3 Weeks Old Site-How Long to Wait Before Adding Links?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by ivyUprep, Mar 25, 2010.

  1. #1
    Hello,

    I am relatively new to SEO stuff and have recently launched a site that is about 3 weeks old. In order to not be banned by google, how long should I wait before doing major link building. After the website was a week and 1/2 old, I added 10 edu links. But these links still have not shown up via google when I did the link:www.website.com

    Thanks in advance for your advice!

    Mike
     
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  2. kenshiro

    kenshiro Greenhorn

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    Hi ivyUprep

    welcome to the forum ! I'm new too ;)

    As far as I know, you don't have to wait, just GO for it and build new links without wondering too much.
    If by not to be "banned by google" you mean avoiding the so-called google sandbox, I'm sorry but there's nothing you can do about it, if your site falls into it you just have to wait for some months, and apparently, it looks like having backlinks helps... consider also that not necessarily you will be "sandboxed" (btw, there's a sub-forum about gg sandbox)
    Hope it helps !
     
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  3. Bigbee

    Bigbee Peon

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    Yeah, Just start building links now! And they will show up, just give it time, google has a lot of crap to sift through!
     
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    COBSolutions Well-Known Member

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    Start slowly but steadily, SEO is not just one effort game or one method game, it is a combination of various factors, on page, off page etc
    Linkbuilding is just one factor and .edu links are just one factor out of thousand ways to build links, try out new methods, think over it and do some unique methods, move away from traditional link building methods, they are good to start with, but try new stuff
     
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  5. ivyUprep

    ivyUprep Peon

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    Thank you very much kenshiro, Bigbee, and cashisfilthitakecheck!

    But if I build links too quickly like 150 backlinks within 2 months of staring my site, will that increase my chances that I will get "banned permanently by google"?

    Thanks,

    Mike
     
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  6. Sxperm

    Sxperm Notable Member

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    You have to keep it steady as cashisfilthitakecheck said. The high spike of incoming links in a short period means a red flag. It may have some exception for authoritative site such as cnn.com or popular social bookmark site such as Digg.com. If you have done 150 incoming links for 2 months period, 75 each month divided. You may increase to 80-200 monthly but you should not build a huge spike like 5,000 links. That is easily identical as unnatural link building pattern for a new site like yours.

    It is also hard to say if this may get your site banned, it is depend on the quality of links you gathered too and not just a numbers. If you have got 2,000 links from unknown free directories then it would be worthless compared to just one link from authoritative directory like business.com.

    How the autothoritative site / directory should be? How Google define it? Well..Most of the authoritative site / directory never get all links to be published easily. All of them need to be moderate for its quality first before go live. They may not publish your site if it is a garbage one, even you paid them. They do not care about money but do care about retain their standard. This is a main reason why Ezinearticles.com is the most authoritative status among all article directories. :) Try submit article with them and you will know how heavily moderate they are before your aticles gone live.
     
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  7. asghar.paracha

    asghar.paracha Well-Known Member

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    biuld strong back links not just back links, which will help you in future. dont wait and start link building strategy
     
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  8. ryan353

    ryan353 Peon

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    no time like the present.... sometimes it will take Google a month or more to find your links... just start building...
     
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  9. pmaro

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    start writing unique content and submitting to article directories to get backlinks quickly then start building a long term SEO startegy
     
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  10. brother_of_devil

    brother_of_devil Peon

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    That is not necessarily true. What if a site creates a real buzz around itself? It will get tons of links in a relatively short amount of time. I don't think the link mass gain speed is the only factor. I would say it is some combination of three: 1) the number of links per time (the speed), 2) the quality of links (PR etc), 3) the relation score (how much they are related to your theme).

    And even considering all three factors, the tasks still doesn't look obvious. I can imagine 10 examples of spam where these technique won't work. I can also imagine 10 exmaples of fully legitimate websites what would be penalized du to these rules. The issue is more complex than it seems. I wouldn't be surprised if Google checked the source sites too (the age, the trust rank, the links pointing to them etc) and considered 100+ other factors as well.
     
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  11. psharma

    psharma Prominent Member

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    You don't have to wait before building links. Just keep your link building natural. Use different Anchor texts, use different urls of your website, use a variety of back-linking methods, including social bookmarks( temporary but strong effect ), directories, classifieds, articles, commenting.
     
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  12. asphalt

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    Google would ban your site even if you have a new domain and get to tons of backlinks in a short period of time, it may sandbox you if you got tons of backlinks and got rankings for some keywords. ANd you can start you link building right away, just be sure not to automate the process using blackhat or software etc.
     
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    the_tool Peon

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    Dude your on the right track, just start your site and start you link building campaigns. Don't worry about being red flagged unless your going for some black hat seo techniques. A good way to start building quality dofollow backlinks would to grab a list and get going. Good place for dofollow sites is backlinkforums.com - Also give google some time to run through your site. It's not instant ;) you can always manually submit your site, but make sure its complete. Just like when submitting to a directory such as DMOZ. Good Luck bro!
     
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  14. sherrylinx

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    Have you indexed your site yet with Google and other major search engines? If not definitely do that first.

    If you are building backlinks and your site is new, start off slow, building several a week and increasing the number more and more each time. As long as it looks nature Google will not penalize you.

    Also it may take a couple of week before those backlinks start to show up when you do the link:www.yoursite.com. Google search bots only update every few weeks, so they will eventually show up. You may also want to try, site:www.yoursite.com. Hope that helps and good luck!
     
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  15. SearchFreak

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    You can start link building right now, three weeks is plenty long enough. Just do not throw too many links at your site at once, build them slowly for the first couple of weeks so they look natural. You can build about 50 links a week without raising any flags. Once you have about 500 links built up you can increase the amount of links you are building each week. To start with try to find single page links, also remember google may take several days to pick up new links meaning if you get 50 links in one day google will not see all of those 50 links that day the links will be picked indexed over time.
     
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    start building building backlinks for for your site
     
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    I've read that, for new sites, you start off by advertising them in social bookmarking, social news, directories, press releases- even forum signatures or articles. Then once you've done this, it might be "natural" for other sites or blogs to start linking to yours.

    I think - imo - the key is to get a mix of links (forums, articles, directories etc) with a mix of anchor text and the odd nofollow thrown in.
     
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  18. Link Juice

    Link Juice Peon

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    There are several rules that i have set myself, assumptions and experience that tells me:

    1- That building relevent links from the off, sites that rank themselves and have other external links to sites that also rank will bring you a positivfe "vote" no matter how many you build, obviously you dont want to add several thousand in one go but any normal person working fulltime could perhaps hit a hundred or two per month.

    2- Directories are not worth chasing

    3- NON country specific blogs cause bounces in SERP's, if your site is .co.uk look for UK hosted sites for example

    4- Vary your backlink profiles - Blogposts, text links, contextual links, banners articles - These are all signs of a legitimate site advertising

    5- Vary your anchor text - If your are building 100-200 per month add some variance, the percentage of which is your choice (use anchors like "click here" and "domain.com")
     
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