! I even have the feeling that G sitemap submission rather results in an EXclusion that inclusion of new or missing pages. a last attempt to submit a partial sitemap from an entire folder mostly missing n G index several days ago resulted in ZERO improvement again - hence i have again deleted ALL my G sitemaps as before. as discussed in another thread in DP forum SOME have made the same experience of sitemaps being exclusion list rather than inclusion list - the resubmission merely was an attempt to help G getting all missing URLs/pages into index again. NEWLY published pages anywhere on my site are immediately and correctly indexed / serps'd within 3 or so days. the progress is slower than ever before - the difference in TOTAL number or pages in my domain still varies from extremely wrong 155'000 pages to some 7,860 pages - close to the truth - and there seems to be NO synchronization between the data-centers during the past 2+ months. it still looks to me that some of the db data-fields are messed up or filled with incorrect data and G tries to fix nothing at all but hoping that the errors one day just miraculously drop out of their db. to me it simply looks like a hackers result .... and G has no real solution for it until now. direct communication with Google via proper online form in this matter is as usual ONE way with no results / reply so far. I strongly belief that G simply is far too f.. proud to EVER admit any kind of error, human error or even hackers intrusion since such statement might most likely plunge the G stock price down to hell and destroy the blind trust some have in G's power ... Since i have personally witnessed the server down message i G adsense server for about 3 or so hours just preceding the loss of all SERPS - NO smart maintenance ever would cause such downtime - in addition many more people/sites are hit by that "accident" and some kind of public statement might have been appropriate - my opinion.
I'm still of the frame of mind that even if it is fixed, it was a penalty that was applied, and we are all going to have to wait it out, till those penalties expire.
where is the common sense in penalty ? why would Google shut down for several hours one of its main data servers to penalize some web publishers ?? btw Google has lost during the past weeks his Nr 2 alexa rank to MSN - so if anyone got penalized then it was self-penalty
I can't understand how this all could be a penalty when most of us came back to normal on July 27th for two weeks.
I am of the belief Google does how and what it wants irregardless of others thoughts.... and they purposefully have no rhyme or reason to their methods in order to keep others from reverse engineering their algorithims.. It also seems that unnatural manipulations are met with resistance and a bit of baiting perhaps by adding in the time delay....propping a site up top for a day or two then dropping it like the P.O.C. that they usually are... Perhaps Googles little smug smirk glow of satisfaction of building a spammers hopes and then pulling the rug out from under them... turn about is fair play after all
This would be fine if it only affected spammers. The problem is it is also hurting legitimate websites. If Google is doing what you are saying it is irresponsible and a violation of the trust the public puts in Google.
I'm by no means a spammer! My site is legit and has had good rates with all the major search engines for many years.
I am a bit confused... You can defend yourself your property in most ways you see fit.....but Google cannot defend itself against say... people who buy links in hope of influencing the rankings?? or people who post projects to have others build them 100s of links?? These aren't spammers by definition I guess I dont know everyone has different opioions but its still circumventing their system. or to deter outright malicious code attacks??? hackings of their adsense adwords frugal brands??? So to not allow others to re engineer their IP is wrong ??? However if some thief broke in thier data center and stole the server housing your front page rankings you would want them to solve that crime correct?? Next ....its a free service they provide..... nobody pays a cent to Google to be listed on their organic search results.... so what gives anyone the right to complain??? Better yet Google should let all hell break loose let the cheaters win and then when you cannot beat the cheaters moan and complain about that.... Wait.... that did not work either....... and then let me ask you this. How is it a site like this www.securityandsafetysupply.com/ for the term 'police products' [SIZE=-1]can stay in position # 1 # 2 or # 3 and nothing less... day to day week to week month to month For over three years straight??? Just how is that possible?? I wonder Peace [/SIZE]