I see a lot of OPs not returning to their threads lately; in particular when it's clear they're severely outnumbered.
Yeah I know it should be hyper linked I'am talking about the child which will born after living to gather i know by living to gather child doesn't born but there are many human beings which cannot have control on their selves and may have sex with the lady there are precaution which can be taken. Also, not everyone, even married people, want kids. If parents doesn't want a kid its different thing it depends on their thinking.
Every Religion has something as a moral no religion is immoral and the earth will be destroyed if all humans starts devoting to religion give some logical reason....
Jackob - what I meant when I said not everyone wants kids is that some people CHOOSE not to have children. Your English is just too hard to understand. You should answer Revelation_Decoder's question now. He isn't married to his longer term partner, do you think that some how makes him a bad dad to his child? From what I know he, and his partner, are both fantastic parents. Answer the question.
ohk i can understand what you want to say about not to have children. About Revelation_Decoder's question I would like to say that see not all humans beings are same there are some good people also in this world who takes care of their child even they are not married, but the ratio that this type of people is less. And if he isn't longer term partner and still he takes care of his child than why not he is getting married. This relation will last until both of them are having good relation once they are not having good relations they will get separated and then what will happen to their child ????? What I am thinking is long term.
But why do you assume that the ratio is less? Married parents are not automatically better; this is a lie. Why does it matter if he doesn't get married? He isn't religious, the only reason for him to get married would be a tax/legal one, and perhaps in the UK that isn't needed. They are no more likely to split up long term than a married couple! What the hell is wrong with you? The two best couples I know aren't married, both have been together for over 40 years - very uncommon as 40 years ago marriage was more common, but one couple is gay and so have been unable to wed. I also see lots of marriages fail. What on earth makes you think marriage is better? It's a piece of paper.
I am not assuming its true the ratio is less i have made survey for this. Why does it matter if he doesn't get married? He isn't religious, the only reason for him to get married would be a tax/legal one, and perhaps in the UK that isn't needed. For your this sentence i would like to say that you are pointing out only UK where as I am talking about whole world. In live in relationship there is no guarantee of long term relationship where as in marriage there is a little guarantee don't see the half empty glass of water see half full glass of water.
You "have made survey for this"? Alright, let's see it then. Show it to us. I'm only pointing out the UK because that is where Rev is from, and that may be a reason to get married - legal reasons or tax reasons. Where I come from you need to be married to your partner in order to have certain rights; for example if one of us is in hospital for the other to be allowed to stay outside of visiting hours we must be married, etc. In the world, the free world that is - there is no more guarantee in a marriage being life long than a committed live in relationship - unless you are religious in which case you must get married because otherwise you are afraid your god will punish you. A truly loving relationship does not need a piece of paper to make it valid. That said, I'm in support of marriage - but I'm also in support of those who don't wish to be married and don't need to to prove their love and commitment. It is just a piece of paper, but it's a piece of paper that some people feel they need. Personally I'll get married for legal reasons and to have a nice ceremony where we can celebrate our love with our families. There is NO guarantee with either form of relationship, unless you live in an area ruled by Sharia law and will be executed for leaving your partner.
I told you that we are not pointing only a particular region we are talking about as a whole. And as you said that you are getting married just for legal reasons or tax reasons which is only applicable in a particular country its not applicable in whole world. And as you said there is no guarantee in a marriage than I would like to say if you think that your partner will leave you and than it will result into same only leave with loyalty love your partner than your partner will also respond you same way. Its not only leaving together without marriage than only you can have trust on each other. 'm in support of marriage - but I'm also in support of those who don't wish to be married and don't need to to prove their love and commitment. As you said that you are in support of those who don't want to get married and to prove their love and commitment its absolutely false. this is only one sided thinking. I think in your country you get married by signing a piece of paper, but you have not seen the other side if you want a divorce than you have to give reason why you want it. If the reason is logical than only its possible for this you might consult a lawyer. For a general public its a piece of paper but according to law its not piece of paper.
It is actually applicable in most of the world; what I am saying to you is that there is no reason two people NEED to get married besides places where it effects tax/rights. In the WORLD as whole, which is what you are discussing - unless what I said above is the case then no one needs to get married. If they want to then for sure, they can but it doesn't effect their relationship. Married people are no happier and no more in love than unmarried people who live together. Living together with AND without marriage you can only have trust in each other! Marriage does NOT change a persons feelings or the relationship when two people are already living together. End of story. Absolute bullshit. I am in support of people who do and who don't want to be married, if you claim that's a lie you can go fuck yourself - I wont talk to someone who wont respond to logic. It is possible to support BOTH sides of something; I believe in love. I believe two people who are in love should be together. I believe marriage does NOT define a couple. Everywhere you get married you have to sign a piece of paper, that is how it works - it is called a marriage license. Please look it up now. It you want a divorce you don't need a good reason, you can just be out of love or whatever - it is no different to living together except that a divorce takes longer and is more expensive. Name 3 things better about being married than not, based on FACT. Tell me three reasons people must get married rather than living together. You may not use religion (I'm not religion), or use lies such as married people have more security - they actually have less, because if they split they lose half their shit. (Both people.)
You are taking wrong meaning of getting married, according to you getting married just for the sake of fulfilling each other needs or its a compromise or adjustment, where as marriage is getting attached from soul and as well as physically also with care and emotions. I know you will tell that without marriage also its possible but marriage the perfect relation of getting attached which is pure also those who say its not a pure relation than they are lacking in knowledge and should try to know what is a marriage. I think those who don't agree should try to know from a knowledgeable person and clear the picture.
I like the idea of marriage - I do - I think it's great. But I also hate the fact people like you think it is somehow better or more important than not being married; love is love. People like you don't value true love for what it is. >.<'
Hey i know the value of love but the way of loving is not right love can be done to only 1 person and not to many persons in live in relationship you may get love with another person where as in marriage there is less possibility if both person will stay with each other by getting married they will care more for each other and by this way their love between them will also be increased.
That isn't true at all - people who live together are no more likely to love someone else than married people! Also, people don't care for each other more just because they get married; that is why there is so much divorce - all these idiots think getting married makes things better, it doesn't.
In this relationship those two often lose site for anything but themselves and abandon responsibilities that in reality are greater than their immediate needs including their children - as you said the world, that people who do not join with paper are less likely to give up.
Why are you seeing only negative side why don't you see that by caring more the person will become dependent so the person who loves him want his/her partner be independent. By getting married there is a bonding between each other and when there is bad time than the partner will always try not to let the partner loose the situation. Where as in live in relation ship the partner will 100% leave the partner which doesn't happen in marriage and which you have also not seen.
yeah absolutely male and female partners both plays important role and for your kind information by only feeding it doesn't mean you love your youngone.